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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 04:07:52 PM »
Hillary Clinton says Tulsi Gabbard is a 'Russian asset' groomed to ensure Trump reelection


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-says-tulsi-gabbard-is-a-russian-asset-groomed-to-ensure-trump-re-election

Poor HRC still cannot accept her defeat in the 2016 election.

You cannot accept the fact you know shit.

Definitely the take-away from 2016 is that we should ignore Hillary Clinton when she warns us that someone is a Russian puppet.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 03:39:43 PM »
So, your argument now is "if we can get away with it, then it is okay to do it."

What is Trump getting away with?  He is doing things that IN ADVANCE Democrats say will get him impeached.  If so, let it happen.

All out in the open

LOL!  What the fuck are you talking about? 

If not for a whistleblower, who Trump has threatened and tried to discredit, we would not know what he was doing to get Ukraine to cook up an investigation into the Bidens.  Ukraine would have made the announcement of the investigation (written by Giuliani himself) and the US media would be all over the controversy, with no idea that it was manufactured by Trump and his "personal lawyer", and bought with aid money from the US taxpayer.

I think even a discussion as simple as this is truly too complex for your mind.  The plots of the West Wing may be your speed.  There must be a forum someplace where you can chat about them.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 03:00:41 PM »
There's a place for you in this "Administration".

Whenever you think that Donald Trump can't possibly think his supporters are this ignorant and incurious, kiidcarter8 is there to prove that he is actually right.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 02:02:21 PM »
While we wait on kiidcarter8 some updates from the Turkey/Syria situation:



BBC.COM/NEWS

Thanks.

Still waiting on your evidence that it is common practice for Presidential Administrations to use foreign aid approved by Congress to procure political favors from foreign countries.

I know you have it on hand, just send it on so that we all here can be enlightened.  Thanks!

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 11:24:33 AM »
While we wait on kiidcarter8 some updates from the Turkey/Syria situation:

Turkey may be using chemical weapons against the Kurds.
Turkish forces are attacking Ras al Ain despite the "ceasefire."
They have targetedmedical convoys, inclucing one from an American aid organization trying to evacuate wounded citizens:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/17/turkish-proxies-chemical-weapons-syria-kurds/

Sure am glad the Great Trump made all the dying stop.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 11:01:55 AM »
Republican Rep. Francis Rooney of Florida called Mulvaney's acknowledgment about withholding Ukraine aid "troubling," saying it is "not a good thing" to do that in connection "with threatening foreign leaders."

Rooney would not rule out the prospects of supporting impeaching the President


Wait!  Before you vote on impeachment, hear kiidcarter8 out.  He has some great points to make.  Any time now.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:59:53 AM »
“You don’t hold up foreign aid that we had previously appropriated for a political initiative,” Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican of Alaska and a famously cautious congressional veteran, told reporters on Capitol Hill Thursday afternoon. “Period.”

Wait Senator.  kiidcarter8 is going to get back to us with an example of when that has been done.  We will forward it on to you just as soon as it is received.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:53:47 AM »
The actions Mulvaney described are not normal. 


Usual US business - under many administrations - yes

You say it is normal under many administrations (oh, but not all?) to withhold military aid to an ally in the midst of armed conflict for purely political purposes while keeping Congress and the State Department in the dark on those negotiations?

Well, surely you wouldn't say that if you didn't have an example in mind, so give me one.

While we wait for your response, you may find it instructive that Mulvaney tried the argument you are now still somehow defending and it failed spectacularly which is why he has "walked" his statement back to the NO QUID PRO QUO position.  Not arguing that its normal.  Just saying he didn't say what he said.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:24:55 AM »
I'm having a hard time figuring out if the Mick Mulvaney's of the world are that dumb or just plain arrogant ( "get over it," indeed) I suppose it could be both.

Did you hear the entire interview?

Yes or no?
Yes.  And I'm still having a hard time.  I'm pretty confident they're morons though.  Get over it.

You heard/read it, but don't see what Mulvaney was speaking to, given the context

How does normal US action become quid pro quo?

The actions Mulvaney described are not normal.  That Mulvaney claimed they were does not make it so.

Again, you need to use your brain when evaluating the words coming from this Administration instead of taking everything coming out of their mouths as fact.

This would be the case even if they hadn't already proven that they are profligate liars.  But they have.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:09:09 AM »
http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAIWxE8?ocid=sf&fbclid=IwAR0DFtsgB9YIJceofYhAHXJEBvKAPR9PPwniEHBf1VRvonJfFh_Qb1lH0sk

ex-Special Ops commander says the US is under attack by the president.

No doubt Kid will think that needs more analysis.

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Former Adm. William McRaven (Ret.) argued in an op-ed Thursday that President Trump is "destroying" the United States, warning that the future of the country is "in peril" if Trump is not removed from office.

Operation Bone Spurs was a complete success.

Just ask any of the dictators involved in drawing up the plan.

Mattis had a few great lines at the Al Smith last night - including one about "spurs".

Mattis' performance here is shameful.  Former generals and defense officials are out right now trying to warn the US (the world) of the real dangers Trump posses to our security and Mattis is out doing stand-up.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:07:56 AM »
I'm having a hard time figuring out if the Mick Mulvaney's of the world are that dumb or just plain arrogant ( "get over it," indeed) I suppose it could be both.

Did you hear the entire interview?

Yes or no?

White House has released the full transcript.  Read it.  Mulvaney confirmed Quid Pro Quo.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 10:07:00 AM »
And of course, ceding all the territory that Turkey asked for to them while canceling any economic sanctions and unilaterally disarming the Kurds would not at all set up an environment that would lead to more deaths.


More deaths than what?

More deaths than had Trump kept US troops on the ground in northern Syria as everyone Republican, Democrat, Defense Dept, etc, told him to.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 09:54:20 AM »
A member of the Syrian Kurdish force ruled out any pull-back from border towns, calling the U.S. deal with Turkey an “insult” and saying “no way this will work.”


Of course many of the Kurd forces want to fight -

and thus the "ceasefire" will see  some sad exceptions ("some not getting the word, others refusing to comply" - from CNN this morning)

Let it play out before awarding any praise/blame

Trump isn't in a position to give Kurdish land to Turkey and tell them to disarm.  The "deal" was absurd on its face.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 18, 2019, 09:52:36 AM »
Off the wires (AP)...

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Asked about a withdrawal, a force spokesman, Mervan, said “so far there is nothing,” pointing to the continuing siege of Ras al-Ayn. “It seems that under this deal they want to commit more massacres,” he said. He uses a nom de guerre in accordance with the group’s regulations.

A member of the Syrian Kurdish force ruled out any pull-back from border towns, calling the U.S. deal with Turkey an “insult” and saying “no way this will work.”

“They think we will just leave our land and our people to Turks if we are asked,” he said. “They can come and take the land by force. Nobody should expect us to leave our land.”

“How does the U.S. think to enforce a deal without presence on the ground?” he added, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters....

Trump framed the U.S. cease-fire deal with Turkey as “a great day for civilization,” but it aims to patch up a foreign policy crisis widely seen to be of his own making.     

Civilization, last I checked, doesn't involve driving people from their homes.

I thought you were concerned that they would be dying.  Now that they are not......

spin it another way.

Now that they are not...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fighting-continues-turkey-syria-border-despite-u-s-led-cease-n1068516

And of course, ceding all the territory that Turkey asked for to them while canceling any economic sanctions and unilaterally disarming the Kurds would not at all set up an environment that would lead to more deaths.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: October 17, 2019, 04:15:08 PM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50091305

Turkey to suspend Syria offensive


https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-10-17-2019/index.html

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Turkey confirms suspension of Syria offensive
Mevlut Cavusoglu, Turkey's foreign minister, confirmed that Ankara agreed to temporarily halt its offensive in northeast Syria to allow Kurdish fighters to withdraw from the region.

"The US side has accepted the necessity of a safe zone to protect Turkey's security interests. And we have reached a full agreement for the Turkish army to control this zone," he told a news conference in Ankara.

"This is not a ceasefire, a ceasefire can only be made only between two legitimate sides," he said, adding that withdrawing Kurdish fighters will return their heavy weapons and destroy their fortifications.

This is unilateral disarmament of the Kurds which will leave them vulnerable to Turkey's likely claiming that they were provoked and renewing their offensive.

Just unreal.  Pence agrees to give Turkey all the territory they wanted in a deal that would also require the Kurds to unilaterally disarm, and he has the nerve to crow about negotiating a "ceasefire."

Is it that these guys are just newbs, or do they think Americans are too dumb to follow what is going on?

Trump:  People have been trying to make this "Deal" for many years.

What people?  The Turks?  Putin?  Yeah, maybe.  The US?  No.  The SDF?  Hell no.

And note the "Deal" requires the Kurds to take actions there is next to no chance they will take, but Trump treats it as done and declares victory.

Now we can all move on and forget all about Syria again.  Right?


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