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Basketball / Bonkers
« on: August 14, 2020, 03:14:36 PM »
Lillard just might get Melo another playoff appearance, win or lose, he is f'n ridiculous.....

That pull up jumper from Jerry West Territory was magical. 

I'll bet when Damian launched that ICBM, even Trae Young said, "Oh, come on now, dude." 

Ironic, that if Jerry West's infamous last second Uber-Clutch heave from mid court had come during the trey magnifique post-ABA Epoch, the Knicks probably would not have prevailed against the Lakers, as this trey would have iced our heroes, instead of simply sending up into overtime.   

I was in the common area TV Room of a college dorm when Mister Clutch hit that shot, and I mean, people just went bonkers. 

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Basketball / Embrace The Payne
« on: August 11, 2020, 05:35:33 PM »
Interesting hire for Thibs & Rose. 

Obviously, or not so obviously, Payne mentored both Randle and Knox at Kentucky. 

My projection is that the Knicks are invested, least ways, over the next season, in giving both Julius and Kevin a long, long look. 

I understand the reservations on both, but think there is too much talent to simply bail and reboot.

The Knicks need to develop some patience with their pups.  From Rod Strickland and Trevor Ariza, through _______ & _______, the Knicks, like Steinbrenner's Yankees, too often gave up on young talent. 

Such as the received wisdom (read Dipshit Berman) as to Knox's weak motor and Randle's point forward obsession. 

COACHING.  COACHING.  COACHING.

What direction did Fizdale offer.  Besides weaponizing Randle's weaknesses?  Julius clearly forced the issue far too often, but the notion of him as a point forward facilitating the offense always seemed dubious.  And as someone has pointed out, Knox was progressing in his decision making and aggression, defense and shot blocking, in the season's final stanza. 

Imperfect?

Obviously. 

But presently, what are our alternatives in the short term? 

Now Dennis Smith?  When he first got here, showed some serious talent and energy, but regressed badly last season. 

Draft lottery on August 20. 

If we are in a position to grab Ball or Edwards at our draft slots, that will be telling for the likes of RJ & Dot, Ntilikina & Dennis, let alone Randle & Knox. 

Likewise, do Knicks go for best available PG, or best available talent?

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Basketball / Re: Dallas
« on: August 08, 2020, 09:29:27 PM »
Well, Steve Mills' legacy is set in stone, right up their with the trade that sent Nolan Ryan packing in exchange for Jim Fregosi. 

Otherwise, while I was waiting for Bo to say something snarky about Trey Burke, he drained another trey.

Indeed, he and Hardaway are often feast or famine.  True dat.

Trey's post-bubble three point percentage is a mere 41%. 

Apparently his feast is an all you can eat salad bar.

PS: And a damn nice Alley Ooop to KP. 

Yawn. 

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Basketball / Dallas
« on: August 08, 2020, 09:28:42 PM »
Well, Steve Mills' legacy is set in stone, right up their with the trade that sent Nolan Ryan packing in exchange for Jim Fregosi. 

Otherwise, while I was waiting for Bo to say something snarky about Trey Burke, he drained another trey.

Indeed, he and Hardaway are often feast or famine.  True dat.

Trey's post-bubble three point percentage is a mere 41%. 

Apparently his feast is an all you can eat salad bar. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: August 08, 2020, 07:39:16 PM »
Grant had 2 rebounds

heh

Grant over Randle?

HEH

I love it when we agree. 

BoD, you my man, but that might be the most supercilious thing you've ever typed. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks after the trade deadline
« on: August 06, 2020, 06:42:40 PM »
I ran a filter on the last 15 games of the season (after the Morris for Harkless swap)
You can run it yourself here
Our top 3 lineup's with a minimum of 12 minutes used were:

92 minutes of .T. Gibson, .M. Harkless, .E. Payton, .J. Randle, .R. Barrett.     //1.4 net rating
51 minutes of .M. Harkless, .E. Payton, .J. Randle, .M. Robinson, .R. Barrett. // 28.1 net rating
44 minutes of W. Ellington, .B. Portis, .F. Ntilikina, .K. Knox II, .M. Robinson. //-10.0 net rating

The Ntilkina lineup, though negative is far less negative than before
And you can see how Harkless presence is felt.

Interesting

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Basketball / DeAndre
« on: August 06, 2020, 03:48:53 PM »
My lack of enthusiasm for Dedmon notwithstanding?

DeAndre went at #4, right after RJ.  Basically gave the Hawks 12-4-3 a night, and solid D. 

They are NOT SHOPPING HIM. 

The deal you suggest?  There would HAVE TO BE a #1 pick in there, and/or another piece, such as a Bullock or Dotson, or a Brazdeikis or Knox. 

And again, this forum's lack of enthusiasm for Julius, I would be VERY SURPRISED is the Knicks trade Randle. 

Again, it says here that Thibs gets to COACH him. 

Julius shooting threes and being a point forward facilitator? 

Not a good look. 

A post presence who can get you 20-10 and is a willing 3 dime a night passer? 

Seems like there's something to work with there.

C: Robinson, Gibson
PF: Randle, Wooten
SF/PF: Knox, Harkless
SF: Brazdeikis
SF/SG: Barrett. Bullock, Dotson
SG/PG: Ntilikina
PG: Smith, Harper

That's 13.

No LOCK that Harkless or Dotson are back, but would think they are type of defensive players Thibs would like.

Gibson?  Some sort of cut and re-sign. 

Why?

Projecting?  Defense Offense

Robinson-Randle
Wooten-Gibson

Projecting? 

Ellington?

Gone.

Portis...Peyton?

On the bubble.  Like them both, but a numbers game.  Bobby give you offense, often seems lost on D.  Peyton a good rudder, decent defender and penetrator but we end up playing 4 on 5 offensively because his lack of a reliable jumper simply is not tenable in a starter.  Of course we could say pretty much the same things about Dennis, however....

The draft likely determines FA and Trade decisions going forward.  Not exactly a revelation, that, but summer speculations and more trade

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Basketball / Here We Go Again.
« on: August 05, 2020, 08:34:23 PM »
We now need the guy who gets it done when Mitch goes to the bench. That’s still not Kanter.

And Dedman is? 

At 13,333,333 for the next two seasons, because, of course, much better than picking up Bobby Portis's $15,000,000 for one year. 

Spread the floor?

He shot .222 last year. 

Better we should have Kiid spread his legs. 

PS: Why the fuck does Atlanta give us DeAndre?  And who is our PF going forward?  We're giving up on Portis, right?  Who replaces Julius' 19.7 ppg, 9.7 boards and 3.1 assists.  Kenny Wooten?  Nice talent like Mitchell, but on offense? 

PPS: And hey, maybe Thibs has a better plan for using Randle. 

PPPS: Creative trade.  But again, Dedman?  I think not.  Would I do it if we got Hunter?  Yes I might?  But DeAndre seems very much like a Hawks builing block going forward.  Back to the drawing board. 

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Basketball / Re: Enes Kanter
« on: August 04, 2020, 08:18:23 PM »
Giving Brad Stevens good minutes off the bench. 

How?

Offensive rebounding. 

Now there's a surprise.

Jayson Tatum


DAMN

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Basketball / Enes Kanter
« on: August 04, 2020, 07:09:36 PM »
Giving Brad Stevens good minutes off the bench. 

How?

Offensive rebounding. 

Now there's a surprise. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: August 04, 2020, 01:37:01 AM »
Wish we had KZ and Rubio.

He left.

Has there ever been a budding young star, still on a rook contract, who forced his way out?

KZ left because of organizational dysfunction.
Phil thinking that he and his retrograde system was the star of the show.
The crappy way that Melo and Noah were treated.  The coaching carousel.
The antiquated system.  Never got KZ a PG partner.  Etc.

Most teams coddle their star, pay them more than other teams can, keep his trainers and end-of-the-bench friends with the team, etc.
Knix completely and thoroughly blew it.
And then to make matters worse, rushed a trade for useless parts.
Just embarrassing.

Word

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Basketball / Westbrook
« on: August 03, 2020, 05:28:39 PM »
HOU took 91 FG's, 61 of them were 3's.  An NBA record.
I'll try to catch a replay, but this all-3 style of play I usually find rather boring.

Ironic that it was their defense that brought home the bacon. 

Russell Westbrook. 

MAN.

When I was visiting my daughter's family on Charlotte, my son in law took me to the Spectrum to see the Hornets take on the Thunder. 

The Hornets were taking it to the Thunder for three quarters, then Westbrook attained his fifth gear. 

There is an intensity to his game that needs to be experienced live.  The actual SOUND of his feet thundering up the hardwood like a freight train. 

I remember remarking to my son-in-law, that Russell reminded me more of running back Barry Sanders than most point guards. 

He willed Houston back into the game last night, and inspired his team mates to raise up. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: August 03, 2020, 04:28:18 AM »
Burke, THjr, back to Earth. Zingis, not so much.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401224724

Pops just lets loose, cites eliminating racist scumbags like kiid as the only priority.

https://sports.yahoo.com/san-antonio-spurs-gregg-popovich-powerful-statement-racial-justice-marco-belinelli-214139519.html

KP with 30

Luka, 40 points, 18-19 from the FT line, 11 assists. 

Pretty impressive. 

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Basketball / Clippers Trade
« on: August 02, 2020, 12:46:18 AM »
Issuf Sanon, PG
Traded to New York (NYK) from Washington (WAS) as part of a 3-team trade: Los Angeles (LAC) traded Maurice Harkless, 2020 1st round pick, 2021 2nd round pick and 2021 1st round pick to New York (NYK); Los Angeles (LAC) traded Jerome Robinson to Washington (WAS); New York (NYK) traded Marcus Morris to Los Angeles (LAC); Washington (WAS) traded Isaiah Thomas to Los Angeles (LAC)



Looking forward to seeing this guy

Not sure about that 2021 1st Round Pick from the Clippers.  I believe we have the option of flipping #1 picks with the Clippers, which would not appear to be meaningful for us.  The 2021 2nd rounder is what the Clippers got from the Pistons in the Griffin trade.  Pistons in transition, too, so that might have some value. 

Issuf Sanon? 

"Is a high energy combo guard with a nice skillset … He can score in bunches and create for both himself and his teammates, while at the same time can be a very good defender on the ball … He is still a work in progress on both ends of the floor, turnover prone, inconsistent shooter and still learning the point-guard position…nevertheless, he is a guy to keep an eye on, since he has all the necessary tools to become a good NBA player in the future."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=C2ew6bt8qVE&feature=emb_logo

The 20 year old Ukranian is 6'4", has some hops, and is supposed to have a good pick and roll motor.  The highlights in the above reel are interesting. 

I think the Knicks are looking at him for the summer of 2021 at this point. 

In the Post-Leon Rose--World Wide Wes Epoch I think it is worth noting that besides a capologist, some of Rose's earliest and most telling signings were in the way of some new front office people.

"Brock Aller was hired as vice president of basketball and strategic planning, Walt Perrin is the assistant general manager for college scouting and Frank Zanin the assistant general manager for pro scouting." 

Perrin worked many years for the  Utah Jazz, and is the fellow who championed Donovan Mitchell in the draft. 

Having duly noted that, shortly after Perrin & Zanin were hired, the Knicks released Kadeem Allen and signed 5'11" Jared Harper to an offer sheet. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CstLpJCWnrE

His clips are most interesting.  Explosive, terrific motor, and when you see him pulling up from Steph Curry/Trae Young Country and rattling home three pointers, well, considering what we have seen from Elfrid, Dennis and Frank, you can peep the Knicks' thinking. 

Remains to be seen, but had an excellent developmental year in the G League; he was the victim of a numbers crunch at Phoenix, and when he was waived, the Knicks jumped on him.  He led Auburn to a Final Four berth. 

Knicks also signed Theo Pinson after they cut IsoBench; he is 24 years old, 6'5" and was a UNC man, used sparingly in two years with the Nyets.  His stats are kind of grim, save for excellent FT shooting.  Not sure the thinking here.  Insurance in case Dotson walks, who seems to me very much a TT kind of guy. 

Finally, among our G Leaguers, are Brazdeikis and Kenny Wooten, both of whom showed considerable growth and development. 

Then we presently are at #6 and #25 and #38 in the draft.  I am still hoping for Haliburton but it remains to be seen if we draft for position or best available player.  The current NBA, Draft.net has Detroit taking the 6'9" Deni Avdija, the Israeli SF, at #5, us taking Haliburton at #6, and center Wiseman falling to Detroit at #7.  Who knows.  Any of those players would be interesting.  And while we seem to be crowded at SF/SG with Knox and Brazdeikis and RJ (and presumably Bullock, a good defender and sniper with a friendly contract), at PG with Frank, Dennis and Jared Harper, and at Center/PF with Robinson and Randle and Wooten and presumably Gibson, talent is talent, and trading chips are trading chips. 

How Rose proceeds as a Trader Vic should prove telling, vis a vis, youth must be served, or bringing in vets or some combo there of.  TT gets to put in his two cents now.

If we are not all dead or fighting fascists in the street come November, it would be charming to have an NBA season. 

WHO THE FUCK KNOWS ABOUT ANYTHING at this point. 

Stay safe, stay well, everyone. 

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Basketball / Paul George
« on: August 01, 2020, 07:38:29 PM »
Paul George. 

Man on a fucking mission. 

DAMN!

PS: I should like to think that R.J. Barrett is presently wearing his protective mask, and maintaining social distance in TT's rec room and taking copious notes ever as we speak.  This is what a big time two way, five-skill, TO TIER NBA CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER WING looks like, young talent. 

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