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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 04:38:05 AM »
A 26-day-old baby in Pennsylvania tested positive for Covid-19 following an autopsy, Berks County Acting Coroner Jonn Hollenbach told CNN Thursday.

Hollenbach said the baby girl did not necessarily die from Covid-19 and the cause of death remains under investigation. There was no suspicion of foul play and a toxicology screening has been ordered, he said.

We'll keep an eye on the cause of death and hope that it was neither caused by COVID-19 directly or from secondary conditions that would not have resulted in death otherwise.

And with luck, they will be able to tell whether anybody else was infected by her, while they are at it.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 04:27:19 AM »

Dr. Birx is singing Trump's tune no longer.

Dr. Deborah Birx delivered a series of stunning warnings on CNN's "State of the Union" five months into a pandemic that the President once said posed no threat to Americans but has now killed more than 150,000 of them.

"What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread. It's into the rural as equal urban areas," Birx, the White House coronavirus task force coordinator, told CNN's Dana Bash.

Birx even suggested that some Americans in multi-generational families should start wearing masks in their home and assume that they already have the disease. She did not reject a warning by former Federal Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb that there could be 300,000 coronavirus deaths by the end of the year, saying, "Anything is possible."

"To everybody who lives in a rural area, you are not immune or protected from this virus," Birx said. Her comments came after her colleague, Dr. Anthony Fauci, told a House committee on Friday it was "unclear" how long the crisis will last. But the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told Americans to brace for an average of 1,000 deaths a day for the next 30 days.
And while there are some signs that infections have plateaued in sunbelt states in the last week, albeit at high levels, Birx's words suggest new epicenters are looming, a situation hardly consistent with Trump's description of "embers" of infection. The President speaks optimistically about a coming vaccination -- though experts say it could still be months away -- and boasts about advances in therapeutics and of building thousands of ventilators. But the horrible statistics of the pandemic are relentless with 1,000 Americans dying almost every day. And the administration response appears -- as it has from the start -- short of the scale needed to beat back the worst public health crisis in 100 years.

'Assume you are infected'

With a vaccine still lacking, Birx also warned that too many Americans were not taking the virus sufficiently seriously, in another jarring disconnect from the President's messaging.

"Across America right now, people are on the move ... as I traveled around the country, I saw all of America moving. I think it's our job, as public health officials, to be able to get a message to each American that says, if you have chosen to go on vacation into a hot spot, you really need to come back and protect those with comorbidities and assume you're infected."

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 02:01:28 AM »
And people like Kid and Ward? They don't care for you at all, either.

Stupidly enough, the only people who are every going to look out for you are the folks like Larry or me or the other bleeding hearts around here. We may despise you for your bigotry and your inability to think your way out of a wet paper bag, while you are used by the folks on the right, but if you need saving and we can do it, we will.

They will carefully step over or around your body, or on it if it's more convenient, or kick it if you annoyed them, then move on.

And we would do that, despite knowing that you are just as fucking selfish as Trump, Kid, or Ward seem to be. Because it is the right thing to do.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 01:57:40 AM »
BLEXIT is a beacon that will show African Americans young and old the right path to freedom. Freedom from all the things wrong with their lives today.

KLEXIT could be the same ..freeing White people from the grip of the KKK.
A choice for better.

BLEXIT is an old song, Bambi, sung by the Klan and its allies. It's not new. The Blacks pushing for it are being used by the same white supremacists behind most of the far right's agenda, being taken advantage of far more than even the left does of others.

The right wing talks about how terrible the left wing is to Blacks and other minorities, but whenever policy time comes, the policy behind the right wing's actions disenfrancises and kills Blacks.

Note that there is no "Klexit" being discussed. There is no move among the right wing advocates for Blexit for any reform of the GOP or its policies toward American or world CoP. If they had their way, your country would be even more the sacrificial stalking horse you think it is. They feel about you the way you feel about everybody else: them first and anything they can do to further that goal is good.

And whenever your officials talk about looking out for yourselves, you paint a target on your country for them. Because they are not, in truth, white supremacists. They are "us" supremacists, looking out for themselves first and foremost. Not the white people. Not the United States of America. Looking out for what makes them and theirs stronger and safer.

Just like you preach. And you could worship at their feet, Bambi, or you could swear at them profusely. It won't matter to them - you are not a person to them, either. You're cannon fodder. Higher grade cannon fodder? Maybe. Maybe not. It won't matter. Fodder is fodder.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 01:00:10 AM »
BLEXIT... freeing Black people from the grip of the left/far left.

Now Black people in America have a choice ...other than BLM and all that goes with it.

A choice... the party that is an existential threat to our existence or the party that has tried in fits and starts to do the right thing over the last 50 odd years?

Damn, that’s a head scratcher for sure. Tell you what though, for a ‘stipend’ and intellectual property rights, what would you like me to say?


Candace Owens and Blexit are the future.
Candace burning down America for them. No rioting in the streets.
They'll be making change happen the right way.

Dead ends. You put your faith in the damnedest people.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 12:22:16 AM »
Are you willing to let the people who stormed the Michigan State House use that meme in their defense?

Sure, as soon as the government treats those protesters the way the others have been treated.

Until then, no.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 02, 2020, 11:45:02 PM »

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 02, 2020, 11:42:00 PM »

This is from a superintendent who has already lost a teacher to COVID-19, because she was teaching summer school.

(Kid, if you so much as post "but how do we know that's why she died," I will remove you from our misery.)

Voices from the Pandemic

‘I’m sorry, but it’s a fantasy’
Jeff Gregorich, superintendent, on trying to reopen his schools safely

This is my choice, but I’m starting to wish that it wasn’t. I don’t feel qualified. I’ve been a superintendent for 20 years, so I guess I should be used to making decisions, but I keep getting lost in my head. I’ll be in my office looking at a blank computer screen, and then all of the sudden I realize a whole hour’s gone by. I’m worried. I’m worried about everything. Each possibility I come up with is a bad one.

The governor has told us we have to open our schools to students on August 17th, or else we miss out on five percent of our funding. I run a high-needs district in middle-of-nowhere Arizona. We’re 90 percent Hispanic and more than 90 percent free-and-reduced lunch. These kids need every dollar we can get. But covid is spreading all over this area and hitting my staff, and now it feels like there’s a gun to my head. I already lost one teacher to this virus. Do I risk opening back up even if it’s going to cost us more lives? Or do we run school remotely and end up depriving these kids?

This is your classic one-horse town. Picture John Wayne riding through cactuses and all that. I’m superintendent, high school principal and sometimes the basketball referee during recess. This is a skeleton staff, and we pay an average salary of about 40,000 a year. I’ve got nothing to cut. We’re buying new programs for virtual learning and trying to get hotspots and iPads for all our kids. Five percent of our budget is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Where’s that going to come from? I might lose teaching positions or basic curriculum unless we somehow get up and running.

I’ve been in the building every day, sanitizing doors and measuring out space in classrooms. We still haven’t received our order of Plexiglas barriers, so we’re cutting up shower curtains and trying to make do with that. It’s one obstacle after the next. Just last week I found out we had another staff member who tested positive, so I went through the guidance from OSHA and the CDC and tried to figure out the protocols. I’m not an expert at any of this, but I did my best with the contact tracing. I called 10 people on staff and told them they’d had a possible exposure. I arranged separate cars and got us all to the testing site. Some of my staff members were crying. They’ve seen what can happen, and they’re coming to me with questions I can’t always answer. “Does my whole family need to get tested?” “How long do I have to quarantine?” “What if this virus hits me like it did Mrs. Byrd?”

We got back two of those tests already — both positive. We’re still waiting on eight more. That makes 11 percent of my staff that’s gotten covid, and we haven’t had a single student in our buildings since March. Part of our facility is closed down for decontamination, but we don’t have anyone left to decontaminate it unless I want to put on my hazmat suit and go in there. We’ve seen the impacts of this virus on our maintenance department, on transportation, on food service, on faculty. It’s like this district is shutting down case by case. I don’t understand how anyone could expect us to reopen the building this month in a way that feels safe. It’s like they’re telling us: “Okay. Summer’s over. It’s been long enough. Time to get back to normal.” But since when has this virus operated on our schedule?

I dream about going back to normal. I’d love to be open. These kids are hurting right now. I don’t need a politician to tell me that. We only have 300 students in this district, and they’re like family. My wife is a teacher here, and we had four kids go through these schools. I know whose parents are laid off from the copper mine and who doesn’t have enough to eat. We delivered breakfast and lunches this summer, and we gave out more meals each day than we have students. I get phone calls from families dealing with poverty issues, depression, loneliness, boredom. Some of these kids are out in the wilderness right now, and school is the best place for them. We all agree on that. But every time I start to play out what that looks like on August 17th, I get sick to my stomach. More than a quarter of our students live with grandparents. These kids could very easily catch this virus, spread it and bring it back home. It’s not safe. There’s no way it can be safe.

If you think anything else, I’m sorry, but it’s a fantasy. Kids will get sick, or worse. Family members will die. Teachers will die.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 02, 2020, 10:51:34 PM »
"Pick me, pick me, pick me!"

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 02, 2020, 10:23:29 PM »

A school has opened for the fall, already.

And, within hours, it has shut.

“We knew it was a when, not if,” said Harold E. Olin, superintendent of the Greenfield-Central Community School Corporation”


Administrators began an emergency protocol, isolating the student and ordering everyone who had come into close contact with the person, including other students, to quarantine for 14 days. It is unclear whether the student infected anyone else.

Doesnt say they "shut", extremist.

Sure. It only shut for the students and teacher who came in contact with the kid for 15 minutes or more, not for everybody.

So much better. And you accuse me of rooting for the virus. YOU are the one urging us to have it spread!

It does say the Superintendent was shocked to have it happen on the first day.

Laura Taylor, who has a seventh grader at the middle school, said other students will probably come to school with COVID-19, especially because they could be asymptomatic and spread it to classmates without realizing.

She feels the school is doing the best it can to stay safe and remain open, but virtual learning seems like an inevitable outcome, especially since it took just one day for a confirmed case at the middle school. 

Other school districts such as Washington Township and Indianapolis Public Schools, already made the decision to begin the year online. 

“What needs to happen before we shut down?” she asked.

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