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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 09:23:44 AM »

Go, CNN, go!

Sarcasm, but no real argument.   

If you're trying to advance the case that the press should not check on the claims of politicians, good luck.   Enjoy your retirement cottage in North Korea!

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 09:20:30 AM »

Those would be the Palestinians Iran supplies with weapons and other means of support. Shut the fuck up.

Glad to see you supporting free speech.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 09:16:10 AM »

Somewhat encouraging.  I hope others here took time to read this.   And hope that all these Americans rejecting Trump's views show up at the polls.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 19, 2019, 08:31:24 PM »
I blame Hamilton.   He sneaks in with a post that equates Israel critique with being anti-Israel (whatever that actually means), then ducks out after everyone else gets drawn into the vortex, parting with repeated instructions for us to "wake up" and smell how bad Iran is.   Why I would want to disturb my nap for such trollery is beyond me. 

Facility, meanwhile, is generating a lot of spirochete based invective.  That's fine, so long as you understand that it's the tertiary phase of syphilis where men turn into John C. Calhoun.  Before that, Nietzschean moments of genius may be had.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:51:39 PM »
Cashmere = goat hair sweater three times more insulating than common wool.

Kashmir = country and Led Zeppelin song which rhythmically combines a trimeter with a tetrameter.  Like Bartleby the Scrivener, the country would prefer to be left alone.

Kid, way to troll. 

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:40:13 PM »
We have to start metering our criticism of human rights abuses in Israel in accord with a special Parity Posting Protocol that ensures we also sprinkle critiques of Russia, India, Phillipines, China, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and every other country on Amnesty International's shit-list, all through our postings within a 48 hour time period.  This is to ensure that we do not turn into raging anti-Semites because we're raggin' on poor ol' Israel for turning Palestinian lands into giant prison compounds or just razing ancient olive groves and kicking the buggers out.  Please follow the PPP at all times so as to prevent sudden onset of SASD (Spasmodic Anti-Semitic Syndrome).  Thanks!

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 19, 2019, 12:10:12 PM »

(opening paragraphs excerpted for those with paywall issues)

The organization representing the nation’s most powerful chief executives is rewriting how it views the purpose of a corporation, updating its decades-old endorsement of the theory that shareholders’ interests should come above all else.

The new statement, released Monday by the Business Roundtable, suggests balancing the needs of a company’s various constituencies and comes at a time of widening income inequality, rising expectations from the public for corporate behavior and proposals from Democratic lawmakers that aim to revamp or even restructure American capitalism.

“Americans deserve an economy that allows each person to succeed through hard work and creativity and to lead a life of meaning and dignity,” reads the statement from the organization, which is chaired by JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon.

The group says its members “share a fundamental commitment to all of our stakeholders,” and commit to doing well by their customers, employees, suppliers and local communities. “Each of our stakeholders is essential,” the group adds. “We commit to deliver value to all of them, for the future success of our companies, our communities and our country.”

The new statement includes 181 signatures of the 192 current members of the Business Roundtable, which represents many of the biggest companies in the United States. While the statement represents at the very least a symbolic change in the group’s thinking, it was not clear how companies would change their practices in light of the new commitments, nor how any changes in behavior would be assessed or monitored.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 19, 2019, 09:25:20 AM »
Well done graphic.   And rather conservative, actually, on feedback models where methane release (from thawing bogs, permafrost, and coastal methane hydrates) is factored in.   Melting sea ice is also a large feedback factor, as infrared reflective ice surface is lost.   These positive feedback factors (as well as decreased clouds) can all potentially steepen the curve, i.e. accelerate the warming.   

You would think the fact that Arrhenius successfully predicted the basic trend in 1896 would lend some credibility to the field of atmospheric physics, but the deniers are pretty much a cult and not responsive to having their internet mythologies debunked.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 03:51:36 PM »

I don't know why everyone has to take everything to extremes.  -    Exactly, like those ANTIFUCKS - no need for them at all

Quite right!  People demonstrating against fascism and corruption and racism, who needs that kind of noise?  Better to roll over and get your head properly fitted under the jackboot.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 03:45:54 PM »
Criterion #1 -- met, and exceeded expectations! 

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 01:12:33 PM »
No I am not an American self-loather. Have you ever wondered why so many want to come to the shiny shores if it is so terrible? People are not risking life and limb to migrate to Iraq or Pakistan.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 12:42:15 PM »

But bigger picture, I think its more a gray hat/black hat paradigm.

And my take is the black hats want to exterminate the gray hats and have for a long time and as a result the gray hats have become darker over time.

But I believe the gray hats have a right to exist.

I understand that others may disagree with me.

The right to exist is the basic of my posts on this.   When you beat the shit out of people for over half a century, they do tend to get pissed, and radicalize.   Hats do turn darker.

If, in all posts, we replaced Israel with "United States" and Arab/Palestinian with "native American," I think almost everyone would more easily grasp the real cost, in human terms, of treating people as if they are accidents on the landscape. 

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 10:50:52 AM »
Glad you are jumping in to the what the fubar is going on in the world discussion as much as hoops.

Really I think you folks are fantastically wasting your time arguing with the likes red and kiid and luee and bambu.  They offer such weak foils. Red merely stays on top of the right wing propaganda.
What's the point of debating them?
Actually they don't even debate, just provoke or propagandize.
None of them make a credible case or are persuadable.

You folks are knowledgeable and passionate.
Shouldn't you be joining a Dem campaign and actively working to remove Trump from office?

Agree, and I have. (*) And your posts on China are keepers.  I'm trying to learn more about the PRC these days, so welcome your contributions.  As for the trolls, I think many here just use them to keep their discursive knives sharpened.  No one has any illusions that entrenched and sclerotic views will be changed.  There is also an entertainment aspect to it.

*  as web admin at a science website, I help promote dissemination of solid peer reviewed research on climate change and anthropogenic GW, i.e. data that runs counter to the current GOP narrative.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 10:40:23 AM »

It make perfect sense to those who aren’t suffering from Syphilis.

Since you are suffering from a very late stage of Syphilis, as evidenced by your posts, there is no point in explaining what is clear and straight forward to you.

Your keen, insightful, and point-by-point analysis, as ever, really drives a  discussion.


Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: August 18, 2019, 10:37:59 AM »
The  Chairwoman of the Federal Elections Commission has called President Trump on his bullshit about the NH 2016 presidential election: "put your cards on the table or fold."

I have a new metric here for what criteria makes a good posting:  criterion #1 is that it must offend KidC.  Criterion #2 is that it must accurately describe a state of affairs outside of my head, i.e. external reality.

Trump is a fat fucking liar.   There, both boxes checked. 

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