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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: Today at 10:14:49 AM »
Quite possible.

In 1974, the GOP was a party.   It is now a cult.   So none of this matters.   Thanks to the Kochs et al, a far-right cabal took over the GOP,  and members were programmed to believe anything they hear from officials and from Faux News, a lot of long-debunked economic and social theories.  With a dollop of theocracy.   Of course Trump won't be convicted.   A dismissal will just eliminate the sham that a Senate trial would be (a sham in the sense that most GOP senators will only pretend to hear evidence and pretend to consider it).   The real question is how many independent voters have drunk the Fox/Koch/Trump tea-flavored koolaid.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 09, 2019, 06:06:46 PM »
Bambu, I get occasional chances to hang out with people who spend a lot of time evaluating data on climate change and can tell you not one of them views Jane Fonda as a reputable climatologist.  As for the Industrial Revolution, there is no dispute that it enabled humans to go from 1 billion to 7.2 billion.   At one billion, a fossil fuel based system of production might be indefinitely sustainable.  It's pretty clear that at 7.2 billion, not so much.   Hence the need to adapt, with cleaner forms of energy and production.   The IR fed billions, but it also created those billions.  It's a phase in the rise of tech civilization, not a sustainable end point.   Jane's analogy is ridiculous, I agree, and she does dedicated scientists and crafters of sane policies no service with her kooky and inflammatory rhetoric.   I've always liked her, but she gets flaky when she strays beyond her areas of expertise.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 09, 2019, 11:29:29 AM »
Fascinating to me that a polled drop in interest in the impeachment proceedings in the House is conflated with a drop in support of impeachment.  Those are two different things.  The former does not imply the latter. 

As for "fake news," we are talking about what is essentially a legal proceeding in the House, where matters of public record are aired.  It's just news.  The fakery lies only in what the self-deluded choose as a soothing interpretation.

Making it all about personality is what people do when the facts don't really support their position.  Being a troll means never acknowledging those facts. 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 09, 2019, 09:36:34 AM »

  I can only add that if asking for competent, honest and accountable government is "fucked in the head" then call me batshit cuckoo for cocoa puffs stark raving mad.   I AM proud to live in a nation where we are permitted to call for the removal of sociopathic scoundrels from high office.

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 08, 2019, 10:52:24 PM »
Areas of ozone depletion extended to southern Australia and tip of S. America.  "Hole" was meant loosely.  Yes, the greatest depletion was over Antarctica.  But a zone of depletion was larger than that.

And it's all beside the point, which you evade, that gases even in low ppb concentrations can have massive effects.   NO (nitrogen oxide) for example has 300 times the longwave energy retention of C02, and is thus a powerful greenhouse gas.  So it's a serious problem that it's found in tailpipe emissions.   Some gases, like methane, have a positive feedback effect, where methane traps heat, melting permafrost, which then releases more methane, which traps more heat.   


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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 08, 2019, 10:02:44 PM »
Many people's assessment. Including some who have left the administration

Egg throwers?  Not so much.  But you wouldn't expect praise from opposition extremists

EXTREMISTS!!

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 08, 2019, 09:51:34 PM »
I invite anyone who thinks gas concentrations of 400 ppm are trifling to breathe chlorine or hydrogen cyanide at those levels!   

And catalytic gases like trichlorofluoromethane ripped open the UV protective ozone layer over Bambuland at much smaller concentrations, leaving a hole that may be there for thousands of years. 

 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 07, 2019, 10:43:54 AM »
Walk, bike, carpool, travel overseas by boat like Pippi Longstocking Greta T.  Reduce consumerism.  Reuse stuff, reycle when possible, promote mass transit locally, use a sturdy canvas totebag at the market, eat lower on the foodchain, buy stuff that lasts and take care of it like we humans had to do for 99% of our time on earth so far.  Reject foods that contain palm oil.  Eat local fruit instead of bananas shipped 2000 miles.   Try alternatives to rice, like millet, which produces far less methane.  Etc.

Spitting into the wind if don’t get off fossil fuels.

Yes, it's why I put walk and bike as the first two.   I would probably have to move south - we're pretty dependent on natural gas to get through winters here.   Solar heat with an electric heat backup for cloudy days would be a budget breaker at this latitude.   We'd have to transition with biomass fuels. 

I was answering Bambu, so was trying to convey some idea of where the transition would start.   The no palm oil thing is, surprisingly, significant.   Oil palm plantations release huge amounts of rainforest-stored carbon.   

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 06, 2019, 07:31:56 PM »
Hearing Vogon poetry v. watching your hand voting for Trump... tough call. 

Six days on a boat v. squeezed into a flying metal tube with nasty jet lag greeting your arrival....easy call. 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 06, 2019, 05:38:43 PM »
Quote
Trump and Giuliani have effectively “given the Russians ammunition they can use in an overt fashion, a covert fashion or in the twisting of information,” said John Sipher, former deputy chief of Russia operations at the CIA. Sipher and others said that it is so likely that Russia tracked the calls of Giuliani and others that the Kremlin probably knows more now about those conversations than impeachment investigators.

But, but, but Hillary!  Emails! 

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 06, 2019, 05:32:37 PM »
Fizdale fired.

Move to sports forum, please?

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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 06, 2019, 05:31:37 PM »
Walk, bike, carpool, travel overseas by boat like Pippi Longstocking Greta T.  Reduce consumerism.  Reuse stuff, reycle when possible, promote mass transit locally, use a sturdy canvas totebag at the market, eat lower on the foodchain, buy stuff that lasts and take care of it like we humans had to do for 99% of our time on earth so far.  Reject foods that contain palm oil.  Eat local fruit instead of bananas shipped 2000 miles.   Try alternatives to rice, like millet, which produces far less methane.  Etc.




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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: December 06, 2019, 10:26:01 AM »
At least kiid seems to have dropped the phony pretense that he isn't a Trump supporter.

(I meant now/the past two years, not the last election)

The pretense will return if Trump is led away in handcuffs.   

Or if he shoots someone on 5th Avenue that Kid likes.

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