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Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 05, 2018, 09:57:28 AM »
Swoosh there goes NIKE sliding down the slippery suicidal corporate slope. There is some serious animosity at the grassroot level.

Kaepernick gave up a career to make peaceful protests about police brutality and racism.   Very first amendment.  A true American.   I have never owned that brand of shoe,  but now might buy a pair.   Multiply me by a few million,  and I think we've covered the redneck morons who are posting videos of burning Nikes.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 05, 2018, 12:02:16 AM »
   Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.   

Time to peaceably assemble another baby blimp.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 06:40:53 PM »
Guys,  is it that hard to quote the last line of the post you're replying to?   All you need.  We can see up the page.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 06:38:26 PM »
Wouldn't a legitimate question to ask the SC nominee, Would you approve a delay if the other side dropped 42,000 pages of evidence the night before a trial was to begin?

Legit indeed.  Could the GOP be a wee bit insecure about this nominee?

As for the character of said nominee....

Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter was murdered in the Parkland shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School, was in attendance at today’s Senate Judiciary confirmation hearings.  And snubbed.  (per Huffpost)

Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as morning session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as Jaime Guttenberg’s dad. He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. I guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence.

I was here all day and introduced by Senator Feinstein. No security involved. He turned and walked away.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 04:11:01 PM »
So,  no reply from Kid,  who asked for more discussion,  when I offered a basis for discussion of Trump and the First Amendment.  Let the record show a chance for calm debate was offered.   

Regarding the Bob exposè...nothing most of us didn't already know.   You can watch video of DT from over a decade ago and clearly see the contrast,  the decline in mental competence, emotional stability,  and vocabulary.  I no longer hate Trump but see him as a sad and pitiful person, propped up by an extremist political base who insist on a figurehead they can flaunt as an iconoclastic Beltway "outsider. "   Trump needs therapeutic treatment and kind advice from loved ones to resign and find some peace.   Keeping a mentally ill man propped up like this is a cruelty of epic proportion.  I hold his family and inner circle responsible for this abuse.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 12:21:15 PM »
Article states that Trump wants to deny "dark-skinned Americans" the right to vote.

It's trash.

What article are you referring to?  Got link?  Hard to discuss an invisible article. 

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 12:20:00 PM »

This explains so much!  Wonder where Mr. Gibson took Mel and the rest of the family, then.  I'm thinking a theme park in Nevada somewhere.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 12:17:02 PM »


No.  Very seldom anything specific laid out

That you chose to ignore it or deny it doesn't mean it didn't occur.

The conversation about refusing legal asylum seekers the right to apply for asylum is a violation of our laws and our treaties, directed by the President's administration.

The kidnapping of children from those legal asylum seekers violated our laws and the Constitution.

The refusal to track them and initially to aid in recovering them was a violation of the Constitution, probably more than one. (Habeus Corpus, for one.)

The seizure of citizen's passports and denial of new ones without due process was a violation of the Constitution.

Locking up citizens because the officials "suspected" they might not be citizens is a violation of the Constitution.

That's not discussion

Its accusation.

And you have taken liberties here, sir.

Kidnapping?  Really?

The EXTREMITY of position is your (YES, YG - I mean it plural) greatest deficiency.

OK, how about we just start with the first article and then work our way down in a calm discussion?

Trump has attacked the press steadily, on a nearly daily basis, since taking office, and attempted to restrict its freedoms and personally attacked reporters who do nothing but accurately report matters of public record.  He has encouraged the harassment of reporters at rallies and other events, and has selectively banned reporters from press conferences.  He has called journalists "the enemy of the people."  This is a violation of both the letter and the spirit of 1st amendment.  Freedom of the press is considered, by pretty much anyone who has ever bothered to learn about the American democratic system, a basic foundational principle.

Agree/disagree?  Please provide factual evidence and reasoning to support your decision.  This is how they do it at real political forums.

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 04, 2018, 09:53:11 AM »

They sat in seats of honor, near the front of Washington National Cathedral. They bowed their heads when appropriate. They looked up pensively and listened.

By all appearances, they were honoring their departed colleague, Senator John Sidney McCain III, during a majestic ceremony on Saturday. And by doing so they were showing America that leaders of both parties reject the hateful, petty, law-defying politics of President Trump. They were showing America what a better nation could look like.

But it was all an act — a cynical, hypocritical act that McCain, who had a keen eye for hypocrisy, would have seen right through.

It was an act for Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader. It was an act for Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House. It was an act, most jarringly, for Lindsey Graham, McCain’s dear friend and the senior senator from South Carolina. It was an act for Orrin Hatch, Rob Portman and nearly all of the other Republican members of Congress who attended the service.

It was an act because they have not kept faith with the principles that McCain held dear — and that he himself organized his memorial service to celebrate, as a clear rebuke to Trump and Trumpism. McConnell, Ryan, Graham and the others have instead done the very opposite of keeping faith. They have made possible Trump’s hateful, petty, law-defying politics.

Despite running a branch of government that the Constitution makes equal to the presidency, they have meekly assented to Trump. Entrusted with power, they have chosen complicity.

The congressional Republicans inside the Washington National Cathedral on Saturday would surely say they came to honor John McCain. But they were there for show. Faced with a choice, they have rejected McCain’s America for Trump’s.

The Congressional Republicans: cowards, and quislings.

pay site

Which is why he quoted a chunk of it for you.   You could try "thank you, " but I guess you don't see our cut/pasting here as a courtesy done for those with paywall issues.

Movies / Re: Movies
« on: September 03, 2018, 03:38:42 PM »
Banana is the Asian metaphor equivalent to Oreo.   Some good jokes,  lots of trite but fun stuff,  and Singapore has great sky candy.  I heart Gemma Chan,  who plays a sister.   She's also great in the UK science fiction series "Humans. " 

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 02, 2018, 05:54:35 PM »
You're going to make a great curmudgeon! 

Meander Where You May / Re: Meander Where You May
« on: September 01, 2018, 03:39:29 PM »

RIP.   My uncle (the Bohemian artist one) used to subscribe, and in my youth I would read it sometimes when visiting.   It being Kansas,  that was a pretty good reach for a neighborhood newspaper.   

Trump Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: September 01, 2018, 03:11:24 PM »
But blowing a trillion dollar hole in the budget IS prudent?   

I await clarification.

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