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16  National / Religion and Politics / Re: Religion and Politics on: July 16, 2018, 02:31:50 PM

17  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 16, 2018, 12:03:09 PM
Ornstein has been warning about minority rule for a while now.  What's scary is that the particular minority is the one that is easily manipulated by oligarchs.

Meanwhile, this snippet made me happy:

“They realized that a family of woodchucks lived in the underbody of my Suburban and they ate all the wiring out of it,” he said. “And so my car was eaten by animals, and it’s just dead. I had to call the insurance company. So I don’t have a car.”
- Paul Ryan

I know.  Too many jokes.

18  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 16, 2018, 12:07:33 AM
Examine and amend your behavior if you don't like it on IGGY

Makes little sense for me to have a care in reading your crass-mouthed postings.

Disrespectfulness is my only reason to ever use the feature

The disrespect you get is due to your using the feature,  and general lack of accountability for your comments.   You never consider a contrary opinion,  respond to evidence or logic,  or own up to it when you are duped by your Golden Idol.   You try to attack and shame people for simply questioning dubious authority and corrupt practice.  You would have made a terrific Nazi.   Fuck you and all your zombie horde.  

No disrespect or anything.
19  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 15, 2018, 12:06:54 PM
Nope.   You have to actually read the article.   The Trump administration is their enemy,  not the protesters. 

And I'm betting you are too cowardly to take me off Ignore and read the Toronto Star story I posted.   You pathetic narrow-minded little fuck. 
20  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 15, 2018, 09:32:18 AM
Based on his domestic arrangements, love of empty bluster, and simplistic cruelty, the most English thing for trump to do is take in a Punch and Judy show.
21  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 15, 2018, 09:31:34 AM

Great Leader Comrade Don J Trump today pointed out that there was a tape of his speech that would prove that CNN and other agencies lied about his having insulted PM May of the UK.

The tape proves the opposite, unsurprisingly to most of us.

The Star explores a statistical concept called "dishonesty density. " 
22  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 14, 2018, 02:21:24 PM

23  Arts / Television / Re: Television on: July 14, 2018, 11:12:32 AM
I hope AMC runs a BCS marathon before the new season kicks in.

As to Chuck as best I recall his pathetic denouement was a sad intersection of Tommy Smother's "mom always liked you best" and Gene Hackman's destructive paranoia in "The Conversation".

in any case looking forward to the evolution/devolution of Jimmy.

I remember the floorboard scene in The Conversation.  Yes,  good parallel.   

I just hope Kim lands on her feet.   

24  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 14, 2018, 11:08:34 AM

How the Senate will skew old,  white,  and GOP in a few years.   

Had to chuckle at the twitter reply about moving to Wyoming and opening a yoga studio.
25  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 13, 2018, 04:07:12 PM
The big prize is a revised nuclear arms treaty. Trump spoke of substantially reducing or even getting rid of nuclear weapons, adding it was a subject he would certainly bring up with Putin. “The proliferation is a tremendous, I mean to me, it’s the biggest problem in the world, nuclear weapons, biggest problem in the world.”    
--- Guardian,  7/13

Between this pearl of wisdom and all the trash talk about Theresa followed by the preposterous denials,  plus all the praise of Putin,  I am prompted to ask:

How did Jerzy Kosinski know all this was  coming?   America elected Chance the gardener.  
26  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 13, 2018, 03:31:08 PM
Robert,  thanks for the meta anal-ysis.   Which my auto-correct changed to Mets.   Wow,  AI is still a few years away.  Banks sends his love and wanted you to know how much he misses your wit,  good looks,  and scalp massages.   I think that's what he meant... I sorta read between the lines.   

Kid:  hugs.   Stick with those ESL classes, bro.   You'll get there.   
27  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 13, 2018, 12:57:25 PM
You've read KidCarter shat out for years.

You actually think that you're going to change his mind? You actually care if he has you on Iggy? What are you? Fucking dumb?

If one is a thinking person, one writes what one writes more for one's self than any other reason. You know this to be true about yourself, if not all others.

If one is not a thinking person then one writes what one writes in order to be that puissant in a gang who lets the big kids do the true fighting but swings his boney fist into the fray just to be able to say that he helped.

Kid is just a provocateur. His opinions mean nothing. He is a part of a shrinking minority that is in the last throes of its insurgency. They had a good run, but it's over. Why the fuck does anyone care what the fuck a fucking fuck head has to fucking say? And that he has put you on Iggy! That would indicate that he finds your thoughts to be a threat to his existence.

I'd see it as a badge of honor if there were any honor at all surrounding KidCarter8's mental processes.

So stop whining about it! Jesus Christ.

well said

You misread.  I was responding on the matter of Kid weighing in on free speech.  To Needs Adj.  I have no complaint whatever.  Just pointing out Kid's hypocrisy in censoring other posters (he also Ignores Facilitatorn).  I can condemn a cheap trick without having any personal need to seek a remedy.

Regarding writing only for oneself.  That's true of some writers and some kinds of writing.  I respect that, and it's a fine way to sharpen and clarify one's thinking.  But, when I reply to someone's posting, I am communicating with them.  And I did waste several posts on Carter before I was informed that he had Iggy'd me.  If other readers got anything out of those posts, great.  If not, I'm okay with it.

I will say, in the interests of basic fairness, that Kid should be shown my original post to which you were replying.  Seeing only your reply is not really cricket.  Know what I mean?

What's amusing to me is that he professes to ignore me, and happily censor me, but when you responded to my post he read it and had to chime in.  When someone acts like a prick, one does well to find some laughs in it.  If you reply to this, kindly his "QUOTE" button and keep the quotes intact, if that's not too much trouble.

28  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 13, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
Dude, that's a little harsh.   Cheesy

-- Barton
29  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 13, 2018, 11:52:30 AM

Conservatives are big defenders of free long as its speech they agree with.

Discovered a few weeks ago that Kid has me on Ignore all the time.  This puerile act of censorship was apparently the result of too many posts that disagree with his assessment of Trump as a fine leader.  Other sacred cows may have been gored, too.  I had actually spent some time writing courteous and thoughtful posts to him, not realizing they were going unread.  So it seems he's only seen the ones that he perceives as more inflammatory.   On the day he revealed that he was, in a post of staggering condescenscion, taking me off Ignore for one day, I learned for the first time that I had been on Ignore status.  Needless to say, this kind of destroyed any credibility he might have on the subject of free speech.  Free speech withers when it is not part of free dialog.  And it violated my sense of what this political forum seemed to have established as a guiding principle and source of vitality:  that we listen to the opinions of people we strongly disagree with, perhaps even condemn.  So there was a kind of reciprocity I felt was violated - here I was, listening to Kid and Red and Luee, trying to understand where they are coming from, and one of them was clapping his hands over his ears and going "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" like an 8 year old.  
30  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 13, 2018, 09:54:45 AM

People speak of the White Man's privilege, but the White Man also has a burden. To those whom much is given, much is expected from. If you are given more, then you need to do more to help other people.


Tony V.   

This post,  and the Kipling poem,  are curiously at odds with your other posts here.   You do realize that Kipling was not referring merely to material prosperity and an obligation to share?   Kipling felt,  as many Europeans and Americans did,  that their white culture was superior and that Asians and Africans and New World peoples were savages that needed our governance and spiritual ministry.   
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