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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 24, 2018, 01:25:31 PM »

And that's how you get yards on a speedy defense. Cut back on the over pursuit.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 24, 2018, 01:22:58 PM »

Bama using a couple of helicopters to dry the field.

Awww, poor Bama afwaid of getting wet? Man up pussies.

Don't be a hater just because they're smart. 

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 24, 2018, 11:52:12 AM »

Bama using a couple of helicopters to dry the field.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 23, 2018, 10:20:46 PM »

Terrible injury, really feel bad for the Kid.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 23, 2018, 11:54:20 AM »

It's amazing how more frequently I agree with ESPN3 than I do with RedStateWard.

People are multi layered.  Part of the problem with modern political thinking is the concept that if someone disagrees with our political beliefs -- it makes them stupid and a horrible person.  There are horrible and stupid people on both sides of the political spectrum...just as there are also kind and intelligent  people on both sides.

Well said.

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Basketball / Re: NCAA

« on: November 21, 2018, 06:57:32 PM »

Duke making a furious comeback on the Zags. Helluva game.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 21, 2018, 12:48:02 PM »

As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.


What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.

Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.

They seem unorganized, unfocused and lacking in communication,  which results in all the Big plays. That is coaching. Between the controversy, his suspension, his health, and stress, Meyer seems not to be the same same coach he was. I wonder if it is time for him to pick up that ESPN gig again.

I think the coaching thing is part of it. But in this modern day of signal upon signal you also need those guys on the field that can make sure everyone is on the same page and do it in 2 seconds.(That's the game right there)

For instance Bama showed a little chink in the armor stuff last year when some of their key defensive communication guys got injured and they lost all those communicating ILB's of theirs. At one point they had a safety trying to communicate to the front guys what their assignments were. That's usually one of the inside LBs job and you could see some serious mixups in that game. Finally in that game as part of the solution I saw the Sabanites switch their secondary coverage running a lot more straight man to free that guy up to press up closer to the line. Although you also saw him backpeddling his ass off several times after screaming out the set. It's been my observance that in their normal environment the Sabanites like to play man-free and combo man more than anything. They try and push everything to the inside whenever possible. This is why IMO they can be had on deep outside iso routes more than teams try to do. I suspect since usually the other teams QB is generally running for his life they just don't have time to run that shit. It's a wonder how pressure will make secondaries look good. :-)

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 21, 2018, 12:31:46 PM »

Anyway, time for my annual morph into a 75 year old man, sitting in a rocker on my front porch, waving my cane in the air while railing against the sins of modernity.

I.used to love the last week of college football, when there was only the ABC broadcast. Michigan - Ohio State at noon, Oklahoma - Nebraska at 3:30, USC - UCLA in the Rose Bowl at night. What.a.great.day, all day with my dad watching football, roaring fire in the living room, great rivalries, great games. It felt communal, like.every college football fan was in the room with me, watching along. Woah Nellie, was that a.day.

Now? USC and UCLA played last week, Nebraska and Oklahoma never play each other any more, and I will have about 8 games to chose from to compete with The Game. It is just not the same. Something indefinable has been lost. And it is not even the last.week anymore; instead of proving your worth through the grind of the season, we get to see the Fighting Nerds get stomped by ClemSIN between Dr. Pepper ads. Now, get off my lawn!

Good stuff. Reminds me of why I still like you.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 21, 2018, 08:57:17 AM »

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals250-db-jalen-perry-picks-michigan

Excellent pick-up by Harbaugh.

I see the guy as a better fit at safety rather than a CB. That is if he's got the mindset for the role.

Good hands and a receiver's brain though, so CB could be where he shines.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 20, 2018, 09:01:22 PM »

As bad as OSU seems, I keep remembering, as they always do, they seem to do find a way to win. They are after all still 10-1. But I think they're winning on pure talent. I know that sounds like it doesn't make any sense. But yet, it does.


What I mean by that is they seem lacking, to me, simply in player leadership. They need leaders to step up and I'm just not seeing it. The young QB has talent but I see him get rattled in lots of critical situations. Same with the OL and the entire defense. Did losing Bosa leave them without a guy to look to when things get crazy? Maybe that's it I keep telling myself.

Physical talent alone doesn't make a leader.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 20, 2018, 08:05:03 PM »

And just when you think Godzilla is dead...


I'm not putting any money on Michigan.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 20, 2018, 07:34:49 PM »

Is this the week UCF jumps.a.big boy? Specifically, will the Committee but them ahead of Ohio State?

Looks like they did. But still behind a 2 loss LSU.


Next question is will OSU hop back in front of UCF if the Buckeyes take out the Wolverines?

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 20, 2018, 07:25:25 PM »

When you put it that way I agree with you.

Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.

Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.

To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.

A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?

Offensive pussies.

I know you love tough, hard-nosed football  Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.

If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.

Then it's a problem with reffing.  All you need to do is read the rule book.

I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.

The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.

That's fine, Cap'n.  But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?"  My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men."  That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.

The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.

At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.

Like that has ever bothered you.

There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.

What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?

You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.

What makes you think it has to be both?

I neither said nor implied that it did.

Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.

I would read your mind but the Adventures of Dick and Jane bore me.

A pathetic attempt. You're better than that. No coffee this morning?

You still on that thread? Don't you have any constructive College Football comments to offer?

I didn't want you to feel left out.


And of course I do. Some that you might even be able to comprehend.

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 20, 2018, 12:03:41 PM »

When you put it that way I agree with you.

Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.

Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.

To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.

A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?

Offensive pussies.

I know you love tough, hard-nosed football  Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.

If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.

Then it's a problem with reffing.  All you need to do is read the rule book.

I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.

The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.

That's fine, Cap'n.  But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?"  My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men."  That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.

The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.

At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.

Like that has ever bothered you.

There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.

What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?

You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.

What makes you think it has to be both?

I neither said nor implied that it did.

Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.

I would read your mind but the Adventures of Dick and Jane bore me.

A pathetic attempt. You're better than that. No coffee this morning?

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Football / Re: College Football

« on: November 20, 2018, 10:24:57 AM »

When you put it that way I agree with you.

Hey. I know what the score is and what’s happening in college football these days. There really isn’t any reason for Bama to go on the road and take on someone decent at this point. The idea is to get to that national championship game, get that trophy, rake in the riches that come along with that, get all the best recruits, etc. etc. etc. But sometimes you can do some things that really help college football on the way.
I was thinking of a long ago Southern Cal team which traveled to Alabama to play the Tide. By the time Sam ‘Bam’ Cunningham and friends were done with them the folks at Alabama knew that they finally had to get themselves some of those ’Negroes’ on their team or their time as a national powerhouse was over.
OSU scheduled a home and away with Oklahoma the past two years that worked out wonderfully for both schools and college football in particular. OSU went there and beat the Sooners on their home field and accrued much national standing from that, despite early worries from some that there was no good which could come from an out of conference game against a national powerhouse. Oklahoma with Baker Mayfield returned the favor the next year in Columbus. All great stuff, and great for the game. Stack that up against an Alabama vs. Citadel game, which is a waste of everybody’s time, regardless of what it does or does not do for someones strength of schedule.

Like I said I hear what you're saying. I can't fault Nicky quite as much as you because at this point of the year Bama playing an OOC powerhouse is something basically nobody does. This is basically an SEC thing where they are using this method of healing up before rivalry week. Personally I can see their point from where they are sitting and I can see your point more as a fan of the overall game of college football. But I think the game has gotten to the point of what is good for college football means to different people.

To the folks that run BIG TIME college football they care about money. They want the stars to be there and shine during 'Rivalry Week'. Much like all of these so-called new 'safety rules' have as much to do with money as with safety. QB's, RB, and WRs are 'money' players. Don't touch them. This motto rings even truer in Pro-Football. The way I see it the powers that be might just as well put red vests on them and stop all the fucking pretending.

A running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?

Offensive pussies.

I know you love tough, hard-nosed football  Cap'n and concussions be damned but by rule offensive players aren't allowed to initiate contact with the crown of their helmets either.

If they have the ball they can and do. Seen it way too many times YG.

Then it's a problem with reffing.  All you need to do is read the rule book.

I have never seen a running back flagged for targeting while running the ball. I doubt I ever will. Or a receiver. Or a QB. And if helmet to helmet is called it will be the defensive guys fault every time.

The targeting rule is unfair and sucks dead donkey dick.

That's fine, Cap'n.  But at the risk of being called a lawyer, which I know is an epithet in your book, that ain't your initial argument here which was that offensive players are "pussies" because "[a] running back, wide receiver, TE and QB can lower their head and deliver a crown of the helmet blow any fucking time they feel like it. They can stick their hands into a defenders face mask(stiff arm) any fucking time they feel like it. What kind of two faced bullshit is that?"  My argument (and the rule book's) is that stuff is as much against the rules for the offensive "pussies" as it is for the defensive "men."  That those violations are not called is an issue for the refs and not one you can blame on the rules.

The targeting rule issue is a separate one and the rule is one that I'm okay with particularly, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, it might help defenders to remember how to bring their arms to the dance.

At the risk of sounding like an asshole, see my last post.

Like that has ever bothered you.

There is a difference between sounding like an asshole and being one.

What on earth makes you think one cannot be both?

You posted a great big "Kick Me Hard" sign on your own ass.

What makes you think it has to be both?

I neither said nor implied that it did.

Didn't have to I can read your mind, it comes with years of experience dealing with you.