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Basketball / Re: NCAA
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:01:48 PM »
Nova getting their butts stomped by the Wolverines. And a hook and hold gets tempers flarin.
The Committee said no.
I think over all, the Committee will consider that Oklahoma still possesses the stronger resume.Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
So you think the Oklahoma victory more impressive than the West Va victory, or at least no real margin of difference. Fair enough.
Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?
Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
If defense wins championships how much should the CFP Committee ding Oklahoma for not having much of one?
Oh...and Kentucky looks like Kansas
... They probably can't even agree with what that means....
This discussion began after Cargo maintained a Notre Dame loss would hurt Michigan.
The Committee has said the gap between Meatchicken and Georgia is razor thin, so yes the two could.easily switch places. But unless.Georgia beats Alabama, they would not finish ahead of a one loss Big Whatever team. And if they do Alabama becomes the issue for Meatchicken.
As you pointed out, more succinctly than me, a Notre Dame loss HELPS Michigan make the playoffs.
Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last? If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.
An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.
Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.
BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.