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Basketball / Re: NCAA
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:01:48 PM »
Nova getting their butts stomped by the Wolverines. And a hook and hold gets tempers flarin.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 14, 2018, 07:14:40 PM »
The Committee said no.

Can't get nothin by you Skip.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 08:10:41 PM »
Remember when everyone thought Mike Leach couldn't turn the miserable Cougars around? Well, maybe not everyone.


Then again you guys whupped em by three points so how good can they be?

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 07:09:47 PM »
Looking like no movement so far.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 07:07:18 PM »
And what about Wash St?

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 07:02:14 PM »
Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?

Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?

So you think the Oklahoma victory more impressive than the West Va victory, or at least no real margin of difference. Fair enough.
I think over all, the Committee will consider that Oklahoma still possesses the stronger resume.


Well Massey seems to agree with you on that. As does my old buddy Jeffy.


But then you know me and defense.

Oklahoma has given up 298 points as opposed to West Va's 188 points.


Maybe take into consideration that the Cowboy team isn't really showing they are any better more or less than TCU.


But like OSU and Michigan, Oklahoma and West Va will take care of themselves as they will meet later on. In fact the Mountaineers get to go to Cowboytown next week before they meet the Sooners. So like Yankguy suggests we'll tak it week to week.

I was just wondering about everyone's thoughts about 'this' week and any possible notable changes.


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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 03:45:40 PM »
Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?

Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.
Why? Oklahoma won a rivalry game against a pretty good team. WVU beat a down TCU. While each week gets a fresh set of eyes, they see the old data too. And that old data includes an FCS school on WVU's record. If the Committee had Oklahoma ahead after a close one at TT, why change now?

So you think the Oklahoma victory more impressive than the West Va victory, or at least no real margin of difference. Fair enough.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:33:15 PM »
Does West Virginia hop over Oklahoma in the Football Four Poll tonight?

Hard to say, but I would have them ahead of the Sooners.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:19:50 PM »
If defense wins championships how much should the  CFP Committee ding Oklahoma for not having much of one?

Funny you would ask that when you(and others) loudly decried the LSU/Bama defensive battle of a while back.

But now that there is a team from the Big 10 playing stellar defense who is in the mix...



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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 11, 2018, 05:26:10 PM »
Oh...and Kentucky looks like Kansas

Yep.(I'm assuming you mean Kansas of about a decade ago) If so Kansas looks better. If you are referring to having a good team every ten years, maybe yes again. The Jayhawks haven't had a bowl eligible team since 2008 though. Kentucky has had 5 and is looking at #6.

 Just waiting to see who they get in their bowl game now. They'll probably finish 9-3 which I doubt anyone was predicting at the beginning of the year. So nice season for them if they can pull off the bowl win.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 09, 2018, 02:37:57 PM »
... They probably can't even agree with what that means....

Well we can't so why should they be any different Scotty? :-)

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 09, 2018, 07:28:48 AM »

The Committee has said the gap between Meatchicken and Georgia is razor thin, so yes the two could.easily switch places. But unless.Georgia beats Alabama, they would not finish ahead of a one loss Big Whatever team. And if they do Alabama becomes the issue for Meatchicken.
This discussion began after Cargo maintained a Notre Dame loss would hurt Michigan.
As you pointed out, more succinctly than me, a Notre Dame loss HELPS Michigan make the playoffs.

It eliminates ND sure. But two or especially three losses by them hurts Michigan. It hurts that 'signature loss'(I just invented that) that they currently sport. Coupled with if they have lackluster wins possibly including barely beating an OSU team with possibly two losses.(OSU ends up with three losses)

Yankguy could see the possible BIG picture. You can't. He understood what was being said and thus his week by week comment.

Say if Georgia beats Alabama in the SEC CG, yet still Bama could very well still be in and in ahead of Michigan. I believe Steve has mentioned this several times that Bama could still be in though not the seeding part.

Now, attend Weedhopper. Say Oklahoma blitzes every opponent they face from now on. So Oklahoma looks very new shiny at the end. Add Texas wins the rest of their games, including beating current Committee darling ISU. Now ND and Texas sport identical 9-3 records. Then reference words ascending and descending, add that info to the mix.

Recap: Okie hot, Texas hot. Notre Dame not, Michigan winning but not shiny.(As YG mentioned) Or, simply think, New hottie. Old busted hottie.(MIB)

So if these events all take place in a perfect storm, as the Evil Emperor said to Luke Sywalker, you shall pay the price for your lack of vision.


Have I mentioned lately that I crack myself up?


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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 08, 2018, 04:57:44 PM »
A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.

An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.

Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.

If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.

BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.
Why? Aren't one weeks rankings supposed to be independent of the last?  If so, I'd wager an uninspired Michigan win over Rutgers plus a Georgia massacre of Auburn could well switch them.

Yep.


I've been told this for several years now by some folks here that 'each week's rankings are independent'. Sometimes I think it's a matter of convenience for them to forget what they've said over and over when someone's argument makes no sense.

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Football / Re: College Football
« on: November 08, 2018, 04:29:31 PM »
A Notre Dame loss also hurts Michigan. And to maybe a lesser extent OSU if they are the B10 entry for consideration.
A Notre Dame loss hurts Notre Dame.
It does not hurt Michigan.
Michigan can only hurt Michigan by losing.

An undefeated ND helps the Michigan loss. Lots and lots of talk about how 'Michigan's only loss is to undefeated Notre Dame'. A Notre Dame loss tarnishes that a bit. No other way around that. A two loss ND even more.

Also my thinking has OSU beating Michigan 'may' mean more if ND stays undefeated. But that could I suppose be argued either way.
Well, if Our Lady of the Perpetual Tie loses it may mean that tOSU beats the #3 team in the rankings, which is hard to improve on. Of course tOSU is picking up their second loss on Saturday, so they are out of the playoff picture anyway.

If ND falls off the shelf and gets themselves Humpty Dumptied with two or three losses the talk in the Committee's chambers could turn to 'the Big 10 is in a down year so what about Oklahoma/Wash St/W. Va?'... Assuming a couple of those teams win out. And OSU ends up with 3 losses also.

BTW I'm predicting a Spartan win also. Only 'possibly' unlike you I really think it will happen. Then again maybe you think they will win and it's not your usual bluster.
If Notre Dame loses Michigan moves to third in the rankings. They can only drop if they lose.

Again, we disagree.

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