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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 28, 2020, 04:02:33 PM »2021 Knick Win Total Projections
Chip 50 +/- 22
Les 33
Facil 32
BoDid 24
Czarlos 20
BankC's 19
kiid chicken
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 06:42:27 PM »
I think I went with 34 wins after a rough maybe 2-8 start.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 05:33:13 PM »Also, the Knicks don't so much need a PG as they need a strategy to uniquely deploy the talent they had/have on this team. Players who leave usually do quite well elsewhere - maybe it ain't the players.
This is pretty funny - but you dos ee examples across the league
Campazzo of Denver and Boston's Pritchard are 2 guys who early on are being asked to stand ina corner.
Will teams let the young points point?
Yes, more or less.
The Knicks have limited talent. Instead of trying to fit square pegs in round holes take advantage of what each player does best and work on low hanging improvements to make them more complete players.
Frank doesn't have to be the long term PG, so what?
He can't be worse in the short term than what we're witnessing.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 02:44:07 PM »Which has lasted longer:
a. Knicks search for a legit pg
b. war in Afghanistan
c. war on drugs
you get the point (pun intended).
Yes Quickly will help when he is back on the court, but the Knicks need two PGs (who needs two, who needs two...). Payton is not a starting PG -period. DSJ is not an NBA backup. Franc is not a PG. I give Burks credit for pitching in, but c'mon.
It is not a secret how badly the knicks need a real starting PG. So am I wondering what Rose's - and his huge braintrust - plan is, their vision?
This situation sort of reminds me of Gettlemen's tenure with the Jints. When he came on all he talked about was improving the O line - which everyone knew was essential. And it took him three years to finally get to it. Him and his hog mollies...idiot...
Rose had cap space and picks and should have addressed the PG issue at the top, not toppin. A solution - well understanding that most top tier FAs are simply not coming to NY, maybe be creative. Bo's suggestion that drafting both Halliburton and Quickly and then unloading either DSJ or Franc, for Chip's proverbial bag of beans, is, if nothing else, creative, naively optimistic, and outside the box.
Going with Payton, DSJ, and bringing in Quickly - who can play with or off the play, is not thinking but merely going through the motions - it took no effort or deep thinking to do that.
We shoulda/coulda drafted one more player late in the draft - a shooter - any shooter (see Miami)
Payton NEVER, EVER, EVER should have been resigned. Kadeem Allen should have been retained long before that haywire idea was ever considered.
This off season, Rubio should have been traded for virtually regardless of cost Westbrook, Reggie Jackson, and a parade of minor PGs could have been signed/traded for BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO....
Also, the Knicks don't so much need a PG as they need a strategy to uniquely deploy the talent they had/have on this team. Players who leave usually do quite well elsewhere - maybe it ain't the players.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 27, 2020, 02:36:17 PM »Frank's -4.1 PER moves to.....
-8.6
ELFRID now at -4.2
Dennis a +1.8
Quickley moves to 18.6 while not playing - not sure how,
BURKS is our best PG
Seriously? You are comparing garbage time only stats to "could have made a difference" stats.
Elfrid and Dennis sure look superior to Frankie's - what - 3 minutes of nobody cares time.
Please.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 24, 2020, 02:15:09 PM »
Merry Christmas everyone.
Or, to quote James Harden, "Ho, Ho, Ho."
Or, to quote James Harden, "Ho, Ho, Ho."
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Basketball / Re: Meanwhile, Back On Planet Earth
« on: December 23, 2020, 12:58:34 PM »Ladies & Gentlemen
Your Brooklyn Nets
If we get mauled by the Nyets this season, it won't be because the game has passed Thibs by or his rotations or a reliance on Vets....
It is because we are simply outgunned.
That was absolutely terrifying.
Irving was utterly dominant, and Durant reminded me very much of Kevin Durant.
Their centerl platoon of Jordan and Allen was good for 18 rebounds.
Their snipers Harris and LaVert [Shamet was a little off] were deadly, and until they called off the hounds in the fourth, they were basically draining threes at a 50% clip.
They also played some D. Held the Warriors to 37% Shooting.
I suspect they are not going to pursue that Harden fellow and gut this team.
Interesting to see Nash function as the Chairman Of The Board, and the Nyets run a non-small ball offense, but with plenty of D'Antoni tune and tempo.
If and when we get past Saadaam Trump's 12 Plagues Of QAnon, and get people back in the house, the Barclays will be rocking.
Remember when the Mets were suddenly the toast of NYC and the Yankees were exiled in Elba?
Thibs has a lot of work to do.
The Nets is a game where you have to consider starting Frankie somewhere with Kyrie as his defensive assignment.
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Basketball / Re: Who You Gonna Believe? Kiid Or Your Eyes
« on: December 22, 2020, 02:41:26 PM »Is Lonzo better than....
Elfrid Payton
Do you have EYES?
So...
The Stats are irrelevant, eh?
And the Celtics blew it when they passed on Fultz and Ball to take Tatum.
Heh.
Lonzo will have trouble finding a home now that the Knicks have 15 PG candidates.
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Basketball / Re: CLICKBAIT [DailyKnicks]: Morons Are US
« on: December 22, 2020, 02:27:44 PM »This is clickbait.
The headline read THE KNICKS SHOULD TRADE FOR JAMES HARDEN.
OK, Red Auerbach, show us what you've got.
Knicks Get: James Harden
Rockets Get: Julius Randle, RJ Barrett, Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Knox, Mavs 2021 1st Round Pick, Knicks 2022 & 2023 1st Round Picks, Knicks 2024 1st Round Pick (Top 10 Protected)
That photo was taken in a moment of weakness.
Chip, yes, that trade is cringe-worthy stuff.
However, I don't think its unrealistic to consider Hardon in the Gardon.
Harden wouldn't come cheap so there's going to be a bite taken out of some stan's man.
We've talked about this privately but if New York suddenly became home to two NBA mega-teams in proximity to Philly's powerhouse, the area would go radioactive. It would be something akin to a new, metaphorical Twin Towers.
I'd be okay more along the lines of Randle, Bullock, Knox, MR, and the Mavs first-rounders for Harden and Kenyon Martin, Jr
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 18, 2020, 11:53:36 PM »Knicks have the picks for Harden. Let's build a hypothetical
Barrett (not saying I do it), Randle, 2 number 1s, but not our own '21.
What else?
Fuck this trade.
Barrett, Mitch, the Dallas picks
Numbers don't work without Randle.
Oh, alright then... Randle
Hey! Hey!
You want a Hardon in the Gardon you gotta pay the mon.
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 18, 2020, 11:46:25 PM »Huge cup of salt.
Coaching matters.
The level of play to get on the floor on this team suddenly seems higher that was previously understood.
Exactly
Indubitably!
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 18, 2020, 08:50:22 PM »Knicks have the picks for Harden. Let's build a hypothetical
Barrett (not saying I do it), Randle, 2 number 1s, but not our own '21.
What else?
Barrett, Mitch, the Dallas picks
Numbers don't work without Randle.
Oh, alright then... Randle
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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: December 18, 2020, 02:05:14 PM »Knicks have the picks for Harden. Let's build a hypothetical
Barrett (not saying I do it), Randle, 2 number 1s, but not our own '21.
What else?
Barrett, Mitch, the Dallas picks
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Basketball / Re: Thibs sounds a little frustrated
« on: December 16, 2020, 01:18:04 AM »
I didn't sense any frustration at all. He was just giving an NBA 101 lecture on how things get done.
That's not to say that we can't use a star - only to point out that Thibs was not advocating anything more than sound player management principles.
However and more concerning, Hahn had a FB chat tonight in which he suspects that the Knicks are committed to developing DSJ and Randall (at least until further notice). It appears that Thibs and co. have put in quite a bit of sweat equity in these guys and want to see it through.