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2026

Basketball / Jay Wright

« on: February 17, 2020, 10:19:36 AM »

Rose / Cho  / Wright

2027

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 17, 2020, 09:49:36 AM »

You don't pass on a guy like RJ Barrett because you took a Kevin Knox last season.  99% of young players drafted into the NBA struggle in their teenage years playing against grown veterans.  So rather than say it was a mistake to take a poor defending rookie after drafting a poor defending rookie one season ago  (Wasn't Frank our defensive investment a year prior?)  for RJ and Kevin lets try to project how strong this DUO will be in 2-3 years.  They already have NBA bodies.  Now they need to work on skills like team defense and passing and rebounding ... skills they weren't known for in High School because they were hoop getters only.

I feel bullish on this duo.  If RJ's future is at the 3, why can't Knox be a stretchy 4?  We're going away from positions anyway.  Teams need guys who on offense can space and guys who can drive.  Knox does both.  He needs to keep getting stronger so when on defense he can push off opposing players the positions on the court where they flourish.  Zion he is not, but even Giannis had the ball yanked away from him when Zion flexed.  I think we should not have signed Portis and instead given all those minutes to Kevin.

I love this vision, but it's loony in its unfounded optimism. How much of Knox do you need to see? There are lots of young guys throughout the league who snag our attention. They might not have developed a complete game yet, but they do certain things impressively, fiercely. Sometimes it impacts a game right away; other times, it's just glimpses that make you wonder what kind of force they'll be in the future.

Where do you see that with Knox?

Right now, he's simple struggling to have a decent NBA career. This idea that he might one day be a star, or even a starter, requires more than just "getting stronger." Yeah, he's still super young. But we've seen enough to know that, at this point, the odds are not in his favor.

He is 20.5 years of age.  Let him grow.   He showed flashes last season of his uber-athleticism (Knicks never have any gazelles and here we have one) and he has shown this year that he can be a team player, throwing lobs and swatting shots.  I don't see the rush to judge him as a bust while we give the older Ntilikina every benefit of any and all doubt.

2028

Basketball / Priority #1 find a PG

« on: February 16, 2020, 10:07:37 PM »

With Rose’s consultation, the Knicks went hard after Golden State scoring point guard D’Angelo Russell at the trade deadline 10 days ago but came up empty. Russell wound up in Minnesota and the Knicks will have to continue their search in the offseason.

2029

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 16, 2020, 03:47:59 PM »

You don't pass on a guy like RJ Barrett because you took a Kevin Knox last season.  99% of young players drafted into the NBA struggle in their teenage years playing against grown veterans.  So rather than say it was a mistake to take a poor defending rookie after drafting a poor defending rookie one season ago  (Wasn't Frank our defensive investment a year prior?)  for RJ and Kevin lets try to project how strong this DUO will be in 2-3 years.  They already have NBA bodies.  Now they need to work on skills like team defense and passing and rebounding ... skills they weren't known for in High School because they were hoop getters only.

I feel bullish on this duo.  If RJ's future is at the 3, why can't Knox be a stretchy 4?  We're going away from positions anyway.  Teams need guys who on offense can space and guys who can drive.  Knox does both.  He needs to keep getting stronger so when on defense he can push off opposing players the positions on the court where they flourish.  Zion he is not, but even Giannis had the ball yanked away from him when Zion flexed.  I think we should not have signed Portis and instead given all those minutes to Kevin.

2030

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 14, 2020, 01:20:19 PM »

  the Knicks fly in and out of Westchester County Airport as opposed to one of the major airports in the New York/New Jersey area. Players who live in Westchester can drive themselves home in about 10 minutes after road trips, according to a source.

While the drive from Westchester to the Garden can be difficult during rush hour, having an easier commute from the airport to home or home to the practice facility is a counterbalance.

Though they could fly in/out LaGuardia,  but that place used to always be a mess.
Small airports are nice.

Well its 41 home games a year driving home vs.....  a lot fewer than 41 nights driving home from the airport. 
And young players don't want to live in Westchester.  That is the assumption made that being near Westchester airport is so great.  For whom?  The real housewives of NY?

2031

Basketball / Meanwhile the "MSG Training Center" is located in Tarrytown

« on: February 14, 2020, 12:37:08 PM »

With today's professional athletes having to compete at a higher level than ever before, the New York Rangers and Knicks began training year-round in the state-of-the-art Madison Square Garden Training Center in Tarrytown, New York in September 2002. This facility is another proactive element of the organizations' continuing commitment towards supplying Madison Square Garden sports fans with the most competitive teams in their respective leagues.

The Madison Square Garden Training Center offers the Rangers and Knicks the opportunity to utilize the best equipment, the best training regimen, the best environment - to elevate their performances when they open their respective schedules in the NHL, NBA and WNBA. The 105,000 square-foot facility, set on 16 acres of private land in Westchester County, is equipped with well-appointed private areas and office space, exercise rooms with dedicated equipment for each team, the latest technology and first-class amenities.

The facility features two basketball courts and one NHL regulation-sized hockey rink. Each team's area within the Madison Square Garden Training Center includes:

1,800 square-foot complete cardiovascular and weight room
Steam rooms, whirlpool and cold plunge
Gated parking lots located adjacent to a private entrance into the players' lounge
Tiered classrooms with high-back theater style seating
State of the art video editing rooms
Coach's loung/offices

The training center also features amenities to be shared by all teams, including a Hydro Worx 1000 aquatic therapy pool, a dining room with seating for 40 people and auxiliary locker rooms which can be utilized for visiting teams in need of additional practice time during their stay in New York.

Media accommodations include dedicated media rooms and workstations, pre-wired for phone and Internet access, an interview room for one-on-one or small group interviews, as well as cabled locations for remote broadcasts. The basketball courts and hockey rink are all equipped with dedicated seating for attending media.

2032

Basketball / Re: The Knicks Brand

« on: February 14, 2020, 12:32:25 PM »

DeAndre Jordan, another survivor of Mills' KP trade, wonders aloud as to how cheap the rent must be in Westchester.

Mr. Dolan.

You hired a branding specialist,  who turned out to be the latest in a string of lightweights. 

Rose?

Want to attract top free agents?

If I was making 20 million dollars a year, I might very well like to get a hip Manhattan apartment in a building with a gym.  I might not like to commute one hour to and one hour from our Westchester County practice facility, preferring to use those two hours to, oh, I don't know, play with my kids...TAKE A FUCKING NAP before game time at the Garden.

I mean....DUH.

It's weird that Dolan can't find a gym in the city.  All these Colleges here with teams.  Not one wants to let the Knicks use their gym twice a week?

https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/nets-deandre-jordan-on-knicks-practice-facility-the-rent-must-be-cheap-out-there/312759222

2033

Basketball / Out thinking the masses

« on: February 14, 2020, 12:18:54 PM »

Kid gets it.

Taj,  Elf,  Franc,  Jr.  Smith, Knox,  RJB,  Bullox, possibly a resigned Hark.
We'll have plenty of contracts between $4M - $10M to swing deals.

I'm not trading all that young low priced talent.  I'm trying to trade bloated expirings.

Elling+Portis+filler and you can get an All-Star on a big contract who needs a new team.

Or just let them go and don't re-fill that space with a mid-tier player who takes you out of the 2021 summer signing season.

2034

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 14, 2020, 10:42:53 AM »

Drop Portis & Ell and that's an extra $23M to play with.

OR exercise their team options and thats an extra $20-$30mil in salary you can take back in trade.  You're assuming there's $23mil worth of FA out there that want to come here.  FA won't work.  Sign a 23mil guy (who you'll probably have to overpay to come here lets be real) now you're stuck with an overpaid 23mil guy for the full length of his deal.  BUT if you trade for someone else's overpaid bad-fit at least there will be fewer years on the deal and you're not limited to this off-season crop of dubious talent.

TRADES BO!  TRADES!

Or just let Ellington and Taj expire after next season for that year's FAs.  Do the least harm.

2035

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 14, 2020, 10:40:35 AM »

Have to say I'm impressed you guys are already so up on FA's and the Knix salary structure.
I'm barely past our underwhelming trade season.

You're slippin. 

2036

Basketball / Re: Gordon Hayward

« on: February 14, 2020, 10:39:26 AM »

The Earthly Remains Of The Second #1 pick the Knicks ponied up on the Stephon Marbury trade. 

Another great mystery in Knicks Pisstory.

You go, Gordon. 

PS: Tatum makes me reflect on Reggie Lewis.

Because Gordon Heywad worked out so great for Utah.

2037

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 12, 2020, 10:49:48 PM »

Smith Jr. with 3 turnovers in a minute.

I mean, Jesus.

Jesus saves.   The ball.   DSJ is more like one of those bizarre fallen angels.  All the wings, but no halo.

Perimeter players have no fucking clue where to go when Dennis drives

In my imagination i can construct a team where DSJ could be the PG.  But that team can't have other high turnover guys on it like Randle.  DSJ is a high usage/high turnover guy in the mold of (but not nearly as good as) Russell Westbrook or Trae Young.  You can't have a high usage/high turnover guy and win chips, but you can have one and make the playoffs.  You can't have more than one though.  Randle + DSJ = Sloppy BBALL.

2038

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 12, 2020, 10:47:09 PM »

Oh yeah, most definitely.

He was magnificent with those turnovers.

Just a wondrous thing to behold!

Lol.  It's come to this.  Like Franks good misses.

But i'll say this: DSJ's turnovers are more harmful than Frank's missed shots.

2039

Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: February 12, 2020, 08:18:43 PM »

Smith Jr. with 3 turnovers in a minute.

I mean, Jesus.

Jesus saves.   The ball.   DSJ is more like one of those bizarre fallen angels.  All the wings, but no halo.

2040

Basketball / Moe Harkless

« on: February 12, 2020, 08:16:25 PM »

Makes his first shot. Nothing but net.  Next time down the floor he is drawing a double team! 

As a St Johnnie he's got MSG in his DNA.