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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 08, 2020, 08:48:08 PM »
Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.
No. The surplus of guards is not an advantage to player development.

Do you really want Smith taking Frank's time?

I'm not stuck on the "Frank or die" trip a lotta knick fans are on.  Dennis has his own potential too. Elfrid is playing great.  Let's not play favorites.

2057
Basketball / Dubs win
« on: February 08, 2020, 12:38:14 PM »
It was a terrific trade for GS.  They got a guy (former #1 blah blah blah) who is clearly a better fit than Russell would be when Steph and Klay both return.  Wiggins is no KD, but with the Splash Bros, Draymond, and Wiggy they're loaded once more.  Oh yeah, they also get a probably lotto pick.  Amazing.    KD was going to leave for nothing, and they get a lotto pick and Wiggins out of it.

2058
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 08, 2020, 11:43:46 AM »
Begley is a bit off key on Russell deal.  It would have taken this year's #1. not just "at least one number one", as he stated.

Maybe Mitch,  Portis,  Franc would have done it.

Or Morris + role players.  MaMo a much better fit for GS and they could resign him for less than Wiggins makes.

So might have been ways to work it without a pick.  Or with a DAL pick in there.

Golden State wouldn't own bird rights on Mamo.  He would've left for nothing.  They don't have the cap space.

2059
Basketball / Knicks
« on: February 08, 2020, 12:39:43 AM »
Knicks did all the right things this week.  Reflected in their record on and off the court.

2060
Basketball / The trade that never was
« on: February 08, 2020, 12:36:19 AM »
per Ian Begley
https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/knicks-notes-how-much-progress-team-made-on-potential-dangelo-russell-deal/312678986
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A few post-trade deadline notes:

News of the Knicks agreeing in principle with new team president Leon Rose broke hours before Thursday's trade deadline. It's unclear how, if at all, that impacted the Knicks' approach at the deadline. But the firing of ex-team president Steve Mills certainly changed their thinking.

Earlier in the week, before Mills was reassigned to another role at Madison Square Garden, members of the Knicks organization felt that they had made significant progress toward a trade for D'Angelo Russell. It's unclear what package was on the table, but one offer included Bobby Portis, Allonzo Trier and Frank Ntilikina, per sources. The Knicks obviously would have had to include at least one first-round pick. Before Mills was let go, they were willing to do that. Afterward, it was about making deals with the future in mind.

Which is why they traded Marcus Morris for the package they got back, which included a 2020 first-round draft pick. New York now has seven first-round picks in the next four years. That's a strong cache of assets for Rose and his front office to work with.

One of the Knicks' goals on Thursday was to keep enough assets post-deadline to be in position to trade for a disgruntled superstar, if one becomes available.

They did that. Though it seems the potential for a young star to be disgruntled took a bit of a hit on Thursday when Golden State traded Russell to Minnesota.


New York also explored deals for several other players, including Portis, but obviously nothing came to fruition before the deadline. Earlier in the week, they talked to Indiana about a trade that involved Aaron Holiday and Marcus Morris, but there was no traction because the Pacers, per sources, preferred a player in return that would remain with them beyond this season. Morris is a free agent this summer.

With regards to Morris, the Knicks were hesitant to send Morris to the Lakers in any deal that didn't bring back Kyle Kuzma. They also wanted Landry Shamet in a Clippers deal, but Los Angeles never considered moving Shamet.

Support for Hornets deal
Prior to Mills getting reassigned, there was internal support for a trade package with Charlotte that would have sent Dennis Smith Jr. to the Hornets and landed Malik Monk in New York. Once Mills was reassigned, the club shifted its thinking on that deal and the Russell deal. Now, the focus is on developing young players, filling out the front office and coaching staff for 2020 and deciding which veterans to keep and which to let go.

2061
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 07, 2020, 11:59:53 AM »
Cheer up Bo. Somehow we can still win some games.

http://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/2/6/21127528/nba-trade-deadline-grades

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The Knicks … made a good trade? Moving Morris without taking on future salary and landing a first-round pick in the process was probably the best possible outcome here, even if the pick will land toward the bottom of the first round. The pick swap is more for posterity than anything, as nary a universe exists where the Knicks will draft lower than the Clippers next season. Still, now is not the time to take shots at the Knicks, who have established the lowest possible bar at past deadlines. This is a good return, this is a fair return, and this is the right direction to take.

Grade: B

2062
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 07, 2020, 11:22:50 AM »
You typed 4 points and you contradicted your first point ("I would have traded Randle") with your last point ("it was reasonable to keep Randle".)

Point #2.  Did portland have any interest?  I didn't hear about any deals.  You're gaslighting us.

Point #3.  You don't get premium pieces for a rental.

Back to your first point, if you want to sign Morris for 4yrs/70 guess what... offer that to him this summer.   

2063
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 07, 2020, 10:05:18 AM »

So a Mohark rental, a very late 1st (28th or so),  DET's fairly high 2nd.    Circa 36th.


We likely just got nothing useful for our best player, who top playoff teams were drooling to add.   Combined with the rare top-exec firing two days before the trade deadline.  Another great week for Dolan!

Our best player that you don't even want to re-sign for the 4 years it will take to sign him. You're all over the place.  You love Morris but don't wanna re-sign him this offseason. But you trash the knicks for getting something for a guy you DONT WANT.  Crybaby knicks fan!!!

2064
Basketball / Re: You had to be prepared for this
« on: February 07, 2020, 10:02:00 AM »

 Morris has a chance to extend the Clips a round or two,  and as long as they stay healthy should have just guaranteed conference finals with a good shot at the Finals.   For that turboboost, Knix got little. I had been aiming for Simonize and Portland's circa 16 pick.


How you gonna get a lot for a turboboost of the Clippers by sending him to Portland?
Do you know if Portland even wanted him?  There was zero talk.  You just make stuff up.

2065
Basketball / Re: Elfrid was indeed fine.
« on: February 06, 2020, 10:43:04 PM »

Speaking of cutting, I was really going to suggest cutting Ellington and then he hit two momentous three-pointers. I still suggest cutting Ellington.

Randle and all the recent lotto picks will be here.

Definitely don't bring back:
Ellington (Team option), Portis (Team option), Trier (Free Agent)

Consider bringing back unless better options present themselves:
Taj (Team option), Bullock (Bullock), Dotson (Free Agent)

Bring back:
Elfrid (Team option)

That frees up some 24 mil (Wayne and Bobby's options).


2066
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 06, 2020, 10:35:33 PM »
Note to Knix: Play fucking better ...

Note to Kam: Just need to go 6-5 and that prediction will be spot on ...

Note to Bo: Could you update us now?

2067
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 06, 2020, 10:30:30 PM »
Payton with a magnificent game tonight.

He's a keeper for next year.  Even if we draft a PG.

2068
Basketball / Wayne Ellington
« on: February 06, 2020, 09:48:35 PM »
Big three pt makes, turned the game around

2069
Basketball / Elf is good
« on: February 06, 2020, 08:51:07 PM »
Payton with 6 pts and 5 steals at the half

2070
Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: February 06, 2020, 08:14:42 PM »
Keep Frank at the 2. I like it.

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