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1  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: Today at 11:15:47 AM

No, seriously, dude. You need help. You keep that anger going on inside you, eventually it will turn inward, and you'll be doing the Bordaine/Spade thing.

Get help.

And learn to handle valid criticism of your posts; just because you feel agrieved it doesn't mean you actually are.

Keep blaming others for your unhappiness, and you'll always be unhappy.

And I want you to be well.

So, please. Get some help.

It's almost always the biggest troll on the website who starts telling people to seek professional help and make faux-solicitous statements of concern for your health.  
2  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: Today at 11:14:12 AM
Reposted from Bart's post, so that Kid can read this and honestly appraise his sentiments about Trump, especially as somehow superior to Clinton in terms of word choices.  And Kid, you should not censor other members.  That's like a child (or kid, heh) sticking their fingers in their ears and going lalalalala I can't hearrrrr youuuuu!  

President Trump on Friday morning observed that Fox & Friends was filming on the White House lawn and announced that he would make an “unannounced visit” down to speak with his favorite morning cable show.

During the resulting chat with host Steve Doocy, the president repeatedly and lavishly praised North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, with whom he met earlier this week, remarking: “He’s the head of a country—and I mean he’s the strong head. He speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same.”  

Sit up in attention!  Roll over!  Play dead!  (except of course they're not playing dead in NK, and in fact have been worked to death in labor camps, assassinated, shot to pieces by antiaircraft guns, deliberately starved, etc.)

Your Pavlov dog comment seems to beg the question.  Ha, I can't stop myself!

3  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 16, 2018, 12:07:34 PM
It's not like it's a gorgeous Saturday in June (pretty much everywhere in the continental U.S.), so yes, let's spend the day correcting Redstateward's grammar and helping him with vocabulary issues.

The firing of Rob Rogers seems typical of the ongoing collapse of independent journalism to corporate control.  Editorials reflect the opinion of the paper.  Political cartoons, not so much, nor are they meant to.  Humor, to work, requires the potential for transgression and generally being out of line.  The publisher in Pittburg is a fucking idiot.

4  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 13, 2018, 08:19:37 PM
De Niro was to that room what John McCain or Jeff Flake of Trey Gowdy (fuck him too!) are to the Republican party. People that aren't interested in getting re-elected and can feel as though they can speak truth to power. The people in that room are (generally) still working on their career. Robert De Niro has and has had his career. He is free to "Swing Away" (as I suddenly hear OilCanBoyd the NYT incarnation pissed people off by saying.)
  -- DredRobert

I have reason to believe that earlier can man was referencing the role of faded glory baseball star Jouaquin Phoeanix in the cinema masterpiece "Signs. "  That venerable Jungian Rubik cube of a film has made "swing away" the motto of an entire lost generation.  I put in extra vowels,  so readers may select the proper ones to spell out the noted actor,  as I'm never sure which go where.


Edward Boyd, 17th Earl of Bartonville

5  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 13, 2018, 08:12:40 PM
"How fares our cousin Hamlet?"

"Excellent, in faith, of the chameleon’s dish. I eat the air, promise-crammed. You cannot feed capons so."

(just giving proper attribution to Boz's quote from Edward deVere,  Earl of Oxford....)

(ha! JK.   It was Will Shakespeare of course.   Meaning a collaboration between Francis Bacon,  Christopher Marlowe,  and William Stanley Earl of Derby,  of course.)

You are fucking dead to me.

Tehe.  Though I am, in sooth, a Stratfordian,  I was interested to read somewhere that the anti-Stratfordians have found a total of 81 candidates for their bard replacement list.   These people need to get a life. Fun fact: four of the articles are mine. See if you can guess which ones.

A bit of difficulty navigating all the 404 potholes and branching menus,  but I would not be surprised if the Alan Konigsberg skeptic article were yours.   Very funny stuff,  I will probably go back and have a better look.   Shawshank page,  also?   
6  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 07, 2018, 12:15:24 PM
Ad hominem sweet hominem!

This made me laugh:

On Monday , The Post broke the news that a government aide to Pruitt, President Trump’s EPA administrator, contacted the Trump International Hotel in Washington in hopes of snagging a used Trump Home Luxury Plush Euro Pillow Top mattress , on which Pruitt could rest his weary body after long days ignoring environmental protections.

On Tuesday, the same Post trio — Juliet Eilperin, Brady Dennis and Josh Dawsey — reported that Pruitt also had a government staffer arrange a phone call with Chick-fil-A executives to discuss “a potential business opportunity” — having Pruitt’s wife run a franchise of the fast-food joint.

This is a tragic case of low self-esteem.

Pruitt could be shaking down corporate polluters for tens of millions of dollars — and he’s trying to use his influence to get a deal on a used Trump mattress that costs $1,750 new? He could get so many sweetheart deals from those he regulates that his wife would never have to work again — and he’s using pull so she can sell $3.99 chicken sandwiches?

Pruitt’s problem isn’t that he’s corrupt; it’s that he isn’t corrupt enough. He could be thrashing with the big gators in the swamp, but he’s lounging with larvae in a mud puddle. Pruitt should abandon his penny-ante corruption and get rich the way others do in Trump’s Washington.

7  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 05, 2018, 01:16:39 PM
The Supreme Court has ruled on the Masterpiece Cake case — and on the surface, it would appear to be a loss for L.G.B.T.Q. Americans. The justices ruled 7 to 2 that the Colorado Civil Rights Commission violated the religious freedom of a baker, Jack Phillips, when it sanctioned him for refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, Charlie Craig and David Mullins, in 2012.

“The commission’s hostility was inconsistent with the First Amendment’s guarantee that our laws be applied in a manner that is neutral toward religion,” Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote for the majority.

In spite of this, the ruling is relatively narrow. “The outcome of cases like this in other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts,” Justice Kennedy wrote, “all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue disrespect to sincere religious beliefs, and without subjecting gay persons to indignities when they seek goods and services in an open market.”

In other words, while Masterpiece is a loss for L.G.B.T.Q. people, the question of how to balance religious freedom with the rights of queer people remains unresolved, and will most likely continue to be explored and debated in the future, and by the Supreme Court not least.

And this, more than the case itself, is the greater loss for L.G.B.T.Q. people. We lose when our rights are considered debatable. Even if the Supreme Court had ruled unanimously against the baker, in fact, L.G.B.T.Q. Americans would still be considered second-class citizens in many aspects of civic life.

I find the "further elaboration" to be sort of baffling.  I guess the justices did too, so they kicked it up the road a ways. 

With other sorts of rights, this conflict doesn't seem to be as pressing.  I haven't heard about a custom pie maker who is Hindu and is asked to custom make a meat pie.  If a state panel decided that he was discriminating by refusing to make a pie with sacred cow in it -- well, my point is, that wouldn't happen because no one is talking about carnivores as a social group that needs protection.  Vegan pie makers just make fruit pies or tofu pies or whatever sells.  But a cake maker has all the tools at hand to make any kind of wedding cake, and is not violating his moral code by using sugar and shortening.  Making the cake doesn't imply any approval of what the customer does with it.  When they walk out the door, you are done with that cake.  Generally, people of any sexual persuasion tend to do the same thing with a cake:  eat it.  It isn't signed, like a Picasso.  If I sell a can of peas to a gay couple, and I'm a conservative Christian, no one is thinking my religion is infringed upon.  Even if they take the peas home and serve them at their wedding reception.

So it really comes down to those two figurines on the top of the cake, right?  What else could be the sticking point?  So why couldn't he just hand them a sack with two figurines in it and say, "the rest I leave up to you."  I figure the vegan pie maker would probably take the same approach.  Make the pie, add the vegetables and spices, and hand it over:  you guys can add whatever other ingredient you want and then heat in the oven at 375 for a half hour.  I don't handle meat.

8  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 27, 2018, 01:46:41 PM
Probably not paranoid for members who are told it's okay to presume they are in favor of rape and other sexual misconduct, to view that as trolling.   

People pushing back against such an insulting and dishonest imputation are painted as suffering from an "inability to accept criticism. " 

You are one of the worst trolls I've ever seen.   You tell people that they are angry,  as if it's some crippling syndrome,  after you have worked tirelessly to provoke it.   Actually anger can be a perfectly healthy and normal emotion... It's what you do with it that matters.   Most here get pissed at you,  then realize it's wasted,  and move on to ignoring you.

Facility at least tried to clear up your misunderstanding, but he had no chance because you are insanely entrenched in your troll perspective.


And LOL that you think calling everyone "Mr. " or omitting capital letters somehow conceals your prior identity. 
9  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 25, 2018, 11:52:30 AM

List - a good refresher course in all abuses of the office of potus.

10  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 22, 2018, 03:26:47 PM
Should we be expecting a shortening of the Washington Monument then?
11  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 18, 2018, 11:51:37 AM
Thought!  Prayers!  Meditation!  Navel lint examination!   Woohoo!
12  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 14, 2018, 11:54:11 AM
And the award for passive-aggressive avoidance of debate goes to....

It's naive at best to think that dismantling a nuke design program is the path to dismantling existing nukes in stock.  Or the path to actual human rights improvements for NK citizens.  Kim is getting everything he wants, including recognition as a legitimate ruler of NK by the POTUS. 

This whole thing is a circus act designed to take our minds off slush funds, payoffs, influence peddling to Russians, and fourteen different kinds of corrupt dealing. 
13  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 11, 2018, 12:55:49 PM
Kid Carter, a GOP robot, spotted running through park!
14  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 10, 2018, 11:34:43 AM

Cotton was great today in the Senate confirmation hearings.

Kamala Harris on the other hand was a fanged harpie out for a midday catch.

Hint - she  came up quite empty.

Both assessments seem absurdly partisan.  Cotton was rude and vicious, and spoke out of turn and then refused to stop when gaveled out of order.  He used his question time to wave a partisan flag, rather than ask illuminating questions.  He's the angry partisan who talked Trump out of the bipartisan agreement on immigration.  He called Durbin and Graham liars when they reported Trump's "shithole countries" remark.  He wrote to Iran to urge them not to negotiate with Obama, who was our President at the time.  As partisan hatchet man, he blocked confirmation of Cassandra Butts, her being a friend of Obama.  He hurls insults and accusations of evil at anyone who disagrees with him.  As someone recently noted, he is more hated in the Senate than Ted Cruz.  As for Harris, she has reservations about torturing prisoners.  Wow, what a harpie, having, like, some kind of conscience and caring about what kind of nation we are. 

You are a troll.  And the kind of troll who really is unencumbered by the process of thought or getting all the facts.

I leave you with Obama's comment on Cotton's (and the other signers of the letter) treacherous 2015 letter to the Ayatollah of Iran:

"I'm embarrassed for them. For them to address a letter to the Ayatollah – the Supreme Leader of Iran, who they claim is our mortal enemy – and their basic argument to them is: don't deal with our President, 'cause you can't trust him to follow through on an agreement ... That's close to unprecedented." 

You should question the character of someone who would subvert sensitive negotiations on such a matter, in order to score partisan points.

15  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: May 04, 2018, 05:22:38 PM

May 5 is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Karl Marx the philosopher who proposed a state where no private property is allowed, no inheritances, confiscatory progressive taxes, etc.

Exactly why my Lutheran ancestors left Prussia in the mid 1800s.

Because Karl had just published his manifesto and they could see 70 years into the future as to how the workers revolution would play out?  Just trying to follow here...
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