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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 10:47:32 PM »

Seems no one here cares about the Va Beach massacre either. 
(Not a "white supremacist" that perpetrated, so no comment)

Witness your deep discussion of it and the link you posted, how much you care is evident.

So, care to tell us about this workplace tragedy?

Care to discuss the role of firearms in it, if any?

How about whether the shooter was a person of color or not?

Yes, it was a tragedy.  We need to figure out how to alleviate it, without installing Bambi-ignorance at every doorway.

Have any suggestions?

Airport-style security is the only way you'll stop it.
Guns get into the workplace, anyone can shoot anyone else anytime.
Workplaces, schools, places of worship, anywhere people are sitting ducks.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 08:54:20 PM »

If deputies are going to be held accountable for deaths in school shootings, and sentenced to 102 years in prison because of inaction as bullets are flying inside...their own death mostly likely certain...then they must be attired in SWAT gear, and security systems/physical barriers installed to stop guns being taken into schools.

In hindsight, he might think he should've gone in...because if he didn't he'd be dead anyway by the time they'd be finished with him.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/florida-deputy-charged-for-inaction-during-parkland-shooting/ar-AACoE6n?OCID=AVRES000

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 08:35:30 PM »

Seems no one here cares about the Va Beach massacre either. 
(Not a "white supremacist" that perpetrated, so no comment)

Could be.
Should never have been allowed to take a gun into the workplace.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 08:34:20 PM »

Statutory is the max. Customarily defendants get less unless they get pegged with something really egregious.

The lesson I got from the Aussie model story was that if you go to an Aussie doctor, he or she will try to medicate you into violent black-out fits. Very disappointing. They probably need more refugee immigrants in their med schools.

Much of bambuland country seems to be depressed and on Prozac or similar. No wonder, there's a long list of reasons. 

It’s because of your #1 radio host.

Nah, he's trying to do something about it...words of wisdom he speaks.

. Mortgage stress.
. Jobs being sent overseas at express pace by large corporations.
. Jobs being lost because of greedy companies wanting to make exorbitant profits.
. Jobs being lost to automation...large distribution centres are all being automated.
. 'Waltzing matilda' will soon be the norm, as millions of unemployed 'swagpeople' roam the countryside like Johhny Rambo did. [cop wouldn't even let him into town to have a meal.]
. Electricity prices totally ridiculous...'climate change' subsidies ...baaah. Used to be 'global warming', then when they realised the globe heats and cools itself they changed it to 'climate change'.
. Stagnant wages, increasing prices.
. etc
. No places like Waco Texas, where you can get a good job and a very nice home for $250,000.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 05:55:50 AM »

Details of the Mornyang case:

https://www.scribd.com/document/403161151/USA-v-Adau-Akui-Atem-Mornyang-for-drunken-behavior-on-United-Airlines-and-assaulting-Flight-Marshal

Interesting.
"Strong Black woman"?  "racist"?  "White"?   hmmm, seems she's been listening to the wrong people...or absorbing the wrong messages from writings.

Maybe more than two glasses of alcohol...prescription drugs...it was never going to end well.
The air marshals seem to have been a lot too nice.
She should've been restrained long before she was, IMO.
Also, when the AMs were taking her from the bathroom they should've tied her ankles together so she couldn't kick them in the chest.
A Velcro type ankles wrap should be part of their 'shackle' equipment.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 05:21:53 AM »

Statutory is the max. Customarily defendants get less unless they get pegged with something really egregious.

The lesson I got from the Aussie model story was that if you go to an Aussie doctor, he or she will try to medicate you into violent black-out fits. Very disappointing. They probably need more refugee immigrants in their med schools.

Much of bambuland country seems to be depressed and on Prozac or similar. No wonder, there's a long list of reasons.
Don't give patients a prescription for something, they 'won't' return, will find a doctor who will,...no matter the doctor's ethnicity/country of origin.
Plenty of 'bulk-billing'[the federal govt] medical centres around. Plenty of doctors. Free consultations for patients.
Maybe model didn't read the instructions on the Prozac and Oxycodone packets...and use as doctor prescribed.
Maybe she read them but forgot...swept up in the drama of the trip to America.

One of the side effects of Prozac is 'strange dreams'. Maybe she thought she was back in Africa about to be murdered in her sleep.
Who knows.
Yes, I know..."personal responsibility"...on her to get things right.
"America is a sovereign nation with its own laws and cultures"..."break the law in America and you are subject to those laws."

She's 24 years old.
Surely they won't take away the rest of her twenties, all of her thirties, and half of her forties.

 

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2019, 12:59:07 AM »

Speaking of 'refugees';

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/aussie-models-shock-move-to-have-flight-assault-case-thrown-out/news-story/326832e88970c19a8b3c41a04968f057

An Australian model facing a potential 21-year jail sentence in the US for allegedly assaulting a flight attendant on a plane to Los Angeles has asked a Californian judge to toss her conviction.

Adau Akui Atem Mornyang will be sentenced in the US District Court in Los Angeles on June 24.

Ms Mornyang has enjoyed significant modelling success since moving to Australia as a refugee at the age of 10, including serving as a global campaign face for Sephora in 2016, a Miss World Victorian finalist in 2017 and Miss World Australia finalist and recently walked the runway at New York Fashion Week.

She said the incident had ruined her career.

Ms Mornyang’s US legal team told Judge Cormac Carney a jury convicted the model at a trial in March after prosecutors relied on “an inflammatory audiotape that purported to depict Ms Mornyang screaming racial slurs and obscenities”.

South Sudanese-born Ms Mornyang was convicted of a felony charge of interference with a United Airlines flight crew member and misdemeanour assault.
Melbourne-based Mornyang, 24, faces a statutory maximum sentence of 21 years in US federal prison.
Prosecutors said Ms Mornyang, during the January 21 Melbourne to LA flight, ordered “several alcoholic beverages”.

Earlier this year Ms Mornyang denied she had attacked anyone and described the episode as “an ordeal” that she did not remember after having mixed prescription drugs with alcohol to sleep during the flight.

“I was not intoxicated because I had only two glasses of wine during dinner service, requested a seat move and slept for what I believe to have been eight hours, just to wake up five hours and five minutes before landing to an arrest.

“Did I take my Prozac and oxycodone before the flight? Yes I did. But I was not drunk before boarding.”

Even though passengers on that flight and other flight attendants said there was never a slap, the evidence was ignored and they decided to believe (the flight attendant),” she said in a text message.

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Alcohol should be banned on planes.....as cockpit cabin doors should always be locked.

Hardly a terrorist.
Maybe she heard the alleged racial slurs and obscenities in Hollywood movies.

21 years in US federal prison for that?...allegedly screaming a few racial slurs and obscenities, and a hugely doubtful misdemeanour assault.
Now there's an absolute outrage.

Not 21 months in prison...but 21 YEARS!

Wont happen.  I dont believe she will do any time at all.

Thanks for bringing the case to light here

Thanks for your reply.

Does 'statutory' mean 'mandatory'?

Seemingly she did wrong...and people can't be doing things like that on planes. Extenuating circumstances though, IMO.
She's been convicted...so that looks like that.
21 years mandatory, she's finished.
It says 'potential sentence', so maybe it's not mandatory.
Maybe she could clean the White House with a toothbrush for a time, instead of many years in federal prison.
Federal prison is a very bad place to be?   not like the jail Paris was in?

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 03, 2019, 10:32:15 PM »

Speaking of 'refugees';

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/aussie-models-shock-move-to-have-flight-assault-case-thrown-out/news-story/326832e88970c19a8b3c41a04968f057

An Australian model facing a potential 21-year jail sentence in the US for allegedly assaulting a flight attendant on a plane to Los Angeles has asked a Californian judge to toss her conviction.

Adau Akui Atem Mornyang will be sentenced in the US District Court in Los Angeles on June 24.

Ms Mornyang has enjoyed significant modelling success since moving to Australia as a refugee at the age of 10, including serving as a global campaign face for Sephora in 2016, a Miss World Victorian finalist in 2017 and Miss World Australia finalist and recently walked the runway at New York Fashion Week.

She said the incident had ruined her career.

Ms Mornyang’s US legal team told Judge Cormac Carney a jury convicted the model at a trial in March after prosecutors relied on “an inflammatory audiotape that purported to depict Ms Mornyang screaming racial slurs and obscenities”.

South Sudanese-born Ms Mornyang was convicted of a felony charge of interference with a United Airlines flight crew member and misdemeanour assault.
Melbourne-based Mornyang, 24, faces a statutory maximum sentence of 21 years in US federal prison.
Prosecutors said Ms Mornyang, during the January 21 Melbourne to LA flight, ordered “several alcoholic beverages”.

Earlier this year Ms Mornyang denied she had attacked anyone and described the episode as “an ordeal” that she did not remember after having mixed prescription drugs with alcohol to sleep during the flight.

“I was not intoxicated because I had only two glasses of wine during dinner service, requested a seat move and slept for what I believe to have been eight hours, just to wake up five hours and five minutes before landing to an arrest.

“Did I take my Prozac and oxycodone before the flight? Yes I did. But I was not drunk before boarding.”

Even though passengers on that flight and other flight attendants said there was never a slap, the evidence was ignored and they decided to believe (the flight attendant),” she said in a text message.

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Alcohol should be banned on planes.....as cockpit cabin doors should always be locked.

Hardly a terrorist.
Maybe she heard the alleged racial slurs and obscenities in Hollywood movies.

21 years in US federal prison for that?...allegedly screaming a few racial slurs and obscenities, and a hugely doubtful misdemeanour assault.
Now there's an absolute outrage.

Not 21 months in prison...but 21 YEARS!

Oh look, another Aussie being an asshole. Fuck them all.

More like stay away from America if this is what can happen to you!

Gee, you take some prescription medication, have a couple of drinks with dinner, flail your arms about and scream a few racial slurs and obscenities ...and you get locked away in federal prison for 21 years.
Not even "dumb, drunk, racist and backward" bambuland has laws like that.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 03, 2019, 08:13:35 PM »

Speaking of 'refugees';

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/aussie-models-shock-move-to-have-flight-assault-case-thrown-out/news-story/326832e88970c19a8b3c41a04968f057

An Australian model facing a potential 21-year jail sentence in the US for allegedly assaulting a flight attendant on a plane to Los Angeles has asked a Californian judge to toss her conviction.

Adau Akui Atem Mornyang will be sentenced in the US District Court in Los Angeles on June 24.

Ms Mornyang has enjoyed significant modelling success since moving to Australia as a refugee at the age of 10, including serving as a global campaign face for Sephora in 2016, a Miss World Victorian finalist in 2017 and Miss World Australia finalist and recently walked the runway at New York Fashion Week.

She said the incident had ruined her career.

Ms Mornyang’s US legal team told Judge Cormac Carney a jury convicted the model at a trial in March after prosecutors relied on “an inflammatory audiotape that purported to depict Ms Mornyang screaming racial slurs and obscenities”.

South Sudanese-born Ms Mornyang was convicted of a felony charge of interference with a United Airlines flight crew member and misdemeanour assault.
Melbourne-based Mornyang, 24, faces a statutory maximum sentence of 21 years in US federal prison.
Prosecutors said Ms Mornyang, during the January 21 Melbourne to LA flight, ordered “several alcoholic beverages”.

Earlier this year Ms Mornyang denied she had attacked anyone and described the episode as “an ordeal” that she did not remember after having mixed prescription drugs with alcohol to sleep during the flight.

“I was not intoxicated because I had only two glasses of wine during dinner service, requested a seat move and slept for what I believe to have been eight hours, just to wake up five hours and five minutes before landing to an arrest.

“Did I take my Prozac and oxycodone before the flight? Yes I did. But I was not drunk before boarding.”

Even though passengers on that flight and other flight attendants said there was never a slap, the evidence was ignored and they decided to believe (the flight attendant),” she said in a text message.

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Alcohol should be banned on planes.....as cockpit cabin doors should always be locked.

Hardly a terrorist.
Maybe she heard the alleged racial slurs and obscenities in Hollywood movies.

21 years in US federal prison for that?...allegedly screaming a few racial slurs and obscenities, and a hugely doubtful misdemeanour assault.
Now there's an absolute outrage.

Not 21 months in prison...but 21 YEARS!

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 03, 2019, 07:29:45 PM »

And more twisted than a box of screws.

But raking in the dollars!
Dollars provide a comfortable life.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 03, 2019, 07:28:49 PM »

The main man seems to think that tact is a brand of soap.

Obviously hasn't read the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People".

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 03, 2019, 07:25:35 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/03/politics/jared-kushner-axios/index.html

Kushner is dumber than a sack of hammers.

Exactly why I would never sit down for interviews, if I were a politician/him.
Or give doorstop interviews.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 02, 2019, 10:28:50 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/navy-uss-mccain-shanahan/index.html

Truth comes out about ship.

Trump didn't do it, reportedly...but IMO he does and says some dumb things sometimes.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 02, 2019, 03:21:57 AM »

There's a simple solution to the overcrowding...an impenetrable wall/fence on the border...and the whole problem disappears.

We went through this once before, Bambi-ignorance, and you said you got it, so let's try it again.

Let us suppose your impenetrable wall and let us likewise assume that while it cannot keep out either the majority of drugs or the majority of folks living here without appropriate documentation, that it can keep out those from the south.

This still leaves thousands and thousands of homeless, terrified people searching for safe haven. It is not in Mexico. It is not in Honduras. It is not in Nicaragua. It is not anywhere they could get to.

You would have them die, uncared for and unsupported.

Or, as you put it, "the whole problem disappears."

Simple.

You seem to think that the whole of Mexico, Central America, South America, Africa, Middle East, N/S/E/W Asia can all move to America for a better life, free from persecution, and a life on welfare.
They can't.

Trump is correct, there has to be an orderly immigration system, with no one entering America illegally/undocumented.
The caravaners are safe in Mexico, so that's from where they should be seeking asylum.
Mexico let them in, so they're Mexico's problem.
Mexico overrun?   then that's Mexico's fault.
Mexico should set up UN refugee camps for them.

But, hang about for another year or so....Nancy and co will basically open the borders, have sanctuary cities, etc...and the real 'fun' will begin.

Australia was so overrun by boats and asylum seekers that the Leftist govt's of Rudd/Gillard/then Rudd again had them housed in resort hotels.
Free housing, $10,000 start up packs, whitegoods etc...and welfare cash for life.
The trickle became a flood.

All very nice...until 'We the People' said..."hang on a minute, where's my free home, $10,000 start up pack, and welfare cash for life?"
Gillard/Rudd drew a line in the sand, 'no more asylum seekers coming in boats will ever be settled in Australia'.

Some asylum seekers took a chance and tried it on...only to find themselves housed in shipping containers in PNG.
Some of them are still there, the housing has improved.

Open borders will work in America for a while, but eventually it will be overrun.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 02, 2019, 12:06:31 AM »

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-donald-trump-announces-tariff-goods-mexico/story?id=63388473


The move risks serious gains in the U.S. economy, as many economists believe American consumers always end up paying the price of tariffs on imported goods. But Mulvaney said Americans were already paying the costs of illegal migration.

"At any given moment, up to 100,00 migrants are transiting through Mexico on their way to the U.S. border," McAleenan said.

"The status quo is unacceptable and clear getting worse," he added.

(MORE: Private group unveils crowd-funded border wall, despite legal hurdles)

Under the new plan, the initial tariffs on all goods would be imposed on June 10. But the rate would jump from 5% to 10% on July 1 and continue climbing by 5% each month unless Mexico takes action to "dramatically reduce or eliminate the number of illegal aliens crossing its territory into the United States," according to a White House statement.

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Gotta try something drastic...Mexico hasn't listened to anything else.