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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 26, 2020, 11:20:54 AM »

We are a GREAT nation, doing GREAT things.  Those that die - it will be quite sad - but it will be from the VIRUS - not any lack of anything, not by the absence of staff in China last fall.  Those that almost die - and survive - should be thankful of the millions that helped- through various means (including simple prayer) - in the most trying of times.

Fact:  The outbreak has been worse in the US than any other country, as measured by speed of spread.  Worse than China, worse than Iran, worse than Italy.  All despite having more resources, more warning time, and despite having been made a GREAT country by Trump.

But kiidcarter8 isn't here to debate with facts.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 26, 2020, 11:17:32 AM »

The delay?  The "meanwhile,people are dying" folks need to fumegate themselves. 

Fact: When the original $8 Billion bill was delayed, kiidcarter8 accused Democrats of threatening American lives, despite the fact that it was Democrats holding it up, and that it was the Democrats who made the bill 4x what the White House was asking for.

But kiidcarter8 isn't here to debate with facts.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 26, 2020, 11:15:52 AM »

Deal was agreed to.  Rug was pulled out - not by Senate Republicans, smart guy -

Facts: Lindsey Graham, Ben Sasse, Tim Scott, and Rick Scott.  Those are the names of Senators that delayed the bill because they thought the unemployment benefits were too generous.  Those men are Senate Republicans.

But kiidcarter8 isn't here to debate with facts.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 26, 2020, 10:00:26 AM »

So we know Republicans were selling off stock after private briefings on the Coronavirus while telling Americans don't worry, buy stock.

Now we find Administration officials were desperately getting tested while telling Americans it is a hoax.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/politicians-jockeying-for-covid-19-tests-find-proximity-to-trump-is-the-fastest-route/2020/03/25/0f87c928-6e31-11ea-b148-e4ce3fbd85b5_story.html

These assholes and REDSTATEWARD deserve each other.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 26, 2020, 09:52:30 AM »

Senate bill passes.
Now Nancy gets a chance to fuck the poor.

Sorry, was it Nancy or Senate Republicans that were holding up the stimulus bill because it was too generous to unemployed low-wage workers?

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A few points.

1) Stimulus is absolutely the right thing to do right now, and the $2 Trillion may actually be short of what is needed. (Outside of any debate about whether or not this particular bill has the correct amount of oversight of how some of those treasury funds are spent)

2) We should all be able to agree that if the President was a Democrat this bill would never have happened, and REDSTATEWARD would be roaring with laughter at Administration claims (Trumps Administration making them now, mind you) that the $2 Trillion is actually worth $4 Trillion to the economy via multipliers (a word the GOP pretended they didn't understand or believe in under Obama)

3) Should a Democrat be elected President in November, Republicans will drag the nation into a debate about the resulting deficit, even though they have ignored it as an issue under Trump, and will put a stop to this spending even if the economy is still recovering.

So tell us again how Nancy wants to "fuck the poor."

Asshole.

Any guesses what the WSJ editorial board would be saying (and REDSTATEWARD would be parroting) if it was a Democratic Administration handing out $1200 + checks to Americans set to arrive 4 months before an election?

Not like we've ever heard them make the argument that Democratic policy tries to "buy votes" from poor and minority communities, right?

Right?

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 26, 2020, 09:42:42 AM »

Senate bill passes.
Now Nancy gets a chance to fuck the poor.

Sorry, was it Nancy or Senate Republicans that were holding up the stimulus bill because it was too generous to unemployed low-wage workers?

---

A few points.

1) Stimulus is absolutely the right thing to do right now, and the $2 Trillion may actually be short of what is needed. (Outside of any debate about whether or not this particular bill has the correct amount of oversight of how some of those treasury funds are spent)

2) We should all be able to agree that if the President was a Democrat this bill would never have happened, and REDSTATEWARD would be roaring with laughter at Administration claims (Trumps Administration making them now, mind you) that the $2 Trillion is actually worth $4 Trillion to the economy via multipliers (a word the GOP pretended they didn't understand or believe in under Obama)

3) Should a Democrat be elected President in November, Republicans will drag the nation into a debate about the resulting deficit, even though they have ignored it as an issue under Trump, and will put a stop to this spending even if the economy is still recovering.

So tell us again how Nancy wants to "fuck the poor."

Asshole.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 02:13:16 PM »

Even the GOP knows Trump is "president:"

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said she would like President Donald Trump to "step back" and appoint a public health official to be the spokesman for the federal government's response to the coronavirus outbreak.

“My suggestion would be Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has been around for decades and is such a well-regarded infectious disease specialist," Collins told reporters in the state capital in remarks first reported by the Portland Press Herald on Friday. Collins' spokeswoman Annie Clark confirmed her remarks to NBC News on Monday.

Collins said that the federal government is making progress in dealing with the outbreak but she "isn't satisfied with the response."

“I think that the messaging at the federal level has been inconsistent, and when you are dealing with a  novel virus like this, it’s very important that health professionals be out front and that there be a consistent message," she said, the newspaper reported.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-u-s-cities-close-public-buildings-global-n1160106/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-u-s-cities-close-public-buildings-global-n1160106/ncrd1160596#liveBlogHeader

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 12:52:18 PM »

"President Trump downplaying the severity of the virus......."

Nope.  Simply not so, CNN

We get those coronavirus numbers down to zero yet?

There is no way to square "we have tremendous control of" the virus, and "The worse is yet ahead for us.  It is how we respond to that challenge that is going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be."

I guess if you think Trump's assessment is more reliable than that of Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, then I suppose you are free to disagree with an assessment that Trump has been downplaying the severity of the situation.

If you are thinking rationally on this and trusting the scientists over a congenital liar, then there is no way to think otherwise.

Trump praised his own press conference on Friday afternoon by the market's reaction.  Trump suggests they do something like that every day, not because of the info that got out to the American people, but because it pushed up stocks.

Today a press conference with the task force that was scheduled for 10:30 has been rescheduled for 3:30, just before markets close.

This is what is driving Trump Admin action on this.  How will the markets react, not what will save lives.  You think otherwise, the con man has you.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 12:49:36 PM »

"President Trump downplaying the severity of the virus......."

Nope.  Simply not so, CNN

We get those coronavirus numbers down to zero yet?

There is no way to square "we have tremendous control of" the virus, and "The worse is yet ahead for us.  It is how we respond to that challenge that is going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be."

I guess if you think Trump's assessment is more reliable than that of Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, then I suppose you are free to disagree with an assessment that Trump has been downplaying the severity of the situation.

If you are thinking rationally on this and trusting the scientists over a congenital liar, then there is no way to think otherwise.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 12:02:44 PM »

Many of Italy's citizens went to China for Chinese New Year and there was no travel ban in place at the time.

Chinese New Year was 2 months ago.  To the degree that this was responsible for the outbreak in Italy, its old news.

The outbreak in the US is closely mirroring the early days of the Italy outbreak.  And in that country 200 people died in one day.  This suggests to me that it is not only an issue for the old and unhealthy, and that we are overreacting by implementing larger shutdowns.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 11:59:25 AM »

Cuomo taking huge measures in NY

Why not sooner?

Declaration of Emergency came three days ago.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 11:08:19 AM »

https://www.foxnews.com/media/steve-hilton-dr-fauci-coronavirus-school-closures


"The question many are asking is... 'if kids don't get it -- if most people who get it are fine, why are we closing down America to fight it?"' Hilton asked.


"You need to answer the big question many Americans are asking. Instead of closing school, colleges, sports and other large gatherings for the general population, why don't we isolate the vulnerable population?"

Starting assumption w/ the above is that the virus stays as is.  Haven't heard anything about COVID but know in past outbreaks the virus was evaluated on its "stability" meaning its ability to transform into something more dangerous, either by how it is transmitted, or by combining with some other bug to be more infectious/deadly.

Maybe I've watched too many movies, or maybe its smart to play it safe, do everything possible to prevent the spread.  This isn't all a big conspiracy to tank the economy and make sure Trump loses in 2020.  So best listen to people that are smarter than you on this.

200 people died of the virus in Italy in one day.  That seems like an awfully high 24 hour death toll for something that can just be ridden out in the normal fashion.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 16, 2020, 11:05:49 AM »

https://www.foxnews.com/media/steve-hilton-dr-fauci-coronavirus-school-closures


"The question many are asking is... 'if kids don't get it -- if most people who get it are fine, why are we closing down America to fight it?"' Hilton asked.


"You need to answer the big question many Americans are asking. Instead of closing school, colleges, sports and other large gatherings for the general population, why don't we isolate the vulnerable population?"

Starting assumption w/ the above is that the virus stays as is.  Haven't heard anything about COVID but know in past outbreaks the virus was evaluated on its "stability" meaning its ability to transform into something more dangerous, either by how it is transmitted, or by combining with some other bug to be more infectious/deadly.

Maybe I've watched too many movies, or maybe its smart to play it safe, do everything possible to prevent the spread.  This isn't all a big conspiracy to tank the economy and make sure Trump loses in 2020.  So best listen to people that are smarter than you on this.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 13, 2020, 12:00:22 PM »

in Colorado the governor has stated that they do about 150 tests a day - and want to up this to 20,000.  (he may be daft - I dont know).  He has comed up with the idea to have DRIVE through testing - I guess like a FotoMat or a Krispy Kreme - imagine the lines (again, he may be daft - though he fancies himself a visionary of sorts)

NYS implementing drive-through testing in New Rochelle.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 13, 2020, 11:59:10 AM »

GOP:

“Is there anyway we can fuck this up some more?”



https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-03-13/trump-administration-blocks-states-use-medicaid-respond-coronavirus-crisis

We can only hope that something to come out of this emergency is the highlighting to people of the GOPs unsuitability to govern in a way that their attempting to dismantle our democracy did not.