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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 07, 2020, 11:44:25 AM »

Colin Powell says Trump no longer following the Constitution and so should not be reelected:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/colin-powell-donald-trump-protests-cnntv/index.html

OK, but seems to me if Trump is not following the Constitution he should resign, or be removed.

He ordered 10,000 active duty troops onto the streets of America to quell protests.  Only his cabinet and advisers managed to turn back those orders.  He is an obvious threat to our Democracy.  He needs to be removed or leave.

Now.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 07, 2020, 11:34:00 AM »

Hundreds of thousands of NYC kids depend on the schools for their food security.  New York figured out and enacted a way of feeding them over a matter of days.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/new-york-city-school-children-free-food-coronavirus

And this was only part of it.  They also needed to figure out how to take care of the kids of thousands of front line workers who depend on the schools for child care, otherwise they couldn't have gone to work. 

Easy to say they should have shut down the schools earlier when it isn't your call and you don't understand all the ramifications and difficulties that come with that decision.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 07, 2020, 11:27:29 AM »

Not sure why this debate on Cuomo goes from how timelines can be interpreted to personal insults.   

I would say,  overall,  implementing plans in the US that involve people's movements is akin to herding cats.   This is deeply ingrained in our culture and will always pose problems as pandemics move through.

I mostly respect bodiddley's arguments but the idea that Cuomo could have shut down air travel into New York City is totally laughable.

I think we can all understand that there is a ton that states depend on federal response for.  NYC did so on 9/11, and on COVID we are even more dependent on the Feds for big picture info, logistical coordination between states, supplies, tests...there was zero Federal response, nothing.  Still nothing of substance four months later.  Look at how inept and political the CDC has been.

We now know that Cuomo should have enacted stay at home orders (and de Blasio should have shut down the schools) two weeks earlier than they did.  It would have saved thousands of lives.  But what do you think the total lack of info and logistics on the Federal level was worth in lost time?  I'd say one to two weeks not a stretch.

New York did not lead the way on stay at home and school shutdowns in the country and they should have.  But those orders were also more complex to enact in New York than they were anywhere else, so can understand why in the absence of hard facts from the CDC (an organization that was actually spreading misinformation at the time) the call on that was delayed.

Also, take for granted that New Yorkers are hyper socially aware and do what the science tells us, but I don't think we should underestimate how Cuomo's leadership (yes after his initial missteps that made the outbreak worse than it could have been) has unified the State and led to a largely successful response.

Cuomo gets a C/C-minus for initial response (de Blasio a D) but gets an A for the handling of what came after.  I hold him accountable for the how bad things got in New York, yes.  But the notion that he should resign over it is pretty absurd.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 06, 2020, 09:21:01 PM »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8393207/U-S-reduce-troop-numbers-Germany-U-S-official-says.html

27% reduction.

Has nothing to do with Angela Merkel, the WH assures us.

It may not.

Probably has more to do with Vladimir Putin.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 06, 2020, 07:35:08 AM »

I want THIS woman on the national stage:

I like Kamala Harris, a lot.  But the primary made it painfully obvious that she wasn't ready for the national stage.  Not yet.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 06, 2020, 07:33:05 AM »

You are doing what conservatives say.

Taking the black vote for granted. It gives the rightwing to play there tune about blacks being on the “Democrat Plantation.”

What I did was address your contention that "investing" in an already loyal base is the best use of Biden's VP pick.  As I said, being just politically crass, I think that is incorrect in Biden's case.

Then, far from take it for granted, I provided evidence that the black vote is actually behind a Warren pick.  Maybe the only way to get it isn't to pick a black candidate?

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 06, 2020, 06:47:26 AM »

If there is a group that CONSISTENTLY delivers 85-90% of their vote don’t you think getting more of them to vote is a good investment?

Actually, no.  I am all for a black running mate, but to be just politically crass for a moment, using up your valuable VP points to shore up a voting base that is already solidly in your corner when you have tons of other vulnerabilities is a bad move.

Warren would address many of those key vulnerabilities (particularly progressive and young voters) while she is actually a popular pick with minority voters.  I've seen a few polls that show her as the preference among black voters (over Harris and Abrams) this is just the latest one:

https://morningconsult.com/2020/05/27/biden-warren-vice-president-poll/

As for bodiddley's contention that the VP spot would be a waste for her talents, I don't picture her sitting in the background.  She could take that position and transform it, particularly after 4 years of Trump, the roots of corruption, self-dealing and bad governance are going to run deep and it is going to take someone with energy and attention to details to rip them out.  Couldn't think of anyone better.

Attorney General would work for that somewhat, but the poison of Trump isn't limited to lawlessness.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 05, 2020, 02:10:18 PM »

The conspiracists are out in force these days:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bexar-county-gop-chair-suggests-floyd-killing-may-have-been-staged-to-hurt-trump/ar-BB1509bX?ocid=sf

It is a pity for her that Trump has given his last State of the Union, otherwise she could have been a featured guest.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 05, 2020, 09:46:32 AM »

And BTW:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-lives-matter-coronavirus-protest-masks_n_5ed9a69bc5b68bc1a40159b9

This isn't law enforcement.  This is committing a felony.   

  "Every person who commits mail theft, as defined in Section 1708 of Title 18 of the United States Code, is guilty of a public offense, and upon conviction therefor shall be punished by a fine, by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by both a fine and imprisonment."

The mail didn't contain weapons,  contraband,  or banned chemicals or biologicals.

Lock em up!

The only possible objection law enforcement could have with the masks is the message written on them, which makes their confiscation a violation of the First Amendment.

But I am not expecting our resident Free Speech defenders to weigh in on this.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 05, 2020, 07:42:13 AM »

How is trump still hiding behind John Dowd? I think seeing the graffiti has started to make trump aware of how much of the country hates him and how deeply. It’s probably starting to feel like Atlantic City for him all over again.

The Dowd letter Trump proudly shares; "The phony protesters near Lafayette park were not peaceful and are not real.  They are terrorists."

This is the level of denial/self-delusion required to justify their response to them.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 05, 2020, 07:34:26 AM »

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/donald-trump-election-disruption-2020-294721

Good, important article.
Trump can still try to cheat his way to victory, especially if his inept handling of the virusif the rioters not social distancing if his inept handling of the virus and calls for violence in response to legitimate protests means a public health emergency still exists in early NOV.

Fixed

Fixed

And...have to love the irony in kiidcarter8 crying about social distancing practices re: protests when he was all for eliminating them so that people could shop at Marshall's and eat at the local Hardee's while holding up Sweden as a model for how we should have responded to COVID.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 05, 2020, 07:32:01 AM »

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/donald-trump-election-disruption-2020-294721

Good, important article.
Trump can still try to cheat his way to victory, especially if his inept handling of the virusif the rioters not social distancing if his inept handling of the virus and calls for violence in response to legitimate protests means a public health emergency still exists in early NOV.

Fixed

Fixed

And BTW:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black-lives-matter-coronavirus-protest-masks_n_5ed9a69bc5b68bc1a40159b9

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 05, 2020, 07:31:17 AM »

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/donald-trump-election-disruption-2020-294721

Good, important article.
Trump can still try to cheat his way to victory, especially if his inept handling of the virusif the rioters not social distancing if his inept handling of the virus and calls for violence in response to legitimate protests means a public health emergency still exists in early NOV.

Fixed

Fixed

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2020, 07:40:08 AM »

This shit will just lead to more protests:

https://gothamist.com/news/live-protest-updates-after-earlier-curfew-arrests-and-looting-decline

New Yorkers aren't going to tolerate a decent into Fascism.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: June 04, 2020, 07:36:49 AM »

My last post came before I read this:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/john-allen-trump-protests-george-floyd/index.html