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1  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 24, 2018, 02:59:55 PM
"You and I......dont get treated that way"

I posted how I did in fact get treated similarly.  And I left the premises rather than further the conflict.

The person asking ME to leave was black.

You and Fac dont know shit.  Make a valid point or stay out of my discussions.

Were you there for a meeting waiting for your party to arrive?

Not your discussion. Not your Starbucks. Your toxicity. Your stupidity.

Own what’s yours. Quit fronting on the rest.

If you are at the DR.s office and the receptionist offers to call the cops. Chances are fairly good that you were being provocative.

I'm art this other site for artists.

This artist is going on about a piece he did. It's a painting of a fetus in the hand of Jebus nailed (through the wrist. That's the thing about Stigmata folks. some bleed from the hand some from the wrist. God can't keep straight where the nails were?)

He's bragging on the image and he's being praised by the religious. He mentions that the fetus was a representation of his child that had been aborted.

It's a touchy site so I don't get to go there. But, I HAVE to wonder about that back story! How big of an asshole did this guy have to be (he's kind of an asshole)to that woman that she would want to abort the child they had made.

Maybe he was a one night stand for her. As I say, I don't know.

It seems to me that the evolutionary imperative of survival of the species is quite strong and that the hormonal changes a woman is experiencing is at least in part designed to make her WANT to have a baby. (Whether she wants one or not!) Which I will say is a strong case for Safe Legal open abortion laws. Because if your body isn't convincing you that you NEED to have this baby. What other hormones are being left out of the baby soup? Perhaps that is the clearest sign you can get that this might not be a great idea? Maybe it is the clearest sign that abortion is the wisest course of action.

Yeah, there are lots of anecdotal... anecdotes about how "I was going to get one, but then I just couldn't and now I just love my baby soooooo very much." And there are stories (anecdotes, if you will) of women regretful for their actions. But both of those instances could be the hormones talking.


Abortion! Huh?
 
2  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 20, 2018, 03:39:40 PM
OK but that's just a different "They" and a different "Something." Also Aligators don't eat people. Crocodiles! They're the ones!
3  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 20, 2018, 02:07:09 PM
Julie Rudiani:

Here's what I (as a New Yorker) find disturbing about this.

The rest of the country (people who voted for Trump) are going to turn on him just like they turned on the last two Republican Presidents (Bush and Bush) and they are going to say that he isn't a real Republican, He's not a real Conservative (No d'uh you dipshits! That's what people on the left AND the right were trying to tell you mo rons Before the election!).

And then they'll say that the problem with them is that they came from NY. It's easy to hate on NY. It's easy for the country to rag on NYC because it is both the richest and the poorest, So you can hate both the Wall Street elites and the welfare queens (and the welfare of Queens) and all those intellectuals alla time calling for regulations like we give a damn about the water levels in NYC! (But if a levy bursts! Then the Gubmint HAS to come and bail out our basement!)

I agree with Comey's assessment of an Impeachment. It's waiting for "They" to do "something." Instead of taking personal responsibility for allowing this situation to have developed in the first place. Instead of lacing up your work boots and actually doing the work it is going to take! From "ABCs to the XYZs."
4  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 19, 2018, 01:52:19 PM
The Obama Economy was a good one?
During the Obama years the GOP took over Congress, won 1000 seats in state governments, and won 35 governorships.
Those democrat economic decisions of high taxes and stifling regulations didn’t set well with voters. Notice how once the GOP passed a tax cut the country zoomed to full employment with the CBO predicting 3.3%
GDP.


But he got re-elected, right?

Wasn't it you that used that as evidence that there was nothing untoward toward Obama?

There is no central post to your philosophy, Red.

Keep my address, red. If ever you're on trial for something heinous, I'll be willing to testify that you don't know the difference between right and wrong.
5  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 19, 2018, 09:49:50 AM


Why do you argue against the obvious?
That would be you
Not me.

Not quite, for me the question would be "Why do you argue against the oblivious?"

It's a good question.
6  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 07:06:32 PM
Yes. And?

How'd that Hopey Changy thing work out?

Why do you argue against the obvious?
7  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 06:51:04 PM
This:
Did the white guys who voted for Obama in '08 and '12, and for Trump in '16, become racists?

Really does clarify this:


I’m stupid because I’m pissed off that I can be arrested or killed because some white person felt “uncomfortable” and dialed 911 while I was minding my business. Shit I could give you chapter and verse about those personal experiences, but what’s the point? I generalize about a society that replaced Barack Obama with Donald Trump and I’m supposed to play the “Not All White People” trope so YOU don’t feel personally aggrieved, right?

Fuck you because if the shoe doesn’t fit YOU don’t try to put the motherfucker on.


For me.



And for my money, that NYKnicks12 is willing to make the case for black americans, here in a chat room where he is the only black man.

You’d look pretty stupid if we all could FaceTime in here.

You can't even figure out the quote function, FaceTime? What, did your great grand daughter move in?

If there are other contributors in THIS forum that are black, I am willing to be wrong. But there is a difference between wrong and stupid. (Not that you can't be both.)
8  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 06:46:21 PM
Bob

That you are unaware of Len Bias speaks for itself.


Quote from:  Wiki
He was selected by the Boston Celtics as the second overall pick in the 1986 NBA draft on June 17, and died two days later

Yes. it does speak for itself. That I'm not going to make a joke at the expense of a man dead for 30 motherfucking years! It can say that about me 24 hours a day 7 days a week for the rest of my life!


It was a disgusting joke in 1986, and that you are still making it just makes you that much more so.

But look. I'm not a rodeo clown. I'm not here to distract the producer of bullshit from chasing after the cowboy.

You can have the last words.
9  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 06:32:52 PM

Far as I'm concerned, NYKnicks12 can rail against white people all he wants. I am happy to hear the concerns so that I have something against which to correct my behaviors and or my preconceptions. How else will I know?

and Uno if your only interactions with a Black-American is here in Elba, you should probably get out of the house a little more often.

I have interaction with black people, but talking to white people about what black people think is an incomplete investigation.

Why don't you come on round here in a couple of months and we'll see about getting you a job as a Cherry Picker?

Meanwhile, while I know lots of otherwise fine white people, when they start spouting off the way you do, I stop having interaction with them. So they don't say those things to me. Likewise the black people that I interact don't feel the freedom to speak as candidly as NYKnicks12 can feel on an internet chat board. I'm going to get more raw data here. Just like I get out of you.
10  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 06:28:43 PM
Barton,

"White People"=/= Each White Person.

White people as a group fit the stereotype pretty damned well. Even though individually they would never! "Why, I would NEVER!"

If I made the same damning generalizations about Africans-Americans that Knicks routinely does about white people, i suspect I'd be called a racist.

Yeah? And?

What case are you making other than "I know you are but what am I?"

Come on, man.
Uno if you have white guilt, then you have white guilt, but I don't.

Shame on you!

How can you look at what is going on in this country and not see the systemic racism? How can you not see that the black citizen does not have equal footing with the white citizen? And the reason for that is that white people fight against an equal footing. Not all white people, but white people run the fucking place, they're (we're) the ones that tolerate black men being thrown into prison for the same crimes that white people commit at what ever the multiple it is. Instead of being motivated to learn more about it, and made uncomfortable in that effort to change, we mollify ourselves by being on the same continuum as Bambu. NYKnicks12 has carved this problem out for himself, therefore I'm going to set his black ass straight, do him some good. That's my contribution. I'm just being pragmatic.

How can you not still feel white guilt?
I have marched, written, spoken and financially comtributed and otherwise supported the cause of racial equality in this country.

When I was 12 years old I was the reason that a polluter of the Hudson River had to build a multi million dollar waste treatment plant. ME! I did that!

Does that give me the right to throw my Whopper wrapper into the wind? No.

You helped when it was fashionable? Good on you! Guess what. A black man running away from a policeman was shot 8 times in the back. And if there weren't a kid there recording the whole thing, that cop would be a cop today. Racism is NOT over!


And Black bias is no better than bias by Whites.

Wrong! Because black have virtually NO POWER in this country. We elected a black president, and look what they did to him! When there is racial bias without the power to enforce that prejudice, that's bigotry. When the bias PLUS the power to enforce those biases, that is racism. [/quote]


However I did like Len Bias.

Damn shame.

YMMV   

I don't even remember what that joke used to be about. But that you use it today is revealing.
11  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 05:45:40 PM
This:
Did the white guys who voted for Obama in '08 and '12, and for Trump in '16, become racists?

Really does clarify this:


I’m stupid because I’m pissed off that I can be arrested or killed because some white person felt “uncomfortable” and dialed 911 while I was minding my business. Shit I could give you chapter and verse about those personal experiences, but what’s the point? I generalize about a society that replaced Barack Obama with Donald Trump and I’m supposed to play the “Not All White People” trope so YOU don’t feel personally aggrieved, right?

Fuck you because if the shoe doesn’t fit YOU don’t try to put the motherfucker on.


For me.

I agree with the point NYKnicks12 is making here. The white guy feels put upon by the generalizations of the black guy in an internet chat room.

The black guy feels put upon by white people calling the police just because he is in the wrong seat in Philadelphia!

There is a monstrous false equivalency here!

And for my money, that NYKnicks12 is willing to make the case for black americans, here in a chat room where he is the only black man. He is doing us a gigantic favor! I have interaction with black people, but talking to white people about what black people think is an incomplete investigation.

I remember being here when Obama was running. I remember the sidestepping of the Rev Wright sermons. I remember saying the Rev.Wright was right!  I remember people not liking that, and the reason was that they were trying to "Anglo cize " the black reality in America. And the whole "If you'd just act more white, we'd all get along fine." bullshit. NYKnicks12, if you'd just clarify that, I'm cool, that the brothers can trust ME then we'll all be jivey!

Forget that this presumes the same thing about him that you're excoriating him for assuming about you. Please don't personalize this, Bankshot, because it's not about you only (why you're jumping into Utley's shoes I do not know) it's about generalizations.

Far as I'm concerned, NYKnicks12 can rail against white people all he wants. I am happy to hear the concerns so that I have something against which to correct my behaviors and or my preconceptions. How else will I know? I'm going to learn everything from Gail King? And if he goes over the top. So the fuck what? iv'e been there, others have been there why must we go over the top and make a federal case about it?

There used to be a "joke" about there not being any rolls for Blacks on tv. "What about on cops?" and it was discouraging to ME, a white guy, it seemed that every time there was a crime on tv it involved a black guy. Guys like Bambu can be expected to think that black men are a Means looking for an Opportunity upon which they will claim race as a Motive only. Not forgiven, but expected.

Now the images are changing. With the advent of the hand held camera the evidence is ALSO that black men are victims of the system. From Rodney King to Starbucks! 80 year old grandma beat up by a black teenager? Yes, caught right there on camera. That is THAT woman assaulted by THAT black man. But Starbucks is those black men being assaulted by Institutionalized racism AND by the Government that is supposed to protect them from it! You tell me which is worse.

12  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 01:03:24 PM
Speaking of Makey Greaty!

Have you seen this ad for American metal?

"WE built this country!"

It is a dog whistle to White Supremacists! There is not a single black person in the ad! The biggest tallest men are the white men, and the ad is a "Pro Trump, Pro Sanctions" propaganda piece that is insidiously inciting intolerance! Institutionalizing exclusion!

GRAGFRAUGNORBALFUNGGORIA!

(phew, that helped....)

13  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 18, 2018, 12:41:44 PM
Hey! What do you know? There IS news of the massive reinvestment as caused by the Tax cuts for Anamerican Corporations.

Senator FOR PA: Bob Casey

Quote from:  the above linked article

In 2018 alone, major corporations have authorized more than $250 billion in corporate stock buybacks; with 84% of stocks owned by the top ten percent of Americans, benefits of stock buybacks flow to the top

 
Wed Apr 18 07:43:36 2018 EDT
 
 Washington, D.C.  - Though the Republican tax bill was sold to the public as a "middle-class miracle," the benefits have flowed mainly to corporations and the wealthy. To call out this scam for what it is,  U.S.  Senator  Bob Casey  (D-PA) is unveiling a report recently produced by  Senate Democrats . At the end of the day,  Republicans  will try to force the American people to pay for their massive tax giveaway to the wealthy through major cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and  Social Security . The wealthiest Americans are seeing billions in benefits from stock buybacks while some middle class Americans will see a tax increase. And, as corporate executives are padding their pocketbooks with stock buybacks and laying off American workers, millions of Americans continue to struggle to make ends meet.
Additional details on these buybacks can be found below:
Corporation Share Buyback Amount Announced in 2018 (Billions) Date
 Cisco   $25  14-Feb
Wells Fargo*  $22.6  23-Jan
PepsiCo  $15  13-Feb
 Broadcom   $12  12-Apr
Oracle  $12  1-Feb
 AbbVie   $10  15-Feb
Amgen  $10  1-Feb
Alphabet (Google)  $8.6  1-Feb
Booking  $8  27-Feb
 Visa   $7.5  1-Feb
 Applied Materials   $6  14-Feb
Mondel?z International  $6  31-Jan
eBay  $6  1-Feb
 Celgene   $5  14-Feb
 Lowe's   $5  26-Jan
 NetApp, Inc.   $4  5-Apr
CSX  $3.5  12-Feb
 Phillips 66   $3.3  14-Feb
TJX  $3  28-Feb
 Constellation Brands   $3  5-Jan
 Fifth Third Bancorp *  $2.8  27-Feb
 Franklin Resources *  $2.7  12-Apr
Valero  $2.5  23-Jan
 KLA-Tencor   $2  19-Mar
 Lam Research   $2  6-Mar
 Eastman Chemical   $2  6-Feb
 Juniper Networks   $2  30-Jan
 SiriusXM   $2  23-Jan
Baxter  $1.5  20-Feb
IQVIA  $1.5  14-Feb
 Teradyne   $1.5  24-Jan
 Leidos *  $1.3  22-Feb
Hilton*  $1.25  9-Apr
 QEP Resources   $1.25  28-Feb
 Cincinnati Financial *  $1.2  26-Jan
 AutoZone   $1  20-Mar
 Dollar General   $1  15-Mar
 Hess Corporation   $1  8-Mar
 Devon Energy   $1  7-Mar
 NRG Energy   $1  1-Mar
 Cardinal Health   $1  8-Feb
 O'Reilly Automotive   $1  7-Feb
 Skyworks   $1  5-Feb
Altria  $1  1-Feb
 Rockwell Automation   $1  25-Jan
Buybacks < $1 Billion   $37.5
TOTAL Corporate Buybacks Authorized in 2018  $250 Billion
*Based on closing price on the day share buyback was announced.
This report can be downloaded as a pdf here https://www.democrats.senate.gov/new-report-ahead-of-tax-day-corporations-hit-more-than-250-billion-in-stock-buybacks-in-2018-overwhelmingly-benefitting-executives-and-wealthy-shareholdersnot-workers?peek=Py6reMEs10u2T7ukpdHpXOOJ3gMKKZm5yCWu0tjtHaLCxbWY.
Background on the GOP Tax Bill:
According to the  Congressional Budget Office , the Republican tax legislation will increase deficits by over  $1.5 trillion .  Republicans  in  Congress  passed the almost  $9.5 trillion  in changes to the tax code over the course of 49 days, without a single hearing on the bill.
Based on the assessment of the non-partisan  Joint Committee on Taxation  in 2019, over 57 million households making under  $100,000  a year will see a tax increase or a tax cut of less than  $9  a month JCT Table D-17-58. In that same year, 2019, households making over  $1 million  a year will get an average annual tax cut of  $64,428  ( $5,369  a month) JCX-68-17 , spending over  $36.8 billion  on tax cuts to millionaires in 2019 alone.
According to the Tax Policy Center, by 2027 83% of the tax benefit will go to the top 1%. In that same year, 2027, 69.5 million Americans earning under  $100,000  will see a tax increase - that is, they will pay more in taxes than if the tax bill had never been enacted.
Read this original document at: https://www.casey.senate.gov/newsroom/releases/on-tax-day-casey-reveals-tax-scam-as-250-billion-bonus-for-billionaires-millionaires-and-massive-corporations
 


A quarter of 1 TRILLION dollars, since the beginning of 2018!

How many jobs were created as a result? Some investment banker gets to hire an ex playmate to chase around the desk? The Lambo dealership lays on a new receptionist to lay on? Somebody else's dumb assed son in law get's hired to occupy a corner office and forget to pull the shades while he's jerking off?

Howz that Makey Greaty thingy workin out fer ya?

Dumb asses!
 

14  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 17, 2018, 10:49:57 AM
Trump runs foreign policy with an iron whip

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15  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: April 16, 2018, 06:28:01 PM
From NYT

Japanese Leader Is Beset by Scandals as He Meets Trump

Causal or casual?

Can't you just imagine a cartoon with Abe shaking hands with Trump and a swarm of Scandal roaches that follow Trump, live on Trump, that Trump himself is made of  surround and engulf Abe?
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