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316  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Why would anyone be surprised he wants to create a climate where people feel obligated to report their neighbors to the police?

Exactly the way they used to do it during the time of Stalin in the USSR. Could this be the time period he is eluding to when he says he wants to make America great again?

Exactly the way they do it in No Ko today!

Trump is exhibiting the same classic overcompensation as fag pastors (and politicians) that preach against the "homo sexual agenda!" on Sunday, and take it up the ass Monday through Saturday.

Trump has homoerotic fantasies involving Kim Jung Un. He wants to BE Kim Jung Un!

"Little Rocket Man" takes on a whole different implication!
317  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 02:12:48 PM
The only way any nation could identify every incidence of mental illness as soon as it develops would be by some sort of totalitarian surveillance society, as in The Minority Report
It really does get tiresome hearing the right wing say (almost every time) that this or that would not have prevented what happened. Of course that’s probably true.
The whole "Can't stop all of them so why try to stop any of them" mindset is precisely why we have repealed all of the laws against bank robbery.

Not quite yet, but they're working on it, and then the banks can get back to robbing us as a nation instead of  as well as robbing us of every nickel and dime they can possibly think of, individually.
318  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 02:09:36 PM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

Round up the usual "thoughts and prayers."
I Whiskey J. Priest am calling for a complete shut down of.white immigration into this country until we can figure out what the Hell is going on.
319  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 02:08:42 PM
  President Donald Trump addressed the nation but did not mention guns, instead saying that the “scene of terrible violence, hatred and evil” should be cause to “tackle the difficult question of mental health”.

Earlier on Thursday, he appeared to tweet blame on the community for not flagging the suspect to enough authorities: “Neighbors and classmates knew he was a big problem. Must always report such instances to authorities, again and again!”

Just shut up, you stupid fat ignorant sack of shit.

I heard Ted Cruz addressing "Mental Health" along with preventative measures.

It gave me some Sange Froid in that it seemed like the foundation to an argument for rounding up perceived "Mentally ill persons" that might present a danger to others and society. Re education camps? Right here in America? (Do they take Aussies?)

The focus shifts from guns to grey pudding. It's not far to the police, thought and otherwise.

We know that the Right is willing to alter their deeply held convictions. Especially if potential criminals (read black, brown, Jewish and left leaning white people) can be rounded up as a result.

To paraphrase Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the crazies
And I did not speak out
Because wharyou fuckin crazy? Do you know what they do to those people? All you have to do is speak out and it's like "Throw 22!" "If you speak out about rounding up crazy people, that means you're crazy! No sane person would put themselves in that situation!"

(Niemöller was obviously much more succinct than I. But I'm funnier!)

320  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 01:54:57 PM
I'm here to claim a prize?

Apparently I won something?

I don't know...


 I was told that I won.

The message said "Congratulations. You win."

The topic was "Bye"

No idea... Was it something I said?

Ya got me.  I musta missed that post.

Which post did you miss?

There was a posting? Is that where my prize is? Huh
321  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 01:16:18 PM
I'm here to claim a prize?

Apparently I won something?

I don't know...


 I was told that I won.

The message said "Congratulations. You win."

The topic was "Bye"

No idea... Was it something I said?
322  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 15, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
I'm here to claim a prize?

Apparently I won something?

I don't know...
323  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 14, 2018, 01:35:12 PM

Black eye fighting over a vase (not from a punch)
Second wife was a "fucking bitch"

Adds up to what, exactly?  
How did these women come together - and time their allegations?
And what is the third woman's role?

It's the old story, they interviewed 1,000 domestic abusers and they found that they all had one thing in common, "The Bitch don't listen!"

When I first heard that joke I guffawed, because the punchline was way outside my expectation. But it's an example of "It's funny because it's true." Not that she doesn't listen, but that it is the excuse abusers often give.

There are many people who shouldn't be in enclosed spaces with other people. Which also goes to the question of "What is it about you that you choose men like this?" Not that your choice justifies his actions, but there is a reason you're playing with fire. I don't buy the "The first three years were fine.' line. Call me whatever you like, I'm not convinced that there were no warning signs. Why did wife Number 2 not ask what happened to wife number one?

Because women come into relationships with the idea that one of two things will happen. 1. You're perfect, now change! or 2. You're broken, but I can fix you.

This gets to the kernel of the #MeToo dilemma. Women see themselves as empathetic, and yet they are absolutely without understanding of what it is like being a man. Men, on the other hand know exactly what it is like being a woman, because they talk about it incessantly! Yes I know, we all know women who aren't "Like That." Meanwhile "every" married man knows that somewhere his wife has the first collar of her first (long dead) puppy dog stashed away somewhere. But he can't have a box with his crap from his teenaged years tucked away under everything in the corner of the garage without she hits it with the car and tells him it's in the way and he needs to throw it out!

Point is, he didn't have security clearance. PERIOD.

Trump's administration is not doing the jobs required of it. They cut so many corners it's no wonder he works in an Oval Office! What is a wonder is that any tower that Trump had anything to do with building is still standing! If he doesn't care enough to make sure his staff is safe, what makes you so sure there's any water hooked up to the sprinkler system in Trump Towers?

OK that was fun, I gotta get back to work.
324  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 04:15:43 PM

That link works far better and is far more timely, as you say.

"far more timely" doesn't quite equal timely, but oh well!
It also links to an article fundamentally at odds with the "I caused Joy Reid to get fired" message of his original post.

Yeah but then, so was reality!

How many times can you find an article that specifically corrects a departure from reality such as the one displayed? They don't usually bother debunking Breitbart much anymore, do they. They figure that "By Brietbart" pretty much discredits the whole thing in the first place.

What were the chances he was going to find ANOTHER article that was as wrong as the first one?

Good catch, BTW. I read it and I was asking myself "Drop in the ratings? When did this happen? I thought they were riding high since Bill O'Reilly started a trend and got hisself fired for sexual harassment.

How mad must O'Reilly be that he paid $13Millions in settlements and a billionaire got it done for $130Thou?
325  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 04:11:05 PM
Bibi got burnt!

Netanyahu is being recommended for charges of Fraud and Bribery. The Israeli police (whatever that means) have studied the situation for over a year, mindful of their need to have a case that will convict. They apparently believe they have hurtled that obstacle!

I can't imagine there is not a loosening of bowels in the White House!

From the article, Bibi has been doing essentially the Trump Stomp, blaming the media, trying to discredit the cops and leaning on the "sacred duty" of his position of power. Ironically, his, "whatever I did or didn't do I did or didn't do for you." is the same sort of speech that abusive husbands give their wives (at least they do on every after school special I ever saw on the topic... and most L&O SVU's...)

I can't pretend I amn't kinda lovinit.
326  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 01:09:14 PM
I will say, tho  that the images of the severed heads are affecting.

For myself, I feel a great sympathy for the newly dead girls.

Topic to the side, I have to hand it to the artist for capturing that emotion and freezing it. That is not an easy thing to do.
327  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 01:04:43 PM
Or it can be seen as the adversity that he had to deal with throughout his Presidency. A poisonous wall of itchy bastards. One that he has transcended and now it is behind him.

I'm surprised that the comparison to Klimt hasn't been made in the Michelle portrait. It was the first thing that jumped out at me.

They look good (to my untrained eye), and I will like to see them in contrast to those that came before.

I often hear NYKnicks12's remark in my head tho', "They gave this man shit for wanting Dijon mustard for his burger." Which I think sums it up pretty well.

What is your aim there Mr. Utley? Are you trying to celebrate "Black History Month" by saying something antagonistic each day?

Or are you planning on giving up being Mr. Utley for Lent and so you feel as though getting it all out will make it easier for you? (Because that doesn't work. It's like eating a lot before you go on a diet, just makes you hungrier when you've stopped stuffing your pie hole.)
328  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 12:01:45 PM
And let's not forget that St Ronald was the one who replaced "Tax and Spend" with "Borrow and SPEND"

Let's not forget that George Bush promised us a "Peace Dividend" from the end of a Cold War that had raged for 30 years. The dividend that disappeared into an invasion of a defenseless nation which lasted 100 hours (after a 5 week bombing campaign). Pfft... all gone. No Peace Dividend for YOU!

329  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 11:52:18 AM
Really getting annoyed at all these news stories that are wondering where oh where did all the deficit scolds go in the Republican Party.  “Republicans used to hate Deficits.  What happened?”

Such idiots. A Republican President happened!   Republicans never hated deficits How the hell could they forget what happened under George W. Bush?  It was just 9 years ago.

Why is the supposedly “leftist media” so gullible when it comes to consuming the total bullshit that comes out of the Right?

Good questions!
330  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: February 13, 2018, 11:49:58 AM
Point there being: He didn't have security clearance. But he handled all the docs passed on to the POTUS. But he didn't have security clearance. But some of the docs and some of the meetings that he attended with the POTUS were top secret?

Let's not go back to the dumb game of "I know you are but what am I?" but let us not forget the apoplexy of the right when Hillary (who had security clearance) received emails on a server that did not have security clearance. These same people are AOK with Trump's team KNOWINGLY putting classified documents in front of the eyes of a non classified- approved person.

Did he leak info? I don't know ( I wouldn't think so, but this administration has been sieve like). Is he indicative of a larger issue in the Trump Administration? He certainly is cause for investigation. An Audit ought to be done to make sure everyone who needs security clearance has a valid certificate.

Gee. Lookit that!

The objective of anyone looking to "win" the "debate" is to control the narrative. To be the one that calls the topic.

Too often I see the left just responding to the topic as defined by the right. When I brought this topic up, crickets.

Now that is in no small part because I'm me, and you're you. Regard levels are not particularly high. I don't blame anyone for holding my posts in low regard.

That having been said. "I told ya so." It's not the first time, it might be the last. Who the hell knows? I just really do wish the left weren't so reactionary. I wish the left could define the debate once in a while.

I say this knowing that I, myself just jumped down KidCarter8's rabbit hole, commenting on his diversionary tactic as if it were anything other than what it is. In my defense I'll say that KidCarter8 was at the bottom of a dog pile, so a change of subject was called for. Also, I'm an occasional hypocrite.  So sue me.

Oh, and this issue (of not driving the narrative) is national (at least) not just here.
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