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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 09:07:02 PM »

California governor projects "56% of state's population will be infected" in the next 8 weeks

New York City expected to run out of medical supplies in 2 to 3 weeks

Mike Pence says we're in good shape and Kid says it will be all over in 6-8 weeks. Or 6-10 weeks, depending on whether he is misrepresenting Oz or Gates.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 09:04:51 PM »

Josh.
I notice no one on here comes to your defense.

No need to defend me from you, Ward.

Or, as you would put it, "I notice nobody on here comes to your defense," EVER.

But you still are pretending not to understand what "something for nothing" means and it's hilarious.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 08:35:21 PM »

Damned socialists trying to take over the country, promising something for nothing!

Something for nothing?
Say What?

So challenging English is for you to understand.

You made the claim. Not me.
Explain yourself.

something pronoun

some·​thing | \ ˈsəm(p)-thiŋ  , especially in rapid speech or for sense 2 ˈsəm-pᵊm \
Definition of something (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: some indeterminate or unspecified thing

for preposition

\ fər, (ˈ)fȯr  , Southern also (ˈ)fär \
Definition of for (Entry 1 of 5)
8a—used as a function word to indicate equivalence in exchange
$10 for a hat

nothing pronoun

noth·​ing | \ ˈnə-thiŋ  \
Definition of nothing (Entry 1 of 4)
1: not any thing : no thing
leaves nothing to the imagination

In other words, exactly what people like you (and Mitch and Trump) have been complaining that the socialists want to do.

I used the phrase, this time, but you have used it plenty of times, I am sure.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 08:24:24 PM »

In the "too little, too late" department comes Florida's governor:

"Spring Break's done," says Florida's governor
From CNN's Denise Royal & Chris O'Meara/AP

This comes a day after DeSantis said:
“We’ve seen some big crowds on the west coast of Florida and I’ve had a chance to speak to mayors on both coast today,” DeSantis also said, according to a local NBC affiliate. “If … they want to continue to [leave the beach open], we want them to have the freedom to do that, but we also want them to have the freedom to do more if they see fit.”

But here he is, the next day, after he finally understood that it was a serious problem that he needed to address.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he issued an order Thursday morning to limit gatherings on beaches to no more than 10.

"So what you've see now is a lot of the sheriff's departments have instituted protocols … Cocoa Beach, major spring break destination went down 70% since my order. And so, I think that's a more prudent approach to do social distancing," the Republican governor said.

The governor also wants Spring Break vacationers to know that the party is over.

“Since I issued my directive, anybody who's put that in place, spring break’s done. Any place to go for bars and all this done. They don't have a place to go.”

DeSantis added that he spoke to the US surgeon general recently about social distancing. He doesn’t want people living in the Sunshine State to stay inside all day if they feel fine.

“They [medical experts] want you to social distance, of course, but they actually encourage people to get fresh air. They just don't want you congregating in big groups. And so, if you have a Floridian that, you know, goes walks their dogs like a married couple on the beach, as long as you're not within six feet of each other, they view that. And, you know, that's a healthy thing. And so, I think it's important to allow that if the local communities want to do it, to be to be able to do it," he said.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 08:12:10 PM »

Damned socialists trying to take over the country, promising something for nothing!

Something for nothing?
Say What?

So challenging English is for you to understand.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 08:11:21 PM »

Trump is the turd in the nation’s bedsheets.

Fox whores like Kiid are the national incontinence.

A poet you are not

Please - join the masses in banding together.  Your time is not being used wisely.

We're banding together for the good of the nation, while the conman you admire so much are continuing to try to destroy the country and you are slavishly enamored of every step he takes and each lie he tells.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 08:06:10 PM »

Pence says "the private sector" will provide enough medical equipment
From CNN's Nikki Carvajal

Pence engages in hyperbole, trying to mislead the public about how bad the shortage is:

Vice President Mike Pence stressed “the private sector” will help get more medical supplies to hospitals across the country, but there’s widespread skepticism that will be enough.

“We continue to work with healthcare providers and businesses to identify more supplies, much more importantly across the private sector,” he said.

Companies have now increased “by tens of millions” their production of N95 masks, according to the vice president.

“On the subject of ventilators,” he continued, “we are working with healthcare providers around America and suppliers we literally identified tens of thousands ventilators can be converted to treat patients.”

“We are remaining confident that we'll have the ventilators that we need as the coronavirus makes its way across America,” he assured.
The Department of Homeland Security estimates that should the virus become "very severe" 38 million people will need medical care, and 9.6 million people will need hospitalization. Of those, an estimated 2.9 million people will need to be admitted to intensive care units, easily overwhelming the nation's current capacity.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 06:09:22 PM »

The US has finally started doing mass testing - not as big as it needs to be, but better than it hsa been.

Our total cases jumped 45.5% from yesterday to today (so far).

Italy went up 15%
Netherlands went up 19.9%
France went up 20.4%
Spain went up 22.4%
Germany went up 24.3%
The UK went up 25.5%.
Austria went up 32.4%.
Switzerland went up 35.5%
Ireland went up 52.3%.
Israel went up 56.4%.

The world went up 11.7% in total cases. Deaths went up 11.9%.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 05:52:06 PM »

Damned socialists trying to take over the country, promising something for nothing!

Mitt Romney thinks giving each adult $1,000 would help the economy, as does Sherrod Brown.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/16/21181872/mitt-romney-ubi-coronavirus-economic-plan-andrew-yang

Mitch McConnell outdoes that, proposing $1,200 per adult.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/mitch-mcconnell-proposes-giving-1200-per-person-in-coronavirus-stimulus-report/?fbclid=IwAR2hj67XxdYopFD59auc4fZdMCBMi3zhmyl0g7mKKTM1eMcik5Ms4tJfh2Y

But Sen. Tom Cotton proposed a monthly payment of $1,000 per person! He has since backed off that and settled on $1,000 per adult and $500 per dependent.
https://www.cotton.senate.gov/files/documents/Cotton%20Coronavirus%20Response%20Plan.pdf

Bernie Sanders suggested $2,000 per month.

Andrew Yang is fascinated by all those socialists.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 04:48:28 PM »

You know, it's childish and silly.  But Trump is reacting to Chinese officials spreading rumors that the virus was started by Americans military in China.  So he's upping the ante and pushing back at them.  It's not presidential and this could be handled quietly behind closed doors, but Trump is reacting to nonsense and trumping it.  He knows that his voice is louder than what he's responding to.  So I don't see racist intent here.  Just shutting up the BS that came his way.   Of course, it's a poor way to handle an important relationship.  But it is amusing nonetheless.

If he hadn't done the same sort of thing, with or without provocation, I might agree with you. But he has, for decades.

And that he turns to this methodology rather than another is because racist attacks are a standard go-to for him.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 04:46:53 PM »

The buck stops over there, redux:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/politics/trump-masks-ventilators/index.html

President Donald Trump shrugged off responsibility for providing more medical equipment and gear to strapped hospitals combating coronavirus, saying Thursday there are "millions" of masks available to workers but that it was up to individual states to ensure they are well stocked amid the pandemic.

His comments contrasted sharply to pleas from health care workers who are running out of surgical masks and fear there won't be enough ventilators to treat patients who contract the disease.

And it came as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began advising nurses they could begin using bandanas or scarves as makeshift masks when treating patients with coronavirus -- guidance Trump said he was unfamiliar with and that came as a surprise to the White House when it was reported early Thursday.

Increasingly defensive in the face of questions about his administration's response, Trump said his administration was scaling up its purchase of masks but that states would need to sort out who gets them. He said "nobody in their wildest dreams" would have anticipated the need for more ventilators, which hospitals worry may run short as more patients require them.

He said he would use the Defense Protection Act.

Then he said he might, but only in the most extreme case.

Then he chastised the press, claiming they had no idea if he had or had not used it.
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"Nobody in their wildest dreams" would have anticipated the need for more ventilators, unless they read the report which stated that explicitly, as well as other items we are short on!

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 03:46:26 PM »

What Kid told us Dr. Oz said:

".....6-8 weeks - we should be through the worst of it"


-  Doctor Mehmet Oz

What Dr. Oz actually said:

We've got 15 days of holding our breath," he said. "In two weeks we will know exactly how successful we are. We can begin to figure out which levers to modify to release the challenges that we've offered the American public and then about six to eight weeks till we're through the worst of it. I think that prediction is going to turn out to be accurate."

Oz said part of the problem was that, in some cities, doctors are having to take a bit of a "shotgun approach" because of limited access to testing.

"But, once you have testing – which is what they did in South Korea – and you aggressively take folks who are having issues and get them out of the main population, you suffocate this virus, this pandemic, very quickly," he explained. "That's how we can address the virus without suffocating the economy."

And Dr. Oz, himself, misrepresented what the Surgeon General (in whom he expressed faith) said - Dr. Adams did not say that 6-8 weeks would do it:

Asked to provide an approximate timeline of the duration of the virus, Adams said it depends on the public and their adherence to precautions advocated by public health officials, but emphasized that a lasting solution will begin with those at "the community level."

"We have a choice to make. W want to see more people come together, we need our millennials especially, younger people to understand that they are transmitting the disease, the older people are at risk but the young people are the transmitters," he reiterated.

FOX NEWS ADDS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTORS AMID CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

"This is going to take everyone coming together, workplaces, places of worship, schools, all ages, all generations."

Adams also said he is "convinced America is going to do the right thing."

"I'm convinced we will lean into this and we are looking at weeks to a few months before we have our peak and are able to start coming back down."

But what he said to Fox (above) and what he said to NBC News don't quite align, either with each other or with Dr. Oz:

Surgeon General Jerome Adams said on Wednesday that the Trump administration’s recommendation to practice social distancing for the next 15 days is “likely not enough time” to halt the spread of the coronavirus in the US.

“Fifteen days is likely not going to be enough to get us all the way through,” Adams said in an interview on NBC’s “Today.”

But he did emphasize the importance of social distancing over the coming weeks to “flatten the curve” — or slow the spread of the virus in order to reduce the pressure on the health care system.

“We really need to lean into it now so that we can bend the curve in the next 15 days, and at that point, we’ll reassess,” he said. “If we can get America to pitch in for the next 15 days, we can flatten the curve.”

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 03:38:13 PM »

Ahhh, there goes that whacky Bill Gates, agreeing with the quack Dr Oz


https://www.foxnews.com/tech/bill-gates-coronavirus-shutdown-could-last-6-10-weeks

The man who said he couldn't imagine anybody ever needing more than 20MB of memory has spoken about a medical issue.

But... no, he didn't agree with Dr. Oz.

This will vary a lot by country," Gates wrote in response to a question of how long this will go on. "China is seeing very few cases now because their testing and 'shut down' was very effective. If a country does a good job with testing and 'shut down' then within 6-10 weeks they should see very few cases and be able to open back up."

It is not enough to do the testing - have you looked at the reports out of Ft. Lauderdale and the other Spring Break destinations? The beaches are jammed with ninnies who have listened to your president up until this week. And the church in Lousiana. I already posted about the other states that are still allowing big group activities. So, sure - 6 to 8 weeks FROM THE TIME THAT THEY START THE SHUT DOWN.

We are not yet at the "good testing" stage, as I already posted (and you ignored).

Your insistence on maintaining an indefensible position, while quoting people without understanding what they have said is amazing.

Here's Dr. Oz on how to greet people:
https://www.doctoroz.com/article/handshake-vs-fist-bump-how-should-you-greet-people-amidst-covid-19

He endorses the fist bump. Not elbows. Not Spock's "live long and prosper," but hands touching.

His guidance is vital and protects people...
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dr-oz-shuts-down-coronavirus-1203538839/

Except his own staff.
But it turns out you misrepresented even Dr. Oz.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 03:19:26 PM »

https://www.sciencealert.com/who-recommends-to-avoid-taking-ibuprofen-for-covid-19-symptoms

Go ahead and use ibuprofen, except if you're French or Kid.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration

« on: March 19, 2020, 01:32:32 PM »

More GOP congresscritter hi-jinks last week:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/politics/alaska-don-young-coronavirus/index.html

A Republican congressman from Alaska reportedly appeared to downplay the coronavirus pandemic to a group of senior citizens last week, saying it's a problem caused by media "hysteria" and that its deadliness has been "blown out of proportion."

"They call it the coronavirus. I call it the beer virus. How do you like that?" Rep. Don Young said during a luncheon at Mat-Su Senior Services on Friday, reported the Anchorage Daily News, which obtained audio of the event. He was apparently referring to the Corona beer brand.

"It attacks us senior citizens. I'm one of you. I still say we have to, as a nation and state, go forth with everyday activities," Young, 86, said, according to the Anchorage Daily News.

"Again, guys, this is blown out of proportion about how deadly this is. It's deadly, but it's not nearly as deadly as the other viruses we have," Young said Friday, the Anchorage Daily News reported.

And this week, his staff is spinning like crazy:

"It was my understanding that the Congressman was trying to urge calm, stressing his confidence that we will weather this storm," Young's campaign manager, Truman Reed, told the Anchorage Daily News.

Reed added, "This pandemic's impact is very real, growing and causing all of us — our governments, businesses, health care professionals and as individuals — to have evolving views and protocols to face its challenges," the Anchorage Daily News reported.

But the Congressman himself is not done:

"We have to be aware of that because even the President's proposal sounds good, $50 billion, $50 billion we don't have. We're gonna borrow that money from the future generations," he said, the Anchorage Daily News reported.

"We (would) solve a problem right now that's been created primarily by hysteria," he added, the Anchorage Daily News reported.

Young argued that "whether you realize it or not, we are at war now. But mostly because of the presentations by the mass media," the newspaper noted.

Blame the GOP.