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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 08:02:56 PM »
Re:  Biden and the crisis

Dang - it sure does get dicey if reins are being passed and we are still in the middle of this mess

Frankly I feel we'll be well out of it by then, but who knows?

I understand that Herbert Hoover felt the same way, Kid.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 07:33:32 PM »
If the night continues like this for Sanders, his remaining excuses for staying in the race will have dwindled even further.

Right now, FL is looking like Mississippi, Missouri, and Michigan - not a Sanders county win in the entire state. And a nearly 3 to 1 ratio for Biden in his victory.

Obviously, Illinois and Arizona have not closed yet and for that matter there were still people voting in FL as the official closing time came and went. But... there is little reason to expect substantial differences. Arizona might be closer, but a 60-40 Biden win doesn't really help Sanders.

And the reason is not the turnout. It is not electability.

It is the belief that Biden will be better in this crisis.

And nothing Bernie said in that last debate even came close to touching on that issue in a way that helped.

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Football / Re: NFL
« on: March 17, 2020, 06:46:40 PM »
I was priviledged to watch the best that ever was, at arguably the most demanding position in sport, for two decades.

How do you adequately thank the guy who brought you fun and so much excitement, so much joy, and so many championships.

He made my life better.

It sounds dumb but its true.

So thanks Tom you were special and you will be missed.

You could write across the sky in letters
that would soar a thousand feet high
"To Sir, with love!"

He made many people's lives better in immeasurable ways.

I hope somebody signs him for what he wants, but if not, I hope he eats his words and returns.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 06:41:57 PM »
I know you all have this but just in case:


https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/aboutlawsregulationsquarantineisolation.html


Mayor deBlasio,who in contrast to Gov Cuomo has gone to great length to make it appear his job is tougher than everyone else, says NYC needs to be ready to shelter in place.

President Trump says no decision on national quarantine has been arrived at just yet.

Ward has let him know, in no uncertain terms, that the Constitution won't allow Trump to declare one and the president is considering his options.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 02:37:17 PM »
Trump administration working to send checks directly to Americans

The Trump administration is working to send money directly to Americans in a bid to curb the economic fallout of the coronavirus crisis.

“We’re looking at sending checks to Americans immediately,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told reporters at the White House.
Mnuchin said the administration was looking at ways to provide the checks within the next two weeks.

He also said the administration will allow Americans to defer up to $1 million in payments to the Internal Revenue Service for 90 days.

Mnuchin said the IRS would not charge interest or penalties for the deferral. He said corporations could defer up to $10 million in IRS payments.

CNN’s John Harwood also asked President Donald Trump and Treasury Sec. Steve Mnuchin about the logistics of an economic stimulus idea that could give $1,000 checks to Americans, which is gaining some bipartisan support.

Mnuchin expressed some support for the idea and it would be discussed during his Capitol Hill meetings.

“I think it’s clear we don’t need to send people who make a million dollars a year checks. But we like — that’s one of the ideas we like. We’re going to preview that today and then we’ll be talking about details afterwards,” Mnuchin said.

Trump chimed in, saying, “I think we’re going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible. That may not be an accurate way of doing it because obviously some people shouldn’t be getting checks for $1000. But we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the day what we’re going to be doing.”

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 02:20:56 PM »
Wearing a mask will provide a fair degree of protection, and in conjunction with other measures will prevent infections and save lives.

I'm glad you know more than the scientists, Bo.

Do as you will.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 12:19:21 PM »
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Unlike NIOSH-approved N95s, facemasks are loose-fitting and provide only barrier protection against droplets, including large respiratory particles. No fit testing or seal check is necessary with facemasks. Most facemasks do not effectively filter small particles from the air and do not prevent leakage around the edge of the mask when the user inhales.

The role of facemasks is for patient source control, to prevent contamination of the surrounding area when a person coughs or sneezes.  Patients with confirmed or suspected COVID-19 should wear a facemask until they are isolated in a hospital or at home. The patient does not need to wear a facemask while isolated.
~CDC

There are three major problems with facemasks.

1) They accumulate the virus on their surfaces, so that handling them will increase contact, not decrease it.

2) People wearing the masks tend to touch their faces to adjust the things more often, not less, than they would otherwise touch their faces, increasing risk.

3) False sense of security. As previously noted, there was a lot of mask wearing in 1918, but to no evident good effect.


It's not just the CDC that's saying this, either.

And the CDC is not crazy about facemasks for the influenza, either, but their cautionary notes on them are different, suggesting only that if you use them in public you probably need to use them at home, also.

COVID-19 (or SARS-CoV2) is more contagious than the flus have been. It's easier to catch if you are exposed and they find facemasks don't reduce exposure.

Do as you wish. I'm done with this topic.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 11:14:25 AM »
This is not the flu.

This is not the flu.

This is not the flu.

There is a reason the common facemasks are not recommended, but the resistance is amazing.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 10:46:12 AM »
Stop! It isn’t fair!



https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article241231726.html

I would say "unbelievable," but it is far too believable and pretty much standard practice for the whining, lying Mitch McConnell.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 03:14:50 AM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487939-gop-sen-cotton-calls-for-monthly-cash-payments-to-americans-during

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Senator Cotton (R-ARK) calls for UBI on a temporary basis. From the article:

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) said Monday he wants to give monthly checks to low-income and middle-class Americans so they can afford necessities during the coronavirus outbreak.

"Let’s cut out employers as the middle men and get relief to people not in weeks but in days," Cotton wrote in a Medium post outlining his proposals for a Senate bill. "We should send relief directly to American families most likely to be in need — those in the bottom and middle tax brackets — to pay for rent, groceries, childcare, and other necessary expenses, as well as to spend at local businesses that are hurting during this crisis."

Cotton, who knocked the House-passed coronavirus response bill as too complicated, suggested the money could come from tax rebates or through unemployment agencies.
...
It's unclear how much money he wants to give Americans in their monthly checks, but according to Business Insider, he proposed $1,000 per adult or $4,000 for a family of four. His office told Business Insider that he has not settled on a hard number.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 01:10:44 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/white-house-guidelines-coronavirus/index.html

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"We'll see what happens, but they think August, could be July, could be longer than that," Trump said of the time when life might return to normal in the United States, where some cities have ordered residents to remain at home and localized lockdowns are beginning to take effect.

"I've asked that question many, many times," Trump said, signaling his own desire to see the crisis end.
Still, he said testing problems that plagued the administration's early response were resolved and gave himself a perfect 10 out of 10 when asked how he would grade his response to the coronavirus pandemic.

A perfect 10 out of 10.

No responsibility for firing the experts.

No responsibility for ignoring the warning the Chairman of the Fed gave him months ago about the impact of the disease.

No responsibility for refusing the WHO masks.

No responsibility for the delay in deployment of tests to keep numbers down.

No responsibility for muzzling the scientists.

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 01:00:13 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/top-health-officials-stockpiled-equipment/index.html

Health officials warn US government does not have enough stockpiled medical equipment to deal with coronavirus :o

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 12:29:10 AM »

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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 17, 2020, 12:02:18 AM »

Three questions to watch:
1. Will we begin to see quarantines imposed by federal or state leaders?
2. How will federal resources be deployed to assist in state and local efforts to combat coronavirus?
3. How extensively will coronavirus disrupt our normal civic functioning including courts and elections?



https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/supreme-court-coronavirus-postponed-opinion-cross-exam-honig/index.html

3.  ...Ohio ( for example)is barring any in person voting in its Primary before Election  Day.

It turns out that Ward is wrong about this, too.

And I thought that their Primary was going to be postponed, but a judge turned down the governor.

Early voting:
https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voters/voting-schedule/2020-schedule/#gref

Judge turns down governor's request:
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200316/coronavirus-judge-denies-request-to-move-ohio-primary-to-june-2
LOL
DeWine lost the Court Case which means his decision on Election Day voting is moot.

Yes, Ward, that was what I said. Very good.

The other thing I said was that you were wrong about no voting until election day.
Duh.
DeWine called off the election tomorrow.
Come back on June 2 if you want to vote in person.

No, the state's health director called off the election tomorrow.


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Previous Administration / Re: Trump Administration
« on: March 16, 2020, 10:39:57 PM »
Another theory holds that the 1918 virus mutated extremely rapidly to a less lethal strain. This is a common occurrence with influenza viruses: there is a tendency for pathogenic viruses to become less lethal with time, as the hosts of more dangerous strains tend to die out[11] (see also "Deadly Second Wave", above).



Hope in some places

Of course, this is not an influenza virus. It's a coronavirus.

Cv19 is a respiratory virus,  and so has some similarities with strains of seasonal flu.   The main difference is its novelty in human populations, which means that immune systems are less able to deal, and thus its greater lethality. SARS,  MERS,  and the common cold are all forms of coronavirus, which is a whole family of viruses with similar morphology and a "corona" of club-shaped proteins.     

The novelty is important for the reasons you give, but incidental to the differences between the two diseases, in many ways.



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(T)here is a fundamental difference in how flu and Covid-19 kill. Many deaths from flu are caused by secondary bacterial pneumonia and heart attacks that develop after the flu has weakened someone's resistance. With Covid-19, most deaths are caused by acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), which causes already-damaged lungs to fill with fluid, and makes breathing difficult. Unlike pneumonia, there is no pharmaceutical treatment for ARDS. That is why a potential shortage of ventilators is so dangerous: They are the last-ditch supportive treatment for Covid-19 while the body heals itself.

The other huge difference is in the ages it seems to impact. The flu clobbers kids just as surely as adults and elders. COVID-19 seems not to.

If it caused pneumonia, there would be something we could do more pro-actively.

The *major* similarity between the two lies in the preventative steps one takes.

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