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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 27, 2020, 03:21:09 PM »

yup, much better league, and in general, group of owners, great mgmt at the top makes up for a few Dolans — love to see the season continue, but am completely down with however whatever players decide. Look like it will, players, governors, league office, NBPA meeting this afternoon:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-boycott-live-updates-players-agree-to-resume-playoffs-per-report-league-eyeing-friday-or-saturday/live/


*** But does that mean our racist house imbecile returns too? If so, this bud's for you in advance:
"Coronavirus: Texas health officials issue warning after spike in people ingesting bleach to treat disease" https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-texas-poision-centre-bleach-ingestion-warning-a9687936.html

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Basketball / and of course, the Knicks cannot help but be the Knicks...

« on: August 27, 2020, 02:01:03 PM »

botching everything in a very Bo-eque fundamental misunderstanding of the situation.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2020/08/27/nba-protests-jacob-blake-knicks-statement

“The league’s decision”? The decision was taken entirely out of the league’s hands. That statement completely erases the significance of the players’ actions. It attempts to frame the postponement of the night’s slate of games as another example of the NBA’s corporate-friendly brand of social justice. It denies that the players have agency here and that they have the power to force the league to do things it doesn’t want to do.

It’s not surprising that the Knicks, of all teams, would be the ones to botch the response. After all, this is the franchise that sat on its hands refusing to make even the simplest statement against racism after the killing of George Floyd, before finally saying something two weeks later.

No matter what the Knicks say, though, the public realizes that the players are the ones holding the cards. If LeBron doesn’t want to participate in the playoffs, then you don’t have any playoffs. A business is nothing without the people who make it what it is—and that’s not the bosses.

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Basketball / Re: Assholic

« on: August 27, 2020, 12:58:57 PM »

So did Les just use the term junglebunnies and in such a way as to attribute it to a paraphrase of me?

Why yes, Les is being a bigger asshole than usual.
Stop attributing racist shit related to slavery and racial slurs to me.

Yes I did. Because that's the attitude you're espousing.

Bo Knows What's Best for Blacks***

from now on I'll just abbreviate BKWBFB

***especially those indigent homeless types in the margins

Bo also knows how whites are supposed to feel BAKHWSF

***because he knows how white people are supposed to feel, at least one, himself -(don't really give a F, here's what's best for you, let's just keep feeding at the trough please)


***P.S. I'll be sure to send on your two-minute top of the head suggestions to the NBA players association cause I'm sure they're in dire need.

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 27, 2020, 12:43:27 PM »

No they aren't.
If they were, why wouldn't they just cut out the NBA and the owners -- old white billionaires mostly-- and stage their own games and make all the money instead of just half?

Oh, they are, as much as you'd like to think they're just slaves who are best served hopping to the tune for their meals. And they've certainly thought about that and will continue to, and when they think it's in their best interest they will.

Also, in case you haven't noticed there are white players in the NBA.  Roughly 20%.

Oh, I've noticed, and in case you haven't noticed, many of them, like many white people outside the league, care just as much about these issues as black people.

***this isn't 1961
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/27/bill-russell-nba-boycott/

Russell led the infuriated pair and K.C. Jones, another Black player and future Hall of Famer, to the room occupied by legendary Celtics Coach Red Auerbach. Upon hearing that they intended to take the next flight back to Boston, Auerbach asked that the players reconsider, asserting that the seats were already sold and the game would be played.

Russell, who by then had helped Boston to four of its 11 championships with him, would not be swayed. Instead, he made it clear that it was better for him and his Black teammates to walk away, and leave Lexington with a nonintegrated game.

“I told Red we were leaving,” Russell recalled in 2013. “I said it was because it was important to me that everybody, everywhere, knows that the Black players are deciding they’ll stand up for themselves.”

A fifth Black player for the Celtics, rookie Al Butler, left with them, and two Black players for the Hawks joined the boycott. One of those St. Louis players was Cleo Hill, a first-round pick earlier that year who was also denied service in Lexington. He earned the wrath of the Hawks’ owner, was subsequently ostracized by Hagan and other White teammates and — in something of a foreshadowing of the fate that would befall Colin Kaepernick — he was out of the NBA after that season.

By contrast, Celtics owner Walter Brown told Auerbach that the game should not have been played at all and vowed to “never to subject my players to that embarrassment again.” Ramsey also declared his “100 percent” support for Russell and the other Black players.

“No thinking person in Kentucky is a segregationist,” Ramsey said then. “I can’t tell you how sorry I am as a human being, as a friend of the players involved and as a resident of Kentucky for the embarrassment of this incident.”

However, the team’s biggest star at the time, Bob Cousy, did not say anything about the episode. Despite his friendship with Russell, he never thought to reach out to the center about the racist treatment Cousy saw Russell receive in Lexington, Boston, St. Louis and so many other places the Celtics visited. Many years later, he would send Russell a copy of Ta-Nehisi Coates’s “Between the World and Me” with a note that Cousy said amounted to a “mea culpa.”

“Looking back on it, I should have done more to share your pain,” Cousy said in 2018 of his note to Russell. “I’m sorry I didn’t.”

Not that Cousy’s former teammate, a towering figure in so many ways, really needed anyone to speak up for him.

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 27, 2020, 11:03:09 AM »

Team and NBA support is much more likely and dedicated while the players are working and making money for the owners/league.

lol, keep hopping on the plantation you good little junglebunnies..

The players are the league.

They have the power. They know it. They'll decide what to do with it. The league will follow along.

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 27, 2020, 10:22:25 AM »

The canceling of sports playoffs cause players are tired of seeing a police lynching a week will be an earthquake.

The ramifications will last way longer than a week — across sports. When the Bucks decide to walk, it spread way beyond the NBA.

Players individually and communally participating in actions against injustice in the run-up to election 2020 would be huge. Why do you think they would be on their own?

Each of those players can have a huge impact in their own community. LeBron will always grab his national stage.

Most of the things you are talking about are already happening in one way or another.

Doc didn't wait to get his 5 minutes of mike he was "alotted" in halftime or select a slogan from a preselected list. He just took the fucking mike.

The players (and coaches) have been talking about all of those things, you best believe, and a hundred more well before they came to the top of your head in two minutes of thought.

A strong case can be made to play or not. They'll decide how they want to go and what they think will be most impactful.

It would be great if they just halted play before the end of the deciding championship game to prevent another Masai Ujiri incident...leave it unfinished forever. That would be a statement, lol...

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 27, 2020, 09:16:19 AM »

How many of those players on the remaining 8 playoff teams are actually going to engage in public protests or take any meaningful actions?

Not sure how much money is at stake right now.
But might as well play things out, and both the players and league take some of their earnings and set up a foundation to organize folks to vote, to learn non-violent protest tactics, to spread news/info, and hire lawyers to represent those abused by police at the margins (homeless folks and indigents).

Bo, over there, I don't think you quite get what's going on here. The level of anger.

After Jacob Blake.
After Kyle Rittenhouse was encouraged by the police before the shooting.
Allowed to walk away by the police after the shooting.
The day after a racist president urged him on him by bringing the St. Louis duo on stage at the RNC.

How many? A hell of a lot..most? half? You can bet the two most important. Lebron & Kawhi. They're the two leading the charge to cancel the season.

And as for the earnings share, it's not about a $. It's about enough is enough.
The stuff you're talking about, it's already happening. This ain't some bullshit faux celebrity posing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/24/us/politics/lebron-james-poll-workers.html


If they decide not to play, it's because they decide other things are way more important and they've got things they need to do.

If they decide to keep playing it's because they decide continuing to be on their stage is the best way to amplify their voices, but it won't be to for a dollar slice.

But they've already had a huge impact with the move rippling through sports.

Shut up and dribble ain't happening.

*** I also don't think you get how personal this is. Every black person. Every person of color. This has nothing to do with people at the margins (homeless folks and indigents), though after 400 years, every black person is still "at the margins." Just stop and think for a second. This is how Masai Ujiri's moment of celebration went. Masai F'ing Ujiri.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/masai-ujiri/

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 26, 2020, 06:47:24 PM »

Season over -

see ya at the draft.

lol...dont hurry back! Ain't like anybody gonna miss your cowardly racist ass...

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 26, 2020, 12:17:12 AM »

It's really something listening to Doc on the TNT post-game calling out racist assholes like you! Calling out Trump & the Republicans for pushing out the lies like the one in your siggy...powerful stuff.

"All you hear is Donald Trump and all of them talking about fear. We're the ones getting killed. We're the ones getting shot. ... It's amazing why we keep loving this country, and the country does not love us back."

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 25, 2020, 10:55:41 AM »

Great series of NEW NBA basketball.  Prefer DAL-LAC of course - but watching the best in the world is still precious - even in its bombs away form

It certainly is, isn't it?

Aren't ya glad one smart-as-fuck Democrat (Mr. Silver) overcame the idiocy of your moronic GOP leaders and using brains, not assholes, managed to deliver this gift to us?

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 25, 2020, 10:50:00 AM »

It's good to have guys who play strong D, can score, but are okay as role players not needing the ball.


True.

No hope for Knox in this respect, sadly.  AAA-groomed as a scorer, not a winner.  Nova Bridges the opposite.

Bridges a fine compliment on a team with Booker, Ayton, etc..

Knox. Yes. Oof. Let's see what Payne can do with him.


*** In all fairness, he did improve some areas last season, he really did. At a pace that projects him as NBA-ready in 2034.

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 24, 2020, 10:01:47 PM »

sure, lol, additional file label "can actually be a starter on winning team"

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 17, 2020, 11:35:48 PM »

sorta, making some plays though...

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 17, 2020, 11:09:30 PM »

lol, kiid was blind drunk on a homemade cocktail of straight bleach, hydroxychloroquine, and four ounces of demon sperm.
Missed 32 points 13 boards 3 blocks and oh yeah....the win.


*** and a MASSIVE game high +19 +/-.

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Basketball / Re: Knicks

« on: August 16, 2020, 04:04:24 PM »

.427/.327/.713 as a rookie

3 pt % went down this year

lmao you don't say. hmm..I guess that percentage drop outweighs being the only player in NBA history with over 20 triple-doubles at age 21 or younger

So who ya gonna trust, a shit-spewing coward with an IQ of 20 or Doc & Rick Carlisle

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2904822-doc-rivers-praises-luka-doncic-as-a-blend-of-larry-bird-and-jason-kidd
https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1292307476910493696


I'll take the latter duo + add Chip to make it a power trio....heh