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Basketball / Moving Forward
« on: August 05, 2018, 06:28:55 PM »
"With all of LA’s playmakers the Knicks point guards, Hardaway’s skill set could be a valuable option as someone to get the ball to out in transition, on cuts, or from deep."

Ah, the dawg days of summer...

Charlie Ward likes our point guards.

http://nypost.com/2018/08/04/ex-knicks-guard-sees-trait-that-can-make-kevin-knox-a-star/

Yes, I saw that piece.  Was very lifted by Ward's insights about KK's father and his spiritual/athletic pedigree. 

Charlie was very undervalued as a Knick.  His (and Houston's) evangelical predilections rubbed many Knicks fans the wrong way, and he was not the second coming of Tiny Archibald/Tim Hardaway Sr. offensively. 

But over time he became a dependable three point shooter, and was an effective facilitator, defensive stalwart and one tough little motherfucker (if one might characterize a 6'3" Heisman winning quarterback as...little). 

I have shared this particular story countless times, but it bears repeating.  I will always cherish my memory of Ward establishing position just to the right of the paint, a few feet above the baseline, and fearlessly holding his ground while absorbing an offensive foul from Shaquille O'Neal, who had built up a full head of steam, and simply obliterated Charlie. 

Who got the call. 

"If holding Hardaway spoils our starphucking expoditions, it could be a blessing in disguise long term, pushing the opening of our contention window back to 2021 or 2022, but ultimately making it more sustainable with homegrown talent getting a chance to mature together into major roles."

GETTING A CHANCE TO MATURE TOGETHER. 

I am in no rush to expedite, nor to preclude the process, by rushing headlong into the free agent scrum, a la Donnie Douche Bag deconstructing our roster, and jettisoning all of our assets and youth in a pyrrhic pursuit of LeBron and Melo. 

There is something to be said for a stable, patient, purposeful path forward, step by step, inch by inch.  Obviously, Brad Stevens and  Danny Ainge deployed more than just youth and draft picks, but they did not unduly rush things, stockpiled assets, and at key junctures in the process, added veteran free agents and made trades that rebounded in their favor, as their young players matured and blossomed together in Coach Stevens' purposeful, forward-thinking modern system. 

As an acolyte of Pat Riley, David Fizdale projects a nice combination of charm and toughness, and while supportive of his youth, and something of a charmer therein, one never loses sight of the fact that he DEMANDS ACCOUNTABILITY and as he is wont to assert, I AIN'T GIVING NOBODY NOTHING--THEY HAVE TO EARN IT. 

As such, defense, Defense, DEFENSE. 

Are defenders made or are defenders born?

Debate amongst yourself. 

Still, one thing which seems manifestly demonstrable to me, is that on a very fundamental level, DEFENSE REPRESENTS A SHARED COMMITMENT. 

So the fact that in Robinson, Ntilikina and Porzingis (let alone, until further notice, Thomas, Lee and Noah) we have a cadre of long, tall, big wingspan YOUNG athletes with a genuine defensive pedigree and enormous upside, bodes well moving forward for players such as Kanter, Hardaway, Knox, Hezonja and Burke, who are genuinely gifted offensively, but have a considerable amount to prove on the defensive end of the ball, both individually and as a coherent collective.  If sharing is caring on offense--ball movement and good screens, cutters and movement and motion, IT IS EVEN MORE CRITICAL ON DEFENSE.  For years the Knicks have been seemingly committed to complicated, infuriating help schemes, where there was less emphasis placed on man a mano responsibilities.  Of course help, having your brother's back, is critical to any successful, coherent defensive scheme, but it starts with personal responsibility, and physical commitment to getting over screens and making even the most gifted offensive juggernauts work, and WORK HARD for everything they get, and to pay a physical price in terms of no layups, no EZ Pass lines through the paint, and the cumulative effect of how fatigue factors in come the fourth quarter. 

If our defense is keying our offense, as was the case under Holzman, Riley and Van Gundy, and if our young points can reflect the toughness and efficiency and leadership shown by the likes of Frazier and Ward, be our 2018-2019 Knicks a playoff or lottery team, and if the Knicks fans can chant DE-FENCE and have it translate on the court to EFFORT and TENACITY, I will consider myself well-served as a fan. 

As for all of these schemes regarding salary cap space, I respect where some of you are coming from, but speaking only for myself, I do not give a tinker's damn. 

If we are able to reel in good young #1 and #2 picks from the draft, and offer one max contract in 2019-2020, I will consider myself well-served. 

However, let me make it perfectly clear, that I AM NOT MARRIED TO THE INSTANT GRATIFCATION OF A FREE AGENT. 

The right player, the right skill set, the right age, the right position, the right commitment?  All for it.  Al Horford?  A veteran game changer for the Celtics. 

But, if as Facil suggests, we are destined to move forward with what we have, and perhaps forced to suck it up and wait for Lee and Noah and Thomas's contracts to expire, then SO FUCKING BE IT. 

PS: And as a footnote, while Mills and Perry have not tipped their hands regarding possible trades, buyouts, stretch provisions, etcetera, it is my sincere hope that...and I mean this...we retain all of our vets unless a deal comes along that is so advantageous it simply knocks our socks off.  Our youth needs the benefit of veteran mentoring; Thomas for Knox, Hezonja and Vonleh; Lee for Hardaway and Dotson and Ntilikina and Mudiay and Trier; and in particular, NOAH for Kanter and Porzingis and Robinson and Kornet.  While Noah has struggled with health issues, his original contract was ill-conceived, and the chemistry between him Coaches Hornacek and Rambis was unfortunate on both sides, it is worth remembering what a dominating defensive presence, and rebounder, gifted passer and opportunistic pick and roll/screen man he was in his salad days.  Looking at a defensively challenged talent such as Kanter and the intoxicating raw clay that is Mitchell Robinson, it makes a world of sense to me, to afford them the benefit of Noah's heady, teamwork/oriented experience as a top-tier defender.  People need to stop obsessing over his contract.  Fuck it.  That train has long left the station. And given, $18.5-19.3 million is a considerable sum to pay for a back-up center/player-coach, but again, what's done is done, and I fail to see the desperate race to divest ourselves of his contract.  We can always stretch him and open up a roster spot in 2019-2020, or perhaps, having re-established his value as a role player to a contender, entertain a trade with in the final year of his expiring year of his contract.  There is not need to demonize Noah for being a dubious signing, nor to bite our fucking nose to spite our face.  Anyway, I am in a distinct minority here, but I would love to see Mitchell Robinson have the benefit of Noah leaning on his ass in practice for one full season, and mentoring him in the finer MENTAL ASPECTS of being a defensive presence above and beyond his palpable athletic gifts, much as Kevin Knox can only benefit from career role-player/defensive stalwart Lance Thomas showing the uber-talented big wing how to make an enduring impact as something more than an offensive weapon, but as a fully rounded, multi-dimensional leader. 

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Basketball / Likewise...
« on: August 05, 2018, 02:31:46 PM »
"With all of LA’s playmakers the Knicks point guards, Hardaway’s skill set could be a valuable option as someone to get the ball to out in transition, on cuts, or from deep."

Ah, the dawg days of summer...

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Basketball / Draft Day Mulligan
« on: August 02, 2018, 04:14:53 PM »
Meanwhile, having tried a similar approach for years, the Knicks double down on Pups. 

I like Mortiz Wagner's game; he impressed during the run up to the Final Fours. 

Be interesting to see if the Lakers end up with a case of buyer's remorse. 

Mortiz instead of Robinson. 

Russell instead of Porzingis.

[Cough] Ball...instead of Tatum. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: August 02, 2018, 04:10:19 PM »
I take this to mean you think Rondo will beat out Ball for the starting job and for starter’s minutes.

Luke Walton has his work cut out for him. 

LeBron

Rondo, Deng, Beasley, Stephenson, McGee

Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Caldwell-Pope/Hart, Wagner

That's 12. 

Good luck with Pup Development or divining a rotation that keeps everyone involved, everyone happy. 

So, are we to assume LeBron is down with the Pups, or is he going to favor aged in oak vets? 

Stay tuned. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: August 01, 2018, 04:12:23 AM »
He did fine in Westchester but I think he makes more money in China.

Jamel Artis is with the Kings for two years partially guaranteed.

Whatsoever I think of Jimmer...I was always deeply offended by how Kurt Rambis treated him as a Knick when he got his call-up.  Went out of his way to publically mock him.  I was at a Garden game with Merciless; the fans were pulling for Jimmer, and he nailed a three as I recall.  His limitations notwithstanding, the kid worked hard in Westchester to improve his game.  Kurt Rambis was a smug douche, and I am glad that Mills jettisoned his ass and Hornacek's as well, the minute season ended.  Eliminating the last stench of Phil Jackson's uber alles. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: July 31, 2018, 02:00:50 PM »
A Rockets fan twitter site or somesuch speculates that HOU wants to trade Ryanderson's expiring for a longer contract belonging to a wing defender, to replace Ariza (and protects them from Melo's deficiencies, I'd add).

The 4 targets they came up with:
Quote
Bazemore, Courtney Lee, DeMarre Carroll, and Nic Batum were the targets we identified.

Batum would be a nice target and a realistic CHA salary dump.
DMC had a nice year for BKY, after an injury-plagued TOR stint.
Courtly fits in with the Rockets style, and it helps that he doesn't need lots of shots.  But why would the Knix take on Ryanders $20.4M?

Courtly and Lance for Ryan Anderson?
We'd get outside volume shooting while KZ is out.
And more importantly ditch $20M off next year's payroll.
have first crack at re-signing Ryan at a reasonable level if he fits in.
Gives HOU 2 wing defenders.  They have a few roster spots open (and should add a backup PG)

I'd do it.
We had trouble finding value for Courtly last year.  Reportedly Knix were hoping to acquire a 1st rounder which nobody was willing to give, despite Courtly having a strong 1st half of the season.
He's a year older, so good deals aren't going to be easy to come by.

Courtly earns 13m next year, Lance has about 1m guaranteed, so it doesn't save us any money, it saves Houston $7m.  Not worth it for simply more shooting for a lottery bound team.

This deal makes no sense for the Knicks unless we are talking serious draft compensation. Similarly, don't see the Nets or Hawks biting. Hornets, maybe.

Correct you are. 

Anderson Trade makes zero sense unless Houston is willing to pony up draft picks. 

An considering that their pick would fall somewhere between 25-30, and we are saving them serious money, I'd think two #1 picks sounds about right. 

Having said that, why don't we simply get one of those printer guns and fire it repeatedly into our foot. 

Anderson is due 21 million dollars in 2019-2020. 

Yes, by all means, let's take away floor time from Kornet and dump our veteran leadership for a one-dimensional shooter who just turned 30, and pay him his bloated salary as opposed to signing a top free agent in 2019. 

Genius. 

PS: I do get tired, Tired, TIRED of the constant pissing upon Lance Thomas, whose defensive skill set and leadership and abillity to hit the odd three pointer (not unlike Trevor Ariza, no) is apparently not deemed sexy enough for Knick fans.  DUH. 

PPS: By all means, if Thomas and/or Lee could be moved ending contracts or cap space or draft picks, sure, why not...we're in rebuilding mode.  But Anderson was a lousy option in 2017, is a lousy option in 2018, and will be a fucking albatross in 2019...again, a good role player, a drop dead shooter, but motherfuckers complain about Hardaway and Noah's contracts?  Are you shitting me? 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: July 31, 2018, 12:21:19 PM »
I wish we traded for Rubio when available.
We would have some stability at PG.
Would make the whole team function better.
And we'd be further along.


Seems if you had someone on ignore previously, they are still on ignore in the new version, despite no explicit Ignore button. 
So I'm guessing you can go into your Profile Settings and add someone to Ignore from there.  But I haven't actually looked into it.

Love Rubio.  Indeed. 

You are PRESUMING that the second-hand sources we were privy to were actually...correct

Ostensibly, the Wolves were willing to trade Rubio for Rose. 

Ostensibly, Phil Jackson was insisting on the Wolves adding Bjelica to the package. 

I'm not sure I buy into either scenario. 

Trades, that go down, it would seem, time and time again, are not played out in the media. 

Having said that, a great facilitator...a good rebounder and defender. 

A career .385 FG%.  Upped his efficiency considerably last season. 

Better team mates?  Better system?

Reminds me of the tears which flowed when Dolan put the kibosh on the Kyle Lowry deal, as if the Lowry who evolved under Coach Casey, would have done vaguely as well in our chaos oven. 

I'm happy with our current PG scrum. 

And if, God forbid, Kyrie Irving came available in the summer of 2019, well, que sera, Ricky Rubio. 

PS: I'm not feeling all that confident that Kyrie represents a real option for us.  Celtics are capable of getting to the NBA Finals.  Of course, Porzingis-Knox-Irving could make for a viable contender, but I do not see Irving leaving the Celtics. 

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Basketball / Zup The Down Staircase
« on: July 31, 2018, 09:30:10 AM »
I think our pups will benefit from a consistent system, unbridled competition, and team mates who can create their own shot. 

Worth noting that while Fizdale is willing to toss his pups into the deep end of the pool, to make their way and own their mistakes, Hornacek/Rambis basically abdicated player development.  Jack was a solid sender, and a positive presence, but Frank should've gotten more burn. 

I thought the difference between game 1 and game 2 of summer league was promising.  Frank needs to look for his own offense more often, though I thought it was interesting that when pressed, Coach Fizdale indicated that in terms of Ntilikina's development, he doesn't want to completely contradict Frank's base instincts and who he is as a player. 

A delicate balancing act. 

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Basketball / Indy
« on: July 30, 2018, 08:40:03 PM »
MSG replaying an early November game at the Garden where Knicks took on the Pacers. 

Occurred to me while taking it in, that both O'Quinn AND McDermott, and their back door game chemistry, are together again on the 2018-2019 Pacers. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: July 30, 2018, 03:21:36 PM »
Hoopshype had something about that, mentioning that Strickland is Kyrie's godfather (?), and connecting rather far apart dots I presume.


Melo continues to sound like a doofus.
His initial response to this Summer was he wouldn't take a buyout and wouldn't accept subsequently getting waived.  His pride was in his own way.  Coming off the bench is not on the table for him, because he doesn't consider team success, but just his own desire/want/self-estimation. 

Othersowise, glad they got this place back up and running.  I thought it might be down for weeks.

Perry got rid of his contract.  No way the team could move forward with such a me-Me-ME presence. 

Perry got back some decent assets: Kanter...Mudiay...Robinson. 

Melo heading where he wanted to be.  Knicks heading where we want them to be.

Kevin Knox and Timmy Hardaway will get to be the Alpha Dawgs while Kristaps is rehabbing.  Hezonja will get an opportunity to show what he's got under the hood with consistent minutes.  Kornet gets real minutes to make a case for himself both as a back-up center and a genuine NBA stretch-4.  Mitchell Robinson has the opportunity to make a case for himself as one of our BIGS of the future.  Enes Kanter will have an opportunity to be a dominant presence at the five-spot, an offensive focus in the blocks (and, God willing, like Embid, at long-range) and to demonstrate to Coach Fizdale and GM Perry's satisfaction that he can be more than a one-trick pony (well, two tricks, with low post scoring and an elite level of rebounding) and that he can evolve into a dependable defender and rim protector.  The PG scrum of Ntilikina-Burke-Mudiay will get to battle for minutes and survival.  While pups such as Dotson and Vonleh get to make a case for themselves as rotation players. 

Baby steps. 

Onwards.   

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Basketball / Meanwhile...
« on: July 30, 2018, 01:38:00 PM »
There was a YouTube posting about our Platinum Pup, Kevin Knox. 

At the conclusion, there was a picture of the coach/mentor Kevin has been working out with. 

ROD STRICKLAND.

Interesting, no?

Would indicate that he is still working really hard on his handle. 

Keep growing young man, keep growing. 

6'9"

6'11" would be sweet. 

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Basketball / Re: Knicks
« on: July 30, 2018, 01:33:50 PM »
Yikes.  I guess all past history just got wiped.

Facil and BoD didn't get wiped, anywho. 

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