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1  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 18, 2018, 11:03:56 PM
next year at this time we will be having the exact same  conversation.

who do we draft at 9.

of course if Clyde is right and KP sits out the year we are talking top 5 pick.



Wanna wager a pizza on that?

if Kp sits the year out the  yes I do my friend.

a NY pizza of course.  one of your choosing  and on me of course.


Cool.

Glad to see that you're remaining positive going into 2018-2019. 

Maybe you and Miras can have T-Shirts made up.

"Top Five Pick In 2019...DON'T GO, KNICKS."
2  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 18, 2018, 07:03:55 PM
next year at this time we will be having the exact same  conversation.

who do we draft at 9.

of course if Clyde is right and KP sits out the year we are talking top 5 pick.



Wanna wager a pizza on that?
3  Sports / Basketball / The Other Bridges on: May 17, 2018, 10:52:04 PM
I believe it was Kam making a push for the OTHER BRIDGES...The Kid From Michigan State.  

Mikal Bridges has two NCAA championships, but there are some in the Knicks organization who believe Michigan State sophomore Miles Bridges has the larger upside.

https://nypost.com/2018/05/17/miles-bridges-intrigues-knicks-as-they-prep-for-powwow/

There will be an endless stream of this for the next month.  

Again, sports fans, there are some projections that the Bulls might take a flyer on Mikal Bridges.  

And so, MILES BRIDGES appears on the Knicks Radar Screen.  Likewise, questions about Michael Porter's back might cause him to plummet right into our laps, which would be a conundrum, would it not, as apparently he has had back issues all through high school, but now says he feels better than ever.  Don't think he would fall past both Dallas AND the Bulls. 

Looking at the Bulls roster, they appear to have a glut at Center: Asik.  Lopez.  Felicio.

And at PF: Markkanen.  Portis.  Vonleh.  

At SF?  Paul Zipser.  

Next year is the final one on Lopez's contract.  

Asik has a player option for 2019-2020.

Felicio is signed through 2021.  

So, do the Bulls go for Carter or Bomba?  Or do they jump on one of the Bridges?  If Porter falls, do they pounce?  
4  Sports / Basketball / PS on: May 17, 2018, 08:14:03 PM
Perry insisting that the Knicks will take the best available player at #9. 

"If that's a wing, so be it." 

So, again...BRIDGES. 

Having said that, Knicks have already had meetings with Porter and Sexton. 
5  Sports / Basketball / Re: Pro Tip on: May 17, 2018, 07:26:37 PM
Don't waste time on nbadraft.net....they lost all their best talent years ago and do little actual scouting.

Draftexpress remains the gold standard, but now requires an espn subscription.

Jonathan Wasserman for the Bleacher Report is a distant second in terms of being respected. That still makes him the best free option.

Nbadraftjunkies.com are the up and coming option. They have lots of video and interesting analysis.

TheStepian and Cole Zwicker are also interesting, but sometimes seem bold just to get noticed.

Be wary of random sites that don't actually do scouting (like, say, hoopshype).



Thanks, Biz. 

Don't use it so much for their handicapping, which is dubious (they've had us taking Sexton for quite a while)...so much as historical archives and individual scouting reports, incomplete as they are compared to DraftExpress (if you have a subscription, and can thus cut and paste to the forum, would be helpful, as I am not subscribing to ESPN). 

MEANWHILE...no matter how picks 1-through-8 shake out, Mikal Bridges seems destined to fall to the Knicks at #9. 
6  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 17, 2018, 07:18:10 PM

Got bent over the back of a straight back chair on the whole, save for the McAdoo Trade...pretty good return there with #1 picks yielding Bill Cartwright & Sly Williams (and Larry Demic...oh well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad).  

The McAdoo trade, engineered by John Y. Brown, (of KFC and Phyliis George fame) was one of the most infamous trades in Celtic history, and almost resulted in Auerbach quitting the Celts and going to the Knicks.

Right you are. 

I'd forgotten all about that.  Now it makes sense. 

Not a typical Auerbach Return...he was usually the one dealing from the bottom of the deck. 

Famously, Red was in a taxi on the way to the Boston airport to fly to NYC and sign on with the Knicks, but the cabbie made an impassioned pitch and Red remained. 

Legend has

the cabbie told him he couldn't get good "Chinese" in NYC.

If that trade wasn't made, and the Celts had kept the #3, 9 and 21st picks, one wonders if Red might have packaged those picks and traded up for the #1 pick.




He managed to flip McAdoo after 20+ games for draft picks from Detroi, as I recall, that became THE #1 PICK IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING DRAFT, which Red quickly re-packaged to Golden State so they could grab Joe Barry Carroll with overall #1 pick.  In exchange, Red copped Robert Parish and the #3 pick, with which he picked...KEVIN MCHALE.  So...NOT TOO SHABBY. 
7  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 17, 2018, 04:57:53 PM

Got bent over the back of a straight back chair on the whole, save for the McAdoo Trade...pretty good return there with #1 picks yielding Bill Cartwright & Sly Williams (and Larry Demic...oh well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad).  

The McAdoo trade, engineered by John Y. Brown, (of KFC and Phyliis George fame) was one of the most infamous trades in Celtic history, and almost resulted in Auerbach quitting the Celts and going to the Knicks.

Right you are. 

I'd forgotten all about that.  Now it makes sense. 

Not a typical Auerbach Return...he was usually the one dealing from the bottom of the deck. 

Famously, Red was in a taxi on the way to the Boston airport to fly to NYC and sign on with the Knicks, but the cabbie made an impassioned pitch and Red remained. 

Legend has
8  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 17, 2018, 04:42:41 PM

Got bent over the back of a straight back chair on the whole, save for the McAdoo Trade...pretty good return there with #1 picks yielding Bill Cartwright & Sly Williams (and Larry Demic...oh well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad). 
9  Sports / Basketball / Thanks, But No Thanks on: May 17, 2018, 03:02:45 PM
Hypothetical question: would the knicks trade Ntilikina  for Rozier?

Would the Celtics?

Already have a defensive stopper in Smart who knows the system.

And Rozier surely aged in the oak like a fine cognac, and when it was time to pour, the spirit was willing and the alcohol content was vibrant.  

Is Rozier more evolved and better overall than Burke at this point at THE POINT.  

Sure.  

Again, when was the last time the Celtics and Knicks exchanged personnel?  I cannot recall.  

I honestly do not see the Knicks trading Frank before he too has had an opportunity to ripen.  

Last time that happened?  We gave up on Rod Strickland because we had Mark Jackson...and DUH...traded him for another PG, no less, though not an emerging star such as Rozier, but an aged veteran on his last legs, in Mo Cheeks.  One of the dumbest trades in Knicks history, and that's saying something.  What's more, we ended up trading Jackson as well, for Charles Smith and Doc Rivers, the latter playing really well for us before a terrible knee injury.  Then we made a great pickup in Derrick Harper, who led us to the finals...and we let him walk without offering him a new contract, not unlike how we blew it on Xavier.

I am hoping that the days of dumbass trades, and eating our youth are done and gone.  

Would the Knicks do it?  Maybe.

Would the Celtics?  Puh-leese.  

But thanks for thinking of us, Banker.  

Go Celtics...NUKE THE FUCKING CAVS. 
10  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 17, 2018, 02:33:34 PM
If we’re gonna reach for a PG, SGA would be the one I reach for.

If a complicated trade back can get you Bridges (likely Mikes) or Williams and SGA for our 9, I’d stop to consider it. On the balance I’d rather pick 9 & 36 looking for BPA. I don’t think point guards come into it at all till 10 or 11. This is being optimistic about Michael Porter.

Ayton
Luka
Bagely
Porter
Bomba
Jackson
Carter
Bridges
Knox
Bridges
Sexton
Young
Smith
SGA

I think this is more likely to be how it shakes out than how it will be selected. Someone up the queue will fall for a guard

Interesting.  

I agree, if Bridges is gone and so is Young.  

Depends on if Carter drops.  

SGA has size and athleticism, and coming out of a good program.  

But the Know kid and the other Bridges would also come into play.  

Possibility of trading down, trying to pick up another #1.  

Again, I could easily see the Bulls pouncing on Mikal.  
11  Sports / Basketball / Meanwhile... on: May 17, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
http://www.nbadraft.net/

If it comes down to Sexton or Bridges at #9, well, that's an easy one.  

If it come down to Young or Bridges at #9, well, that's a bit more dicey.  

In any event, I do not believe that Trae falls our way.  

As for Sexton, yes, he has terrific speed, but at that size, and off of a terrific late season showcase (in lieu of tanking, tank you very much), I am happy with Burke's development.  Ditto how Young also duplicated what Trey offers.  

Would be tough to pass on Trey, but in terms of mature leadership, tenacious defensive focus, a winning aptitude/attitude, and a laser jumper from three point range, not just filling a need, but the best player available at #9.  

Actually, tankers of the world, pretty good draft position.  

If, God forbid, Bridges gets snatched up before us, then that means there is a possibility that Carter, Bomba or even Porter might slip to #9.  Bulls presently projected to take Carter, but I could easily see them falling in love with Bridges.  Which means, depending on how things play out with O'Quinn and Kanter, that Carter could apprentice at PF/C as a place holder for KP, and as a stop gap, Beasley and Lance do double-duty at SF/PF.  

Carter would be one hell of a consolation prize.  

Still, when the Knicks have had winning teams, we've had really effective players at SF, such as Bradley, King, Sprewell.  Mikal would seem, to me anyway, to trigger such expectations.  

Bradley and Spree were both 6'5" at SF.  Cazzie, too.  

Bernard was 6'7".  Don't want to lay that hype and expectation on Mikal.  For all of his considerable defensive prowess and legitimate shooting range and offensive skill-sets, he needs to get stronger, and needs work on creating his own shot off screens and off of his own dribble.  

Still, to those who speak of his limited upside or the folly of being fixated on our need for a SF...Lance has the D but not the O...Timmy has the O, but not the D.  Mikal has gotten better every year in college against top flight competition both within and without of his National Championship roster.  He is eminently coachable, and as BoD has pointed out, with KP-Mikal-French Frank, we have the makings of a solid defensive axis.  

Anyway, truly, there is so much that we need, but solidifying the SF position could have a ripple effect, and help sort out rotations in our back court moving forward.  

Be interesting to see if Perry can pull off some meaningful trades & signings, to sort out some log jams and stabilize rotations while we are waiting on KP and rebooting our collective culture in Fizzdale's image.  

We

Shall

See
12  Sports / Basketball / Oy Vey on: May 17, 2018, 02:02:33 PM
with an very good small forward in Josh Jackson it is clear that Ayton should be  a LOCK for #1.

if they take Doncic , who might be the best player in the draft , they then have wasted the Jackson pick.  they are both small forwards.

to me you build this team around Ayton, Booker and Jackson.

all of them are 21 and under.  

that is a nice core to start with.

Doncic get Kings.  sorry abut that.

of course if Doncic goes first then kings get Ayton and for that they get  very very lucky.,

i';m still thinks NY get one of the Bridges.

PS

KID,

Please don't respond to anything I say.

you are on ignore again.
 i can't stand reading your shit.

This never gets old, does it?
13  Sports / Basketball / Meanwhile... on: May 16, 2018, 10:20:14 PM
Al Iannazzone: David Fizdale is meeting with Enes Kanter in Chicago tonight.
– via Twitter Al_Iannazzone


Seems to me that Mikal Bridges is Knicks #1-A pick.  

HOWEVER, if someone slips to #9, that they feel has more upside as a player, irrespective of whether he is seemingly redundant...watch out. 

To wit:

The Knicks are scheduled to interview Young on Friday, according to his father, and the family has made no secret that New York is a desirable destination. A match, however, is reliant on two fluid factors — whether Young is available when the Knicks pick at No. 9, and whether the Knicks would choose a point guard despite their glaring need for a small forward.
– via New York Daily News


Porter intrigues me.

Was projected as the consensus #1 pick going into 2017-2018, until he got hurt. 

Dennis Smith had a bad injury he overcame, and he's been an up and comer as a pro. 

Porter is 6'10" and has been compared [cough] to [no, make that a BIG COUGH] Kevin Durant. 

We shall see.  I am sure he is on the Knicks' radar. 
14  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 16, 2018, 07:03:13 PM
Based on need Philly will be looking at Sexton, Young, and SGA.

Why in God's name would Philly be looking at Sexton?

When they already have Simmons, Fultz, McConnell and Bayless.  

https://nypost.com/2018/05/16/nba-mock-draft-whos-going-no-1-who-will-knicks-grab-at-no-9/

This mock is interesting.  

Has Cleveland picking right before us and taking Michael Porter when they already have this LeBron fellow.  

Maybe they take Sexton, as their PG rotation seems kind of creaky.  

Wouldn't it be strange if both Bridges AND/OR Porter/Carter are sitting there at #9?

The odds of it being Mikal seem pretty good, and I could not more disagree with Kam's assessment.  
15  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: May 14, 2018, 10:09:09 PM
Kerr's statement speaks far better than I do  that the idea of focusing on positions is out-dated.

Why if we do not move into the Top 3, I am praying for Mikal.  

Other players with perhaps more spectacular skill sets or greater upside, but Bridges is the prototypical modern 3&D 6'7" wing.  
Maybe I'm nitpicking but I wonder if he's a step slow. On the other hand maybe he's Kawhi.

Closest thing we have a shot at. 

Kawhi's body/muscularity coming out of college was more imposing. 

Both pegged defensive stoppers. 

Bridges jumper and offensive game more advances at this point in time.  Took Kawhi 2-3 years, but when he arrived, he was a MF. 

Not unlike The Prophet Nagel.

So...Kawhi...we should be so lucky. 

HOLD THAT THOUGHT. 
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