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1  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 21, 2018, 11:32:40 PM
Saw Lakes last game v. INDy, and I spent about 5 mins trying to figure out who the balding white guy was.  Caruso played well, tossed an oop, nailed a 3, seemed poised.

Looks like neither team played much D, but Knix with 17 turns and lots of fouls.

Clarkson is 25, inconsistent.  
Maybe can develop that in the right system/team.
Last 4 games.
v. NYK   12-19   29 Pts  10 Ass
v. IND   14-19   33 Pts    7 Ass
v. OKC     2-7      5Pts     3 Ass
v. Mem    2-13    9 Pts     4 Ass

A Clarkson-Jr Tim backcourt?  Yikes.
I'd flip Hardaway for CLarkson and slot Clark in at SG.
Get more passing, ballhandling.
2  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 21, 2018, 06:40:57 AM
Bulls started the season 3-20.
Since then are 15-8, and haven't lost to a bad team during that stretch.  If the early part hadn't been such a disaster, they could be at the Knick level and competing for the 8th seed.

Lakers another winnable Road game.
Gotta slow them down.
Then a rested angry GS team, coming off a loss to HOU.
3  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 21, 2018, 05:07:58 AM
Knix have a lot of options.
Could trade a vet (Courtly, Kanter, KOQ) for yute -- and a higher draft spot.  Could try to bolster the starting lineup to make the playoffs.

Probably best to keep the powder dry and try to get in position for when a significant talent comes online.


As for Batum, his injury was to his left elbow.  Not sure if that would affect his shot.  Best stats I could dredge up, in 16 days after 1 day rest 43% FG 34.5% on 3's.  Average/acceptable numbers.  In 9 games with 2 or 3 days rest his FG%'s totally crater.  On 2nd games of B2B's his numbers 40%/32% are low but not horrendous.

4  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 21, 2018, 02:02:36 AM
Caught the last 5 mins of GS v. HOU.
GS played terribly.

Durant gets the ball on the perimeter with CP3 on him.  Carries the ball with one hand, while shoving CP3 with the other arm.  I'm not even sure which violation they called, but O foul.
Durant seemed annoyed that he rarelyr= got the ball back after that miscue with 5 mins left.  I thought Durant looked OKC-level pissy, but Klay and Scurry were 9-31, while Durant shot well (and nearly outscored those 2 combined), so he prolly had a case.
Immediately after the foul, Durant got a D-rebound and then threw the ball away.  Then got one shot the last 4:40.

Dray tries to make a simple short pass to Curry beyond the 3 pt line, just as Scurry is cutting in.  Scurry lunges back, manages to get a hand on it, corrals it, dribbles twice and then ... dribbles the ball right to Harden.
Klay misfired on some 3's.  Scurry got blocked on a 3, McCaw fell down with the ball.  They looked terrible. 

HOU/Dantmanbee now lets CP3 go 1-on-1 and dribble a million times in his imitation of Harden.  He's pretty effective at it.  And players love to do that ish, but man is it boring basketball.  At leats one time Scurry skittered around on D, countering all of CP3's jukes, and then just pick his pocket.  Loved that.

Good W for HOU, with Ariza suspended for visiting the wrong lockerroom (got to get those birthday invites out somehow), and EricGordon going 0-9 on 3's.  Usually Gordon tertiary scoring is a key to HOU's offense.
5  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 21, 2018, 01:44:02 AM
Clarkson is a slick offensive player, but doesn't defend much and isn't a PG.  We don't need another SG.  Unless the plan is to then turn around and cash in Courtly.  But who wants such a defensive downgrade?  

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Batum is the Easter Conference Version of Luol Deng.
Uh, Noah is the East-Dung.

Batum put up 15 / 6 / 6 two years in a row before this season.
Plus defends.  Not many players with such an all-around game.  
And in his prime.  Contract is stiff.  Probably a deal breaker.  CHA was expecting more 15/6/6's.  Would need to seriously check on his health but I could see him bouncing back nicely. (though the long contract is probably prohibitive to find out).

Fwiw, Batum turned 29 Dec 14.
So he'll be 29/30 next year ($24M)
30/31 the year after ($25.5M)
and very likely to opt in to $27M at age 31 (turning 32 in Dec).
So the age isn't really a concern.
In theory, it's all prime years.


Here's a deal we can all rally around:

NYK trades Noah, Lance & Baker and Trey Burke

to CLE

for all their ex-Knicks: FRye, Shump, JEarl, Rose, and Jose

One big happy reunion @ MSG!


I think Hornacekplease has done a reasonable job.  But you see Thibidoux and Atkinson working at a high level and have to wonder why the Knix never promoted stellar assistant coaches.  Probably due to all the distractions and management turnover.  Top asst coaches do migrate to other teams, but usually when their team has a top coach entrenched already.
6  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 20, 2018, 04:25:01 PM
Knix should listen to offers, but be careful.
I'm not really excited about Kemba (but he's form NYC, isn't he?)
I do like Batum, but he's overpaid.

Would be nice to develop Franc, but he's the proverbial 2 or 3 years away.

Wonder if were more likely to make a big deal in order to get to the playoffs and ensure KZ re-signs.
7  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 20, 2018, 09:21:42 AM
Vucevic as an all-star was a bad idea.
He's been out since just before Xmas, missing the last 13 games.
And his team is 13-32.  You have to be phenomenal to make it on such a bad team.

ORL started the season 8-4, including beating Cavs by 19 in CLE, Spurs by 27 & Knix by 13.  Since beating the Knicks a 2nd time on Dec 3, they've gone 5-18. 
8  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 20, 2018, 05:13:37 AM
Kemba and MKG?

Batum is a really nice all-around player.
I used to say he was the new Grant Hill.
Not sure if injuries, the team, or what has impeded him lately.
I always thought he was best at SF and not SG, where CHA plays him.

Last two years before this one, Batman was 15 / 6 / 6.
Which is why CHA gave him a Big Contract.
He was a much better 3-point shooter earlier in career.
He also is a two-way player.  If he gets his shot back (he's had shoulder issues?), he could fit well.
Knix need a legit SF.  And Batum is at $22M this year.

Depends what Knix have to give up.
I like a lot of our team, but we're still a bunch of losers.
I'd prefer re-signing Kemba than Kanter.
And doubt we re-up both Kanter and Bees, so one of them is expendable.
I'd say Kanter (Sell High), since we have 2 or 3 other C's and KZ should play there as well.  And Kanter likely more expensive than Bees -- depending on the weak C market though.

I don't really see much of a match with CHA.
They have enough C's, where we are overstocked.
They have a surplus of SG's (Lamb has redeemed himself this year), where we have an extra body.
Maybe to save them money we include a Willy for Zeller swap in whatever larger deal(?)
9  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 20, 2018, 01:46:21 AM
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The Charlotte Hornets would like engage the Knicks on trade discussions involving All-Star point guard Kemba Walker but New York and Charlotte haven't yet had substantive discussions about a trade involving Walker, per league sources. It seems unlikely at this point that the Knicks will want to meet Charlotte's desired return. Charlotte is hoping a Walker trade returns a good young player or a first-round pick, per ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The Knicks have first-round draft picks and a promising young player in Frank Ntilikina. But the other part of Charlotte's request is a holdup for the Knicks. Wojnarowski reports that Charlotte appears eager to shed one of its less desirable contracts. That would mean the Knicks would likely need to take on extra salary to acquire Walker, which was something New York was hesitant to do in trading Carmelo Anthony over the summer.

Kemba and Batum would likely get us to the playoffs.
But at what cost?
Batum making $25M
10  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 20, 2018, 12:55:38 AM
So we're going with Burke to finish?
I would have put Jack back in for the last 3+ mins ...

Burke front-rimmed a midranger.
Jr Tim misses a pair of FT's.
UTEs get 3 open triples down 3 with the clock winding down.
Knix escape.
Wasn't pretty.
Like a lot of Knick games, it looked like two mediocre/poor teams scrapping.
11  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 20, 2018, 12:41:41 AM
UTEs with 17 TO's.
Sloppy.
Don Mitchell having a poor game.
Knix hitting 3's.
12  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 19, 2018, 10:49:28 PM
I like Ball, but obviously he's got things to work on.
Never liked Tangelo, at least as a PG.

Nets comeback fueled by DMC and Lavert.
Were down 16 in the 3Q.

So RudeBoy back for Utah.
Gobert and KZ already taking turns blocking each other.
Another winnable Road game.
If KNix can play a full 48

Sort of a sluggish, sloppy start.
Crowd has the most energy.


13  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 19, 2018, 10:08:19 AM
Tatum looks rock solid,  I'm impressed how physical he is as a rook.
If he has a normal growth curve, he'll be long-term SF cornerstone.
Donovan Mitch looks terrific too as a scorer.  Bouncy, fearless, crafty.
KNix could really use a two-way Sf like Tatum.

East standings a little shuffled.
Heat rising.  Cavs skidding.
Knix in 10th 3 games out of the playoffs.
And just 1 game ahead of CHA.

Give Spo credit, B2B years where MIA goes on an early year tear.
Just their conditioning and effort can eke out a few extra wins in the holiday/winter NBA doldrums.


Othersowise, "disinterested" has taken on a 2nd meaning of "uninterested."  If everyone uses a word incorrectly, that incorrect meaning becomes acceptable after a while.  As with "literally" taking on the meaning of figuratively the past decade.  I really think this stems from stupid people trying to sound smart and not understanding the meaning  It's made me cringe for the past decade, but such usage is almost certainly unstoppable, even as it literally kills me to hear.

(doesn't that sound dumb?)
14  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 19, 2018, 08:35:21 AM
Enough with the insults.

I watched IND @ POR trying to get a read on The Pacers.  They hung with the Blazers for 3Q's then folded (12 pts in the 4Q).  Oladipo shot poorly (1-9 on 3's).  Colliosn shot well but didn't have much impact.  Sabonis played well but was foul prone.  Lance was a zero, but was ill.  Got outboarded, outhusteled.  But they played without Myles Turn, which hurts -- so there was a good deal of AlJeff and TJLeafblower.  3rd time I've seen Indy and they lost them all and didn't look that great.  I think they have a good record for the team they have.  Always liked Nate McMillan&wife
15  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: January 18, 2018, 10:21:32 PM
Embiid hasn't played much.  Still rather inconsistent.  but the games when he is on and engaged, he is monstrous.  But he does have invisible nothing games now and then as well.
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