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1  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: Today at 01:26:57 AM
Seems Knix bench was 1st in Assists and 2nd Turnovers.
Otherwise looks average to above average in most categories.
2  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 11:04:26 PM
If Kawhi is healthy, the East allows for a long playoff run.

If not, will Kawhi trust the TOR medical staff.
3  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 04:51:09 PM
Thing is is Kawhi healthy now?
How's his leg?

There has been talk that Pop wasn't going beyond 2020.
And with the organization changes and his family situation, one cna see him moving on.
4  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
Courtly and Lance for Ibaka?
We fill our PF void, they fill their SG slot.
Be better if Lance was expiring.  They need to save some money.

They have OG and Siakam.

I didn't realize Van vleet was making nearly $9M.
I thought he was on rook scale.
Guess he was a 2nd rounder who cashed in early.

When I saw TOR last year, OG and FVV looked good.
Siakam and Poetl showed flashes.
5  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 11:07:03 AM
The 6' backcourt?
6  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 10:29:54 AM
I think DeMar and Lowry largely took turns running the offense.  So he could be a de facto point wing.  And DeJounte is a good defender, but much at running a team.
7  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green to the Toronto Raptors for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round pick.
Toronto's first-round pick to San Antonio is a protected 1-20 selection. After one year, it becomes two second-round picks.

For being in a weak position, not bad for SA.
Backup Paddy Mills now their only 3 point threat (Bertans too, but he doesn't play much, and the addition of Poetl doesn't help him).

Their draftee Lonnie Walk 4 plays the same position as DeMar.
DeMar at SF?  Does Manu return?
Tricky times for Spurs.
Without 3-point threats does DeMAr get driving lanes? or is he tasked with shooting longballs (which TOR experimented with)?
8  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 18, 2018, 12:45:24 AM
As I recall everyone was pretty positive when we signed undrafted Baker originally.  He's a scrapper and plays hard.  Could fit on some teams but we saw what an impact adding athleticism had last year when Troy Williams joined up.  But I was always bewildered when folks claimed Baker could play some Point, because he can't.

(Oh, note the third year improvement for Hezonja.  What year is Baker in?)

Of course, Hezonja's 2nd year was a disaster, so no where to go but up.  He had a good month and a half last year.  So needs to become more consistent. 

I'm not really sure what Baker can improve in his game.  Is he suddenly going to become a dead-eye shooter?  Or a rugged defender.  he might be near maxing out his skills now.  I guess he could understand schemes better, feel more comfortable and confident and just overall be more ready and focused.  If we move Courtly, there could be a minor role for Baker.

Fizz has already stated that he mostly prefers SF's at SF.  And we added Knox and Zonja for that purpose.   So if Tim Jr and Courtly primarily play SG, not to mention our combo Guards (Frank / Mud) can/will get minutes there, it's hard to see any floor time for Baker.

Sure there's always smallball.  And until KZ returns, we're fairly thin at PF.  Lance?  Kornet?  Mario?  Knox?  The latter two reflective of smallball.

Even with Tim Jr fully at SF, Baker would be competing with Datsun for 5th G/3rd SG.

9  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 17, 2018, 01:22:59 PM
Noah was a huge mistake.
Baker was a mistake involving a relatively small amount of money.
Hardaway was an overpay to get a guy we had cast off once, but thought has potential.

I'm not sure who were we bidding against with any of them.
10  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 17, 2018, 12:00:49 PM
You think Sacramento are throwing a party they didn't get LaVine?

They should be.

You think BKY is glad they did get Crabbe.
Or MIA is partying over what they are (over-)paying Tyler Johnson.

That's not how it works

That's exactly how it works.

You make an offer for Tim at $14M and it is either matched or not.
(Hardaway and his agent are on record that the Knick offer blew them away, they were shocked by the size of the offer, and signed almost immediately)

You offer undrafted Bakerboy 2/$4M.  He either finds a better deal (unlikely) or takes it.

Missing out on either of them isn't terribly important.  Getting them on a reasonable contract is.

Similarly, you offer injury-prone Noah a 2 year deal (maybe 3rd year team option), and hopefully understand the market (and his health) and make it for less than $17M per.

Now if you think Hardaway is some sort of difference maker.  A guy with all-star potential, or a cornerstone, or might get you out of the 1st round, then you can overpay.  I don't overpay for Hardaway, Noah, Zach Levine, (or Melo).
11  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 17, 2018, 04:43:37 AM
Thanks for the correction, I'll try to remember tha..
I obviously didn't check, but just guessed.
He probably started around $3M his first year and has had increases to $4.5M.  Actually the new rookie scale is much more generous and quite quickly some of these high picks earn around $8M and aren't bargains if they are not performing at least at league average.

Anyway, the point stands.  Mud at $4.5M isn't much risk and not really a salary issue.  Which is I assume what the Knix felt about Baker last Summer.  Problem is Mud was locked into $4.5M, so that was the price for kicking his tires.  No one was competing to sign Baker, so say 2/$4.5M should have been fine.  Or a 2nd year team option on the generous contract he signed. 

A smallish salary but still an overpay.
My original point last year was you reduce Tim Jr.'s offer by $2M a year, and Baker by $2M per and you can sign an extra player, or have an extra $4M cap space.

Yeah, you risk ATL matching, but they probably wouldn't, and I don't care much if we didn't get Tim.  Sort of like with Melo.  I would have offerd him a 4 year deal, the market rate.  And if he didn't sign, oh well, you move on.  Would it have been a big deal not to have the last 3 years we had of Melo.  Could have started the rebuild earlier.

When a team is weak and rebuilding, the cap is important, and if you don't get a targeted player, be it Hardaway, Melo or Baker, you simply move on.  We aren't even making the playoffs let alone competing, so you can't worry about one signing.  Build wisely and watch the cap would be my motto.

12  Sports / Basketball / Re: Troy Williams, We Hardly Knew You on: July 17, 2018, 12:19:49 AM
Fair enough.

Because Mudiay is not due 24 million in 2018 and 27 million in 2019.  

And Kanter at PF is still a hilarious notion.  

Muddy was what a $3M a year roll-of-the-mcDice.
And he's supposed to be a hard worker, good teammate type (with an unformed game and focus issues).

Agree with Chip that we don't want malcontent Whiteside, especially given our C situation.

Kanter certainly kant defend 4's, who are all stretchy these days.

If we were moving Noah and Kanter I'd consider Whitehead, but even then his $27M would be prohibitive.  That trade is a reasonable idea, I just wouldn't touch it.

Also, I don't think MIA would do it anyway.
They get journeyman vet SG Courtly and a broken down Noah in exchange for a guy who was a dominant C just a season back.
13  Sports / Basketball / Re: NBA on: July 16, 2018, 04:16:56 PM
Wilt had a 45 point game.

No idea what Mikan's Finals high was, but back in the very early 50's the winning team might have 80 points, with some finals games won with just 72 or 73 points.

Mikan did average 30.3 in the 1949 playoffs and 31.3 in the '50 playoffs.  But they played fewer playoff games back then, and FG% were much lower.  Mikan 40% FG for his playoff career, which was good back then.

Mikan had a 40 point FInals game (v. the Knicks)
Not sure if that's his high (but think so).
14  Sports / Basketball / Re: Knicks on: July 16, 2018, 04:02:25 PM
Quit while you are ahead

You said Batum is a sf.

If you aren't seeing 40+ combined minutes for Lamb and Monk you are daft

More minutes at Pf than Sg this year for Nic, envisioning a potential Walker, Lamb, Bridges, Batum, Biyombo combo at times

I said Batum was an SG last year and most likely this year as well.
You disagreed about last year (and were wrong).

Batum prefers to play SF.  Where I think he is best.  But basically he needs to be healthy.

You put Batum at PF a good deal and then Tank is just about out of the rotation.    Possible, but Marv will start at PF and cover most of the mins there.  Batum is a Wing.  Will likely play mostly at SG.

Monk/Lamb, one of those is going to get squeezed badly for mins.
My guess is Lamb will have his time slashed, as they want Monk to develop.  And Monk can play some PG (especially when 35 year old TP is injured or resting).  And if Monk falters, Lamb can get some time.
15  Sports / Basketball / Re: NBA on: July 16, 2018, 03:14:21 PM
13 times has someone scored 45 or more in the Finals,
Jordan 4x
West   3x
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