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1  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 22, 2018, 02:09:15 PM
Even if steel production comes back in this country, - which I doubt - those mills are gone and Youngstown is not where the new ones will be built.
I’m figuring it will be about 30 more years before those Ohio MAGA hard-heads figure out that “Yeah, I guess those jobs are not returning…”"Maybe we could move to China and join Ivanka's work force."
2  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 22, 2018, 01:50:39 AM
---When officials in Logan, West Virginia, were contacted last week about hosting Hillary Clinton for a local rally, it didn’t take long for them to respond with an answer: Hell no.
Heil No! We’re going to vote for Donald Trump, a man with a proven record of doing absolutely nothing for anyone else beside himself! After that we are moving to Youngstown, Ohio to try and snag one of those cushy steel-making jobs that He has promised to return to Ohio.
3  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 18, 2018, 01:33:39 PM
Did HRC lose the election because of meddling or because she had an added agenda that did not play well in mid-America? Looks like Russia was playing both sides.
    I believe that the main thrust of the Russian effort was to try and prevent HRC from becoming president. The Russians knew that she was hard-core when it came to them, and she would not let a lot of of Putins reindeer games slide. To actually bet on Trump would have been, at that time, a very long shot. Almost nobody expected him to win. But, since Trump turned out to be the other candidate to Clinton, there wasn’t much of a choice in the matter. They had to support Trump. Even so, for them it was a win-win. If Trump did win then it would almost be like having one of their own corrupt oligarchs in power (Trump being so deeply enmeshed in corrupt Russian financial matters). And even if Trump turned out to be not particularly cooperative with Moscow, they already knew that Trump was a egomaniacal idiot. What could be better than engineering the ascension of a functionally incompetent idiot to the leadership of your chief world-wide competitor/enemy? They rightly figured that their boy (Putin) would be able to dance circles around the Orange Idiot, politically-speaking….and as Helsinki proved, they were right.
4  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 09, 2018, 02:52:33 PM
As I said at the time, false concern.  It was under proper control the entire time.  Played well by this president.
It is clear that Kid has missed his calling in life. If he had worked at it years ago he could have possibly become a member of Trump’s ‘Cabinet of Idiot Advisors’. Perhaps he might have even reasonably had a chance to replace ‘Chunky’ Pompeo. Chunky seems to not have completely mastered the Trump technique of living in your own private reality. “Played well by this President”—what an idiot!
5  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 09, 2018, 12:18:56 AM
Better than before... now Kim has world leader status... and his people know he has bested the “American bastards.”
And everyone (except Trump) knows he got played by a 26 year old punk with a funky hair-don’t. Art of the Deal, in spades. Get a clue, Republicans….you’re hooked up with an idiot.
6  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 07, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
Trump likes to make deals,  right?   And has nothing to hide,  right?
He might like to make deals, but.…..the problem being that he sucks at it…..Look at that swell ‘deal’ he made with North Korea, where we get nothing but a vague promise of a nuclear-free Korean peninsula 'sometime in the future' and they get to continue just as before. Hell of a deal, Trumpy.
7  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 07, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
I disagree. It doesn't depend on that at all. The ideals are either represented or not.

Of course it depends on that. American ideals are not something that were passed down on tablets of stone by some Moses-type of figure, even though we do have a very broad outline in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. American ideals are a product of someones mind. That is what has made the United States of America unique in history as a social experiment. I used to think that the so-called ‘American Ideals’ were generally subscribed to by the majority of decent American citizens, back in the times where a demonstration of 10 far-right Tea-baggers on a Saturday afternoon in the park merely caused a bemused shaking of the head. Now I see that with the emergence of Trump as a facilitator that there are a whole lot more of those Americans who are in tune with things like racism and white nationalism than I ever thought possible in the past. Yes…. I think that the believers in traditional American values, the things which in the past have made America a great country, still outnumber the ugly little people like Jim Jordan and Mick Muvaney, but those people on the other side are more numerous now than I ever thought possible, and closer to their goals than they have ever been. That is why they are so strident now in their support of the traitor Trump, so much more now than they ever were when he first became the Republican nominee. The fulfillment of their long-held hopes and dreams for their vision of this country are so close they can almost taste it. If it is ever going to happen for them now is the time, and they think that a chump like Trump is the vehicle they can ride to that final victory.
8  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 06, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
Shame on any Elder who fails to make life a journey towards less selfishness and more compassion and public service. 
Well, yes Barton…..very commendable. These days though, much of the time I can go with the fact that it’s OK if you just don’t make things worse (as a minimum). Making things worse seems to be the fall back-position for far too many Republicans. Jim Jordan, Paul Ryan, Mick Mulvaney—horrible people—completely unempathetic and heartless.
9  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: July 06, 2018, 06:02:41 PM
If you really knew what American ideals are, you'd understand Trump does not represent those ideals in action or in word.
Depends on what Americans you are talking about, Ut. To millions and millions of people who voted for him he perfectly represents American ideals.
10  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 27, 2018, 02:09:27 PM
   Well, to tell you the truth, I am shocked. Here Mr. Art-of-the-Deal is claiming it as one of his achievements….and yet, upon closer examination, it would appear he is the one who got taken to the cleaners on this deal. Oh well, maybe we can have six months or so where he isn’t threatening to turn N. Korea into a lake of fire. He'll most probably be busy turning our trade deals into similar disasters during that time.
11  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 26, 2018, 02:00:20 PM
In a world without due process, deporting every member of this administration and all the fund raisers associated with it seems to be the safest bet.
   Trump would be whimpering like a big, fat baby within days if he had to go to one of those camps in the Texas desert. I would be willing to go with a plea bargain just to see this puss-filled boil get out of the White House. This deal would stipulate that the U. S. Government drops all the collusion and obstruction charges so long as the would-be emperor resigns and clears out of the WH within a week. All the money laundering and various financial questions would be transferred to the State of New York court system. Donnie Small-Hands is quite experienced manipulating that system. He could delay and obfuscate for the next ten years and never spend a day in jail until that Big Mac diet of his finishes him off at last. At least he would still be free and living in his splendor in Trump Tower. Naturally he would feel absolutely no embarrassment about being a former President of the Nixon class. His fall from grace would have been, of course, someone elses fault.
12  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 26, 2018, 01:06:59 PM
Wait staff should have just spit in her food, like they do with Red.
    I understand the argument that we have to start playing just as down and dirty as they do if we hope to win. I just happen to think that there are limitations to that argument. What kind of a world do we hope to inhabit even should we win the victory if everyone is now acting like the Republithugs? I know….people think that after we have won that we would switch back to a more equitable and civil manner of political discourse, but sometimes when you start down the road of evil it is hard to go back. Winning is addictive. Far more attractive than the defeats Dems suffer on a regular basis these days. And the ends justify the means is always an attractive argument for whichever side employs it. I guess it’s always going to be a matter of degree. I want our side to fight just as hard and as gritty as their side does. But I never want to end up as ugly or dead inside as Stephen Miller or Corey Luendowsky, Steve Bannon or, God forbid, Donald Trump—or sink to the depths that these ‘people’ are comfortable with. There is a reason those sorts of people end up in the Republican Party and not the Democratic. Go high, but never go too low.
13  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 26, 2018, 01:23:02 AM
Sarah Sanders is a fucking fascist, raised by a bigot and employed by a bigot
And if she had a heart or any sign of a conscience maybe she would know now how those gay employees feel when someone tells them to get lost if they want to order a wedding cake from someone who refuses to bake it for them because he hates who and what they are. Maybe they are thinking, just a little bit, “Welcome to our world, Sarah”.
14  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 25, 2018, 10:57:25 AM
U.S. Government hostages…..
    Why haven’t they moved to immediately establish a national computer base for these children that they have kidnaped? They should immediately photograph each and every child when they arrive at whatever camp they choose to send them to, plus they could assemble whatever bits of information they might have about each child, then they could list them on the national base for anyone, everywhere with access to a computer to be able to search the base to see of they recognize their child.
    I can’t believe that the government doesn’t have some small scraps of information about each parent and child, which they probably recorded at the time they split up the family (just to cover their own asses in case something went wrong). They have already made an offer to any parent who would volunteer to go to the airport and be returned to their country of origin that they would immediately reunite them with their child. How could they do that unless they had some information on file about where a certain child might be located?
15  National / Bush Administration / Re: Bush Administration on: June 25, 2018, 10:37:19 AM
If these people got what is deserved,  they'd be running down the streets covered in hot tar and feathers.
Harassing Sarah Sandbag Huckelberry Hound at a restaurant is not something that I would do. It’s just not behavior that I would want to encourage. But I’m not about to get bent out of shape if someone else chooses to do so. She is a serial liar and she spends her life trying to promote and advance an evil political regime, and any discomfort she experiences along the way is well earned, in my opinion. I’m certainly not going to be shamed by someone with her complete lack of ethics or moral standing. If or when she decides to join the human race then I might reconsider.
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