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Re: NFL
« Reply #1845 on: January 05, 2020, 10:14:45 PM »

No offensive pass interference. Crock of SHIT.

Not even a look at it, apparently.

With the Saints involved.

Unfuckingbelievable.
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« Reply #1846 on: January 05, 2020, 10:16:59 PM »

good weekend of football

miserable weekend for prognostication

I was thrilled that I got one game right - I was beginning to think I should make my picks, promote them where people who know me could see them, so they could bet the opposite.

It would still be beneficial at 1/4 right, mostly, but not nearly as good as perfection!

Maybe, Banks, one of us should go first and the other pick the opposites!
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« Reply #1847 on: January 05, 2020, 10:52:57 PM »

good weekend of football

miserable weekend for prognostication

I was thrilled that I got one game right - I was beginning to think I should make my picks, promote them where people who know me could see them, so they could bet the opposite.

It would still be beneficial at 1/4 right, mostly, but not nearly as good as perfection!

Maybe, Banks, one of us should go first and the other pick the opposites!

Its been a long time since my last golden sombrero.

But they happen.

and they are humbling.

I need a strong finish (5-2) to beat coin-flipping consistency.

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« Reply #1848 on: January 05, 2020, 11:06:19 PM »

No offensive pass interference. Crock of SHIT.

Not even a look at it, apparently.

With the Saints involved.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Sick, really

Just unforgivable

And then to come out with such a quick statement in defense....

Fault of course lies in the zebra that missed the call initially.

Don Denkinger was grilled so...as was the guy who blew the call that spoiled the perfect game

Why not these NFL guys?  He is standing right fucking there.
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« Reply #1849 on: January 06, 2020, 10:08:57 AM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
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« Reply #1850 on: January 06, 2020, 11:39:39 AM »

Below is a transcript with NFL senior vice president of officiating Al Riveron from the NFC wild-card game between the New Orleans Saints and the Minnesota Vikings regarding the final play of the game. The pool reporter in attendance was Larry Holder of the Athletic. 



Holder: What did you see on that final play to uphold the call on the field?

Riveron: "We looked at all of the angles that FOX afford us, and FOX gave us some great views. There is contact by both players, but none of that contact rises to the level of a foul. This is consistent with what we've done all year long, we left the ruling on the field. We let it stand."

Holder: "It seemed like you guys did this process pretty quickly. It was obviously clear enough in that short of a span that you felt comfortable with what was called?"

Riveron: "Yes. FOX was great. They gave us every angle that they had pertaining to the play. So we're very comfortable with what we saw. Nothing came through afterward that we had not seen prior to making the ruling."


Saints Linebacker Demario Davis

It was one-on-one, the tight end won, you’ve got to give him credit. Good throw and catch."
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Re: NFL
« Reply #1851 on: January 06, 2020, 03:13:02 PM »

Opinions vary.
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« Reply #1852 on: January 06, 2020, 04:36:36 PM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
I think the whole booth review of interference is a stupid rule. Why not holding? Because a playoff game did not turn on a blown holding call? You can't change last year's result with this year's rule.
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« Reply #1853 on: January 06, 2020, 04:45:31 PM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
I think the whole booth review of interference is a stupid rule. Why not holding? Because a playoff game did not turn on a blown holding call? You can't change last year's result with this year's rule.

Why some plays are unchallengeable is beyond me.

But I'm still trying to figure out the rationale for overtime's allowing a touchdown to end it, but not a field goal, for the first possession. Let both teams have the ball a minimum of once. (I would really prefer that they just play out a full 15 minute period, but I get that that is not going to happen.)
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« Reply #1854 on: January 06, 2020, 05:43:58 PM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
I think the whole booth review of interference is a stupid rule. Why not holding? Because a playoff game did not turn on a blown holding call? You can't change last year's result with this year's rule.

Why some plays are unchallengeable is beyond me.
Because the Minnesota TD, by rule, was ruled a TD by the replay booth. There was nothing left to challenge.

As for the OT rules in the NFL. Winning a game on a first possession field goal has proven to be universally hated by football players and fans.
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« Reply #1855 on: January 06, 2020, 05:53:11 PM »

As for the OT rules in the NFL. Winning a game on a first possession field goal has proven to be universally hated by football players and fans.


Who said they want that?
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« Reply #1856 on: January 06, 2020, 06:02:03 PM »

As for the OT rules in the NFL. Winning a game on a first possession field goal has proven to be universally hated by football players and fans.


Who said they want that?
Note the FG USED to win. No longer.
The NFL is not a league for sissies.
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« Reply #1857 on: January 06, 2020, 06:07:46 PM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
I think the whole booth review of interference is a stupid rule. Why not holding? Because a playoff game did not turn on a blown holding call? You can't change last year's result with this year's rule.

Why some plays are unchallengeable is beyond me.
Because the Minnesota TD, by rule, was ruled a TD by the replay booth. There was nothing left to challenge.

As for the OT rules in the NFL. Winning a game on a first possession field goal has proven to be universally hated by football players and fans.
I don't think Josh was asking about that specific play - all scoring plays are automatically booth reviewed so a.challenge would be otiose - but why, for instance, forward progress not resulting in a first down or down by contact cannot be challenged. Or in my example, why no challenge for any other action penalty besides interference. Why not a clip, or a hold, or a facemask?

And explaining why the game continues after an initial OT field goal does not explain why it does not also continue after an initial touchdown.
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« Reply #1858 on: January 06, 2020, 07:18:33 PM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
I think the whole booth review of interference is a stupid rule. Why not holding? Because a playoff game did not turn on a blown holding call? You can't change last year's result with this year's rule.

Why some plays are unchallengeable is beyond me.
Because the Minnesota TD, by rule, was ruled a TD by the replay booth. There was nothing left to challenge.

As for the OT rules in the NFL. Winning a game on a first possession field goal has proven to be universally hated by football players and fans.
I don't think Josh was asking about that specific play - all scoring plays are automatically booth reviewed so a.challenge would be otiose - but why, for instance, forward progress not resulting in a first down or down by contact cannot be challenged.
  Because forward progress is a judgement call by an official and often does not match what a replay official sees or hears. Down by contact is called immediately and stops the play for safety reasons.
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Or in my example, why no challenge for any other action penalty besides interference. Why not a clip, or a hold, or a facemask?
why not the Coin Toss?
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And explaining why the game continues after an initial OT field goal does not explain why it does not also continue after an initial touchdown.
Because the NFL wants its OT to be sudden death. It took a groundswell from fans and players to successfully argue a one possession FG is not an acceptable way the end the game.
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« Reply #1859 on: January 06, 2020, 09:05:09 PM »

The thing is that WRs push off all the time and it is seldom called. It would mess up their offense is everything mantra. Got to keep the masses showing up at the gates and the living rooms and bars. Money talks and defense walks. Don't touch that QB, don't touch that WR. Don't hit anyone.


Bitch game now of preening dickweeds.
I think the whole booth review of interference is a stupid rule. Why not holding? Because a playoff game did not turn on a blown holding call? You can't change last year's result with this year's rule.

Why some plays are unchallengeable is beyond me.
Because the Minnesota TD, by rule, was ruled a TD by the replay booth. There was nothing left to challenge.

As for the OT rules in the NFL. Winning a game on a first possession field goal has proven to be universally hated by football players and fans.
I don't think Josh was asking about that specific play - all scoring plays are automatically booth reviewed so a.challenge would be otiose - but why, for instance, forward progress not resulting in a first down or down by contact cannot be challenged.
  Because forward progress is a judgement call by an official and often does not match what a replay official sees or hears.
So is forward progress resulting in a first down, but that is reviewable.
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Down by contact is called immediately and stops the play for safety reasons.
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Or in my example, why no challenge for any other action penalty besides interference. Why not a clip, or a hold, or a facemask?
why not the Coin Toss?
Indeed. If the coin comes heads and he calls.tails, why not to to replay? But the real issue is there are major penalties refs call in the flow of the game that.require instant recognition and interpretation of.the rules. We have singled out interference. Why, other than because of one bad call?
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And explaining why the game continues after an initial OT field goal does not explain why it does not also continue after an initial touchdown.
Because the NFL wants its OT to be sudden death. It took a groundswell from fans and players to successfully argue a one possession FG is not an acceptable way the end the game.
That is a good answer.
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