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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11115 on: February 12, 2020, 02:27:56 AM »

That's 16 FA's for those counting at home.

Who likes any of those?
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« Reply #11116 on: February 12, 2020, 04:31:34 AM »

They are good names to have in mind.

Here are players we’ll have contracts, options, or rights to;

Taj Mitch
Randle Bobby
Harkless Knox Brazdekis
Barrett Bullock Ellington Dotson
Payton Frank DSJ

Then come three cracks at the draft. BPA with the high pick & try to consolidate the other two and move up. Hopefully that gets you two rotation players more talented and effective than some of the 14 potentially still on board. One of Taj or Bobby, Knox or Iggy, Wayne or Dot, or Moe if he doesn’t work out, can easily go.

The Dayton kid, Obi Toppin, the Minnesota Gopher, Daniel Oturu, and throw the bank at Fred VanFleet wouldn’t be a bad start. Shave Bobby and Ellington and we can overpay the PG which seems to be what teams do these days.
 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11117 on: February 12, 2020, 08:11:34 AM »

Maybe this is a more clear breakdown of FA's:

Myers Leonard or Tanky Frank as a cheap Stretch Big.   Something we don't have.   Adds a shooter.

Plumlee or the much cheaper WCS as extra Bigs.   If Plums,  then likely the end of Taj.   Love Taj,  but we'd be getting younger,  bigger and Plums can pass.

Shooting G's:
Bogdan would be perfect --
 shot,  handle, some playmaking.
Beasley plays hard.   I thought he was bigger than his listed 6'4".  Kind of like RJB with an outside shot.
Dillon Brooks likely ungettable but very intriguing.

The PG conundrum:
How much do you throw at FVV?   I'd be inclined to go high but short (3 year).
I've always been a Dragic fan,  but how much of an upgrade over Elf.   Dragon can shoot.
What's left in Conley s tank?
Buy low on RegJax -- he might take a one year make-good contract,  a high profile starting gig to re-up his value.
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« Reply #11118 on: February 12, 2020, 08:23:41 AM »

Otto Porter would be a strong addition.   A starting SF with an all-around game,  low maintenance.  Along with Dragic, Conley,  RegJax he's had injury issues.   But that's why these fairly talented players could be had.  Porter has a foot injury now.

Add Porter and ditch Portis sounds great to me. 

Dunn & Saric represent good Buy Low talent,  but probably not right for us.

Jer Grant and Bertans probably too pricey. But worth monitoring.
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« Reply #11119 on: February 12, 2020, 08:45:39 AM »

1) I'd try to add one high-priced starter:
FVV /  Bogdan / Porter. 
Lock up a starting slot and add 3 point shooting.  These guys all fairly young.

2) try to nab another shooter on the cheap:
Beasley / My Leonard / Tank / Saric

3) think about Plumlee as a Taj replacement.

4) look at creative options for whichever position didn't add a starting level FA.   1 year RegJax, WCS as an extra Big,  etc.

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« Reply #11120 on: February 12, 2020, 09:11:49 AM »

Beasley is a very likely re-up with Wolves.

Dragic?  You take his age 34-36 years rather than keep Elfrid and be on the hook for just one?

Conley and Porter arent available

Reggie?  No.  Not at this time.

The big white guys who can shoot?  Sure.  Bid if you like them better than BP (not sure the new hip hop regime will).

Brooks?  That's a nice idea.  OVERBID.  Dare them to match.  At least we know we get a serious talent.  We need a 2.

Van Vleet surely should be a target.

LIKELY WE MAKE A BIG TRADE
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11121 on: February 12, 2020, 09:46:04 AM »

Other names of interest, off the supplied list:


Clarkson

Harris

Ibaka

Rivers
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« Reply #11122 on: February 12, 2020, 09:48:25 AM »

Didn't realize Dragic was so aged.   And he's been breaking down for years.  Not much upgrade over Elf (better shooting,  decision making,  worse health,  probably worse D at this point).

OK,  scratch him. 
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« Reply #11123 on: February 12, 2020, 09:54:14 AM »

I think Memf matches any Brooks contract.   He's become a leader there, while Migrant is a quiet guy.   They balance each other well on/off the court.

Why won't Porter be available?   Not our biggest priority since we drafted Knox and RJB and have Randle at PF.   But he's good and his value down some due to injuries.

Conley hasn't fit in Utah well.   So who knows with that.
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« Reply #11124 on: February 12, 2020, 09:57:53 AM »

Porter and Conley have player options - 29 mil and 34 mil.

Pay that for one year in a trade if you want
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« Reply #11125 on: February 12, 2020, 09:59:03 AM »

I was high on Joe Harris,  great shooter,  crafty.   But since last Summer he's looked chunky and his defense worse as a result.  So I've cooled on him.   And we don't need another bad defender.

I'd much rather the younger Bogdanovich. 
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« Reply #11126 on: February 12, 2020, 10:02:26 AM »

Porter and Conley have player options - 29 mil and 34 mil.

Oh, ok.

   I'm not fully up on how much money we'll have and options and ages and such.

FA still a long ways away.

I thought that Hoopshype FA list should include each players age next to their names.   Pertinent info.
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« Reply #11127 on: February 12, 2020, 10:03:15 AM »

Bog is RESTRICTED

They turned down good offers and plan on matching
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #11128 on: February 12, 2020, 10:07:09 AM »

Van Vleet/Clarkson is actually a tough call for me.

I'd side with Fred - I think he just has the IT factor when it comes to leading.

Clarkson could own NY if you clear out the guard overage and give him 32-34 minutes a night.

Trading Barrett IS an option.
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« Reply #11129 on: February 12, 2020, 10:17:25 AM »

Speaking of Clarkson - check out round 2 of that 2014 draft

We took Early, after Cavs selected Joe Harris

After Cleanthony -

Dinwiddie
J Grant
G Robinson
JOKIC
D Powell
Clarkson
J McRae
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