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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13005 on: August 23, 2020, 03:11:28 PM »

and concupiscent curds ...

Seems like a lot of PG's might fall to mid/late round.
At #27 (or even 38) maybe NYK can snag:
Kira Lewis Jr.
Tre Jones
Malachi Flynn
Nico Manion
Cassius Winston - Michigan State Senior

Thoughts on these guys?
Flynn and Winston are small.

My thoughts were given on a couple of them already (Jones, Winston)

Hearing Mannion going back to school.
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Re: Speaking Of Diminutive PGs
« Reply #13006 on: August 23, 2020, 03:12:19 PM »

Kemba Walker, all 6'0" of him. 

Playing with so much joy and purpose for the Celtics. 

His first playoff series, and MAN, is he ever bringing it. 

Kyrie Irving is a MF. 

But Kemba a much better match for the Celtics. 

And more durable.

Let's see how far they get.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13007 on: August 23, 2020, 03:52:34 PM »

KZ out with a sore knee.
(I saw he was listed as probable last game).
Trey Burke starting ...


BOS-TOR should be a good series ...
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« Reply #13008 on: August 23, 2020, 08:03:13 PM »

Barn burner with the Clips. 

Happy to see the much maligned Trey Burke and Timmy Hardaway come up big in the clutch.

And that never won anything, comparing him to Larry Bird is ridiculous [BITE ME] Luca with a 43-17-13 and a mega clutch long three at the buzzer in OT to win it.  DAMN. 

Kawhi and Sweet Lou awesome. 

GREAT FUCKING GAME. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13009 on: August 23, 2020, 08:50:57 PM »

I don't know if he's Bird, but he sure reminded me of Magic circa 1980 v Philly in the Finals.
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« Reply #13010 on: August 23, 2020, 10:13:41 PM »

Hey Bank, you didn't rub it in with Chico that Tatum had 4 assists today.

So I'm doing it for you.

heh
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Re: Tatum
« Reply #13011 on: August 23, 2020, 10:32:49 PM »

Hey Bank, you didn't rub it in with Chico that Tatum had 4 assists today.

So I'm doing it for you.

heh

thanks Carlos but playing the I told you so game with kid is mostly a waste of time, he's too locked into his hot takes to deal in facts or reason.

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« Reply #13012 on: August 24, 2020, 12:34:27 AM »

Hey Bank, you didn't rub it in with Chico that Tatum had 4 assists today.

So I'm doing it for you.

heh

thanks Carlos but playing the I told you so game with kid is mostly a waste of time, he's too locked into his hot takes to deal in facts or reason.

Yeah, you’re right, he’s kinda hopeless.

Still, as Chico’s Latino guardian angel, I gotta keep on trying.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13013 on: August 24, 2020, 01:02:29 AM »

Some times Tatum reminds me of James Worthy.
I think it's the clever drives.
Tatum does a nice job of taking his time on post-ups and drives, but sometimes just explodes through.

TOR-BOS should be a lot of fun.
Hope Lowry is okay.  Gets a few days to recover.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13014 on: August 24, 2020, 03:34:14 AM »

Brett Brown was lamenting that without Simmons the '6ers had no one to guard BOS dynamic young wings.  Well, they drafted Mikal Bridges (#10) a fine wing defender, but flipped him to PHX for Zhaire and a 1st rounder (MIA's 2021 pick). 

Bridges would be a fine matchup for Tatum.
Zhaire played 30 minutes ... this season.
And with the emergence of Shake Milton, unclear if there's a spot for Zhaire.
(besides Bridges, Shai and Porter Jr were also on board, though it's hard to imagine them intentionally drafting another injured Big after what they went through with Embiid and Simmons).  Bridges or Shai would have helped a lot.

Looks like PHI outsmarted themselves again.
In B2B drafts:
Trading up for Fultz cost them Tatum and a 1st rounder; trading down cost them a very solid 2-way Bridges for a non-playing Zhaire and a 2021 1st.

To make matters worse, Mikal Bridges was a Villanova product and his mom worked for the '6ers.  And still they botched it.


EDIT: Brett Brown traded Mikal Bridges to the Phoenix Suns for Zhaire Smith and Miami’s unprotected 2021 first-round draft pick when he was interim general manager.  So Brown did it to himself.

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To be fair to Brown, trading Bridges wasn’t the lone dark spot of his tenure behind the desk. He also traded away Richaun Holmes for cash, a pair of promising young wings (Justin Anderson and Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot) for Mike Muscala, and struck out spectacularly in free agency, but hey, at least he traded away the rights to Kostas Antetokounmpo for Shake Milton on draft night, that one kind of worked out.

I've long been a Rich Holmes fan.  He just wants it more than most.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13015 on: August 24, 2020, 05:09:28 AM »

I’m thinking the par offseason at this point that gives Thibs options might look like this

Draft Vassell a big (maybe Carey or Oturu or Stewart

Sign Serge and Jerami Grant as FA’s

Bring back Taj, Payton, and Bullock

Mitch Taj Oturu
Serge Randle
Grant Knox Iggy
RJ Bullock Vassell
Frank Payton DSJ

There is still a spot for someone else to make the team, draft pick, FA, or as a result of a trade.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13016 on: August 24, 2020, 09:08:30 AM »

Bridges would not have been any kind of Tatum answer

Mr Z Smith (INJ) may/may not end up a player

Bigger miscue was dealing Markelle.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13017 on: August 24, 2020, 09:09:34 AM »

In the end, roster disparity and Vets under performance (nod of course to BOS defense) was Philly's demise in a series that was easy to predict (albeit not so much as a sweep)
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13018 on: August 24, 2020, 09:20:48 AM »

Fultz to Knicks not a bad idea for 2021-22, though I would not be surprised to see ORL keep him
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13019 on: August 24, 2020, 11:48:41 AM »

Sure, we need another PG who can't make a 3.
I can imagine the 3-point contests between Jr. Smith, Elf and Fultz.  Franc could win!
Fultz still pretty shaky on both ends.
Makes a lot of mistakes.
Doesn't look in good shape either.
We're not the right team for him to get right.


Bridges one of the best young wing defenders with good size.
Guy is hard to score on and puts out good effort.
Check out PHX sometime.  I saw them a bunch this season, including three bubble games.  Bridges D stood out.

Rubio (29) - Book (23)- Uber Kelly (24) - Bridges (23) - Ayton (22)
Real nice young starting lineup.
CamPayne might be the backup PG they needed.  He looked sharp in the Bubble.
Cam Payne (26) - Cam Johnson (24) - Saric - Baynes.

Maybe draft Okoro at #10 - a wing defender who can spell Book some.
Or go for a backup Big.  Achiuwa is a strong 6'9" who can play 4/5.
Oturu, more of a real C, another possibility.
Achiuwa might be the smart move in case Ayton misses time.

Suns in good shape.  Had a great bubble.  And Book a genuine star.
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