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« Reply #13455 on: September 18, 2020, 10:00:17 PM »

:Thoughts on Love?

Always wanted to see him here eventually

Always hearing how they don't want to trade him, except from the peanut gallery.

We know, Chamaco.

You always wanted “white shooters”.

Kevin is a nice player, also an old softie.

RBG gone. God help us! Who are Trumptin/McConnell going to shove down our throats, Ted Cruz?
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« Reply #13456 on: September 19, 2020, 01:55:47 AM »

Rajon Rondo [34 years old]

2019-2020

$2.5 Million

2020-2021

$2.6 Million [Player Option]

Chris Paul [35 years old]

2019-2020

$38.5 Million

2020-2021

$41.3 Million

2021-2022

$44.2 million

Yes, by all means, let's gut out team and trade Randle and Ntilikina and Knox and multiple #1 picks for an aged Point Guard. 

We could have made a run at Rondo multiple times these past few years. 

When the Milwaukee Bucks traded for Oscar Robertson, the Cincinnati Royals, with overtones of ingratitude and racism, basically dumped him for a meager return. 

The Big O was heading to Milwaukee to join a young Kareem Abdul Jabbar.  He was the final piece in a team wanting but for a rudder, a take charge guy. 

Gutting our team to get Paul?  Flushing assets down the toilet? Going all in, and eating up more than half of our cap space to get a difference maker on a woefully incomplete team.  WHO EXACTLY WILL REMAIN FOR PAUL TO MENTOR? 

I love Chris Paul. 

But this what we did with Carmelo, trading all of our team for a difference maker player, who wanted ALL OF HIS MONEY OUT FRONT, leaving him with NOBODY TO FUCKING PLAY WITH. 

I love Chris Paul. 

But unless we are getting him for salary filler, and not surrendering #1 picks, this is a suck ass move. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13457 on: September 19, 2020, 04:08:12 AM »

Of the names battered around of big name pts, I prefer Conely, then Paul, then Westbrook.

Paul and Russ are on the same salary scale with Westbrook’s deal blossoming over another year into his player option for north of 47 million.

Conely has one and a player option at 29 this year and 34 next.

He’s in that crafty Vet stratosphere, might be available for the salary savings, and leaves us room for other moves.

Randle and DSJ for Conely and Ed Davis. No picks either way.

Im happy with Payton and Bullock at current money. I hope Taj would take a lesser deal, possibly with another year tacked on. Bobby and Wayne I’d let go. I’d promote Wooten who’s game is Thibs friendly.

That 11, which gives you spots for 3 draft picks and one more productive vet.

Mitch Davis
Taj Knox Wooten
Bullock Ignas
RJ
Conely Frank Payton

I’d focus on Deni, Vassell, or Okoro with the 8 and look for a big with at least one of the other picks.

Thibs would have a decent roster for year 1.


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13458 on: September 19, 2020, 04:45:23 AM »

Do the Knix ever even look for two-way players?
Are we allowed to have a 3&D guy?
Closest we have is Bullocks.  Who's an okay journeyman and seems like a good guy.
Could be due for a bounce back year.  But he's really a reserve.


At closer to $8M (or less), I can accept Portis coming in off the bench with energy, bombing away and making mistakes.


Knix have the worst guards and worst shooting G's in the League.

Kevin Love ... there's a brilliant idea ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13459 on: September 19, 2020, 07:17:19 AM »

Gutting our team to get Paul?  Flushing assets down the toilet? Going all in, and eating up more than half of our cap space to get a difference maker on a woefully incomplete team.  WHO EXACTLY WILL REMAIN FOR PAUL TO MENTOR?


Cap space used on production is always good

Have to get over 40 wins before players start flocking here again

With Paul and Thibodeaux I like our chances of this.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13460 on: September 19, 2020, 07:23:47 AM »

I love Chris Paul.

But unless we are getting him for salary filler, and not surrendering #1 picks, this is a suck ass move




In a little while you will be able to ask Ainge what it is like to gathers picks and never use them

Not giving the #8 for Paul.  Other picks?  Sure.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13461 on: September 19, 2020, 07:59:38 AM »

Why would Chris Paul want to get stuck on these Knickerbockers?
Guy wants to win and play meaningful playoff games as his career winds down, not babysit  dysfunctional franchise full of flawed pieces.  Maybe in 3 or 4 years, he could doa  Jason Kidd and play a final year mentoring whatever we got, but he's still actually a genuine player who wouldn't want his career to die here.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13462 on: September 19, 2020, 10:26:09 AM »

Paul only has a choice if we want to extend him.

I dont think this is the current concern

Chip is right - its not great value - which is why Leon will back burner Paul.

But its on the POSSIBLE docket.
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« Reply #13463 on: September 19, 2020, 10:27:59 AM »

My "this may not happen" thinking is that I want Randle to be here with Paul - and they might need to send that salary back.  Though using some of our cap space for CP works as well if Julius is kept
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« Reply #13464 on: September 19, 2020, 11:56:31 PM »

Waiting for you to say something.
You made it too tough at the end but finally made it.
Congrats 🍾
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Re: Hey Bank
« Reply #13465 on: September 20, 2020, 01:14:29 AM »

Waiting for you to say something.
You made it too tough at the end but finally made it.
Congrats 🍾

Thanks Carlos

I thought they played a better game, attacked the Heat early on, controlled the paint, and controlled the game. They got sloppy in the 4th quarter, and the Heat chipped away, they're fucking relentless. I was about to throw my bottle of Don Julio Reposado through the TV, but I had another drink instead. And Marcus made his free-throws.

Alls well that ends well.

Nice to see Gordo back on the court, although his stats weren't overflowing, his minutes and basketball IQ and D helped alot. 

if he's good to go for about 25-30 quality minutes a night that changes things a lot in how they can attack and gives the Heat some problems on D.

I think we've got a series.

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WOW!!!
« Reply #13466 on: September 20, 2020, 10:11:15 PM »

What a game!
And what a monster game by both Davis and Jokic!!!

PS. Lakers won, but couda gone either way.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13467 on: September 20, 2020, 11:42:45 PM »

I don't like LeBron deferring.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #13468 on: September 21, 2020, 02:09:48 PM »

LeBj made the right read.  DEN was packing the paint on LBJ drives, and he had gotten a charge on a pass off a little earlier.  So LeBJ sucked in the D and and then kicked to open perimeter guys.

Quite a stretch run for Jokic.
Not sure what Plumlee was up to on the final play, dropping down to LBJ and signalling for Grant to flash out to AD.  I guess Plum realized he's too slow to get there, but jeez that was useless D.  And you should always be prepared for your man to run towards the ball.  I assume he was overly concerned about Davis running to the rim. 

Turned out to be a terrific game after a 1st half slog.

Quite a move from Malone to go with PJ Doze for extended 4Q minutes after Gray Harris was off all night.  Dozier played terrific, only he missed 4 of 5 FT's.  A real killer. 

Similarly, Caruso had a stellar game for LAL, with Vogel granting him 29 mins.
Lakes hit a pair of 2nd half 3's with the shot cock expiring which hurt DEN.

Seemed like all game DEN was moving the ball well, but passing up shots.  Which often put them deep in the shot clock without much going on.  Nugs needed to be more decisive and get shots up when they have them.
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« Reply #13469 on: September 21, 2020, 04:33:06 PM »

Broke my heart. 

Such a great talent and positive person. 

He and Daniel Jones were my motivation for watching these Giants. 
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