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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14085 on: November 09, 2020, 06:35:47 AM »

Probably the team getting junk.

Trading Lonzo for Elf is remarkably silly.  The only reason they might ditch Ball is because he doesn't space the floor for Zion, so they're dealing him for a worse 3-point shooting PG, especially an older one.

Word is PELs want to move JRue who could bring a solid return.

And build with their young core of Lonzo - Ingram & Zionista.
Along with Jax Hayes & NA Walker.
They can likely add a shooter such as Nesmith or Bey with their #13 pick.
(looks to me like after 13 there is a drop off -- not to say there won't be some successes below that, but looks like a tier cutoff point)

So with all that yute, add in whatever return for Jrue -- hopefully a player and a pick.  Then fill in the roster with some vets.  For now they have Favors.  Hart is useful.  Find some more shooters and ball movers to fit around Zion's power game.

I'm not that high on their players and the mix, but the blueprint is strong, and they can figure out chemistry and team play over the next few years.  Caveat: I haven't seen Zion much and Ingram improved.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14086 on: November 09, 2020, 12:19:27 PM »

Word is PELs want to move JRue who could bring a solid return.


Because Ball is a star and there is no positive in holding his minutes down.

New O has it tough in the West - but are an emerging giant.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14087 on: November 09, 2020, 12:22:05 PM »

Do the Knicks take Jrue and move down to 13, where mock says they would still be able to get Nesmith or Smith?

Interesting.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14088 on: November 09, 2020, 12:57:53 PM »

Jrue simply doesn't fit the NOPE timeframe.
But can bring a solid return from a playoff team.

I don't see how the Knix get involved.
What significant assets would we be giving them?
It's not like they want Randle back.

JRue had success playing off the ball as a secondary ballhandler.
Ball played 32 mpg last year with JRue out there a lot.
Don't think there was minute or fit issue, just JRue is oldish and has an injury history.  Also, for a solid two-way player he doesn't seem to have much impact on winning.  I think it's that he doesn't offer enough late-game threat.
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« Reply #14089 on: November 09, 2020, 01:01:10 PM »

The #8 pick, combined with spare parts that are not named Barrett or Robinson.

That would be fair

We have cap space so do not need to match to his 23 mil salary

The forum has loved J-Rue for years - dont back off that now.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14090 on: November 09, 2020, 01:08:46 PM »

I'd be happy getting JRue and dropping 5 slots.
I just don't see it as realistic at all.

What scraps would we give them?
NO couldn't find a better deal?
Who do they even want to move up for?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14091 on: November 09, 2020, 01:13:33 PM »

NO couldn't find a better deal?


It's obvious they'll try.

I think they could use a Knox or a Ntlikina,  Certainly a Brazdekis.

I honestly dont know if Pelicans prefer a 1 for 1 player deal - with no picks involved - to slot in as a starter for 20-21.  Or if that would be available

I will turn it around on you - what are other teams offering?  The contenders have mostly lower level picks.

As for what NO is moving up to 8 for?  The choice of taking the players that go 8-12, simply.  You have this morning the 8 being Okongwu.  But Vassell is also there in that mock.
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« Reply #14092 on: November 09, 2020, 01:43:55 PM »

I'd be happy getting JRue and dropping 5 slots.


Good use of 50 mil?

I am not so sure.

This is the type deal you do if other avenues flame out.  But by then Jrue could be gone somewhere else.
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Jrue? I'm Chanting For Stacy Abrams & Our Brothers And Sisters In Georgia
« Reply #14094 on: November 09, 2020, 02:21:18 PM »

DESPERATE MAN BLUES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhgqCUDMulo

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14096 on: November 09, 2020, 02:39:56 PM »

Lakers make the most sense in that first article.  Kuzma, Caruso and a very late #1
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Jrue? Really?
« Reply #14097 on: November 09, 2020, 02:55:32 PM »

Jrue?

If I were the Lakers I'd betargetting Chris Paul.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14098 on: November 09, 2020, 02:58:58 PM »

The #8 pick, combined with spare parts that are not named Barrett or Robinson.

That would be fair

We have cap space so do not need to match to his 23 mil salary

The forum has loved J-Rue for years - dont back off that now.


PLEASE.

Loved Jrue in 2009 for crying out loud. 

Now if we could get Jeff Teague for the MCE?

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Re: Jrue? Really?
« Reply #14099 on: November 09, 2020, 03:32:38 PM »

Jrue?

If I were the Lakers I'd betargetting Chris Paul.

Cant afford him
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