Escape from Elba

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Poll

Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

Warriors
- 1 (33.3%)
Celtics
- 2 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


Pages: 1 ... 973 974 [975] 976 977 ... 1848

Author Topic: Knicks  (Read 914304 times)

facilitatorn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18684
  • Bust oligopolies not unions.
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14610 on: November 21, 2020, 02:54:24 PM »
If we somehow grab Teague, Dedmon, and KCP, it will be a good retool of the roster in my book.

Mitch Dedmon Davis

Randle Obi Knox

Burks Bullock Iggy

RJ KCP Quickley

Frank Teague DSJ

Logged
Will the Supreme Court grant trump work release to attend the republican national convention?

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.

Richard P. Feynman

Kam

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4032
  • '77er
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14611 on: November 21, 2020, 02:54:59 PM »
Quote from: bodiddley on November 21, 2020, 02:41:54 PM

Topping = Something of a younger svelter bouncier Randle.


Reminds me of this quote last year:

Enes Kanter is counted among those throwing shade, specifically at Zion Williamson.
Kanter said Zion was "just Julius Randle with hops" in a recent appearance on Fox Sports 1.

Logged
KP interns for the firm of Tatum and Brown

chipstern

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4123
    • View Profile
Meanwhile...
« Reply #14612 on: November 21, 2020, 02:55:31 PM »
Wall wants out of Washington. 

K. 

Wall for Westbrook? 

Curiouser and Curiouser. 

As for Bradley?

Quite right, Kiid?

That was play for a finalist money he accepted.

Not play for a retool, as is the case here. 
Logged

facilitatorn

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18684
  • Bust oligopolies not unions.
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14613 on: November 21, 2020, 02:57:32 PM »
We’ve pretty much got to overpay at this point.
Logged
Will the Supreme Court grant trump work release to attend the republican national convention?

For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled.

Richard P. Feynman

bankshot1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5907
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14614 on: November 21, 2020, 02:58:09 PM »
Gordo got on the high end of my 25-30 for 4 yrs  estimate.

He liked Charlotte's $120M more than Indy $100M.

Go figure

Apparently the cost including Batum's dead money cap hit will be $39MM for the next 3 yrs.

Not happy about losing Gordo for nothing, but on the bright side it opens minutes for some young uns who show promise.

Adios Gordo

Good luck in Charlotte.

we hardly knew ye

Logged

kidcarter8

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10395
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14615 on: November 21, 2020, 03:03:30 PM »

Enes Kanter is counted among those throwing shade, specifically at Zion Williamson.
Kanter said Zion was "just Julius Randle with hops" in a recent appearance on Fox Sports 1

Uh.... sure....

Z shoots it better as well

OBI "bouncier" than Randle?  Not too sure of that.
Logged
- Prayers for Paul Pelosi -

Kam

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4032
  • '77er
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14616 on: November 21, 2020, 03:04:55 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on November 21, 2020, 03:03:30 PM

Enes Kanter is counted among those throwing shade, specifically at Zion Williamson.
Kanter said Zion was "just Julius Randle with hops" in a recent appearance on Fox Sports 1

Uh.... sure....



You don't get it.
Logged
KP interns for the firm of Tatum and Brown

kidcarter8

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10395
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14617 on: November 21, 2020, 03:06:33 PM »
LESS THAN HAPPY would sum up my Knicks mood right now

Quickley was a guy I figured we could get.

OBI is very good - but a home run?  Who knows?

And then after that we haven't done all that much to turn the dial.

The big ADD right now is THIBS.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2020, 03:16:02 PM by kidcarter8 »
Logged
- Prayers for Paul Pelosi -

kidcarter8

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10395
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14618 on: November 21, 2020, 03:14:02 PM »
NBA Radio guys also KILLING Hayward - insinuating Boston didnt miss him at all.

"5th scorer", shit like that.

Bad, badddd analysis

Weekend guys of course.  EJ and Termony, Isola and Theus and Scalabrine would never say similar.
Logged
- Prayers for Paul Pelosi -

bodiddley

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6538
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14619 on: November 21, 2020, 03:19:04 PM »
A real overpay for Haywire.
But he makes sense on CHA so they went for it.

I don't want the Knix to do something for the sake of making a splash.
But the endless revolving door and one year deals is getting old.
As you've noted we bring in guys who block the develop/minutes of our iffy yute.
That's why I'd be looking to move Julius within the next year and half.
ObiT can apprentice some, but soonish I'd liek to force feed him minutes.  This year or next.

A problem the Knix have is we just don't have an appealing roster, as we constantly tear down and shuffle players in and out.  And coaches and the front office.  Zero stability.  Minimal continuity.  Franc are longest tenured player. 

So as Facil says at this point we have to overpay to get a FA.  My thinking is we drafted Avdija and FA signed Wood, along with RJB and Mitch, our team would look interesting to a FA PG.
I would have started FVV around $25M or $26M (and flat of dropping).
____ - RJB - Advija - Wood/Randle - Mitch
Just looks more like a genuine team and with the extra money, maybe could have lured FVV.

As it is, I don't know what the plan is.
Or how/who we lure as a PG.

I don't know Quickley.  There were 4 or 5 other PG's to pick from.  Knix liked him.
I'm fine with the pick.  But late round PG's are often just backups at best.
We needed to tap a PG or shooter in the 20's and Quickley might be both.

Although short-term adding Quickenloans and subtracting Elf actually downgrades our PG slot and we still have a bit of a logjam, though I suspect Franc is really an SG (who can't, uh, shoot).  Wonder where Elf winds up.  He's a good backup PG who can spot start, preferably on a team of shooters.
Logged
Good Gov't Saves Lives
 --- Bad Gov't Kills ---

chipstern

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4123
    • View Profile
BoD
« Reply #14620 on: November 21, 2020, 03:33:02 PM »
Endless revolving door...

As oppossed to long term contracts to Eisley, Anderson, Weatherspoon, James...

Or reaches for the likes of Bagnani. 

Or trading away our entire roster for one supe.   

Given that was a long time ago, but I find the conservative approach refreshing. 

Also, the contention that now WE HAVE TO OVERPAY?

Overpay?

For who exactly? 

Everyone else is committing their money, and still some bodies left standing. 

When it all shakes out, where will the likes of Rondo and Teague be?

With this roster, frankly, I would be happy to overpay Rondo. 

And again, I am happy we are taking a cautious, conservative, wait and see aprroach for fucking once. 

Remmeber when we struck out on LeBron and Bosh?

What did we do.

MAX OUT AMARE. 

I loved Amare, but how much of him at his peak did we get for the money? 

Randle has a year to prove himself on some level, or align for a move. 

Otherwise, we are young and fluid and actually developing, or so it would seem. 

Let's compare notes on next Wednseday. 
Logged

Kam

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4032
  • '77er
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14621 on: November 21, 2020, 03:34:00 PM »
Charlotte is spending $39mil per year on Gordo.  $30mil in salary to Haywire and $9mil in stretch to Batum.
Logged
KP interns for the firm of Tatum and Brown

bodiddley

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6538
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14622 on: November 21, 2020, 03:34:47 PM »
For these Knix, I'm all in favor of overpaying to get a guy we want.

Drop an extra $5M per over FVV's market value? 
That's merely one less Ed Davis on your bench. 

We need bona fide starters, before we start worrying about filling in the bench.  Hell, this year we have $9M in dead money from Noah and three guys we waived.
Logged
Good Gov't Saves Lives
 --- Bad Gov't Kills ---

bodiddley

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6538
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14623 on: November 21, 2020, 03:40:52 PM »
Quote from: Kam on November 21, 2020, 03:34:00 PM
Charlotte is spending $39mil per year on Gordo.  $30mil in salary to Haywire and $9mil in stretch to Batum.

Looking at it that way, then Gordo only amounts to $12M this year, cause you gotta subtract the $27M CHA had committed to Batum.

CHA has so little committed for 2021-22 that Haywood and Batum for $39M will help get them towards the min salary floor.  They cna easily afford to eat the $9M for Batum each year.
Logged
Good Gov't Saves Lives
 --- Bad Gov't Kills ---

Kam

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4032
  • '77er
    • View Profile
Re: Knicks
« Reply #14624 on: November 21, 2020, 03:43:59 PM »
Maybe we can overpay for THjr again.  (◔_◔)

Knicks have added 3 good three pt shooters this year and some of us aren't happy.
Logged
KP interns for the firm of Tatum and Brown
Pages: 1 ... 973 974 [975] 976 977 ... 1848
« previous next »