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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14745 on: November 23, 2020, 02:12:46 AM »

I'll take 3 solid starters and a vet PG over cap space next year, thank you...

So Avidja is a solid starter?  Based on what?  And Toppin is not solid?

C'mon.


Bog and Wood are nice rotation pieces but do they get the team to the playoffs?

Why spend money on guys who don't get you to the playoffs when you can retain flexibility to make moves to acquire more impactful starters.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14746 on: November 23, 2020, 03:12:05 AM »

We’re a fast team with good defenders at the point of attack and at the cup. We have dangerous shooters who are spry enough to get open and a number of players throughout the roster who can put it on the floor and get to the cup. We favor mobile big men over wide bodied bruisers. We are thinnest at SF where the LeBrons, Kawhis and J Tatums of the league will cause us serious problems. Expect us to do things faster and with more purpose on aggregate than we have in previous iterations.

None of our players are coming in with the burden of being clearly overpaid for their role or with expectations of being the team’s savior.

So far, I think these are all good signs.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14747 on: November 23, 2020, 03:52:59 AM »

I'll take 3 solid starters and a vet PG over cap space next year, thank you...

So Avidja is a solid starter?  Based on what?  And Toppin is not solid?
C'mon.

Fine, so we'd add 3 solid players.
Avdija doesn't need to be a starter since we have RJB.

But he has excelled at pro ball already, albeit in a minor int'l league.
So I guess I'll base my judgement on:
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Avdija became the youngest player to ever win the Israeli League MVP award and led his team to the Israeli League championship.
Avdija was also named Israeli League Israeli Player of the Year and was an All-Israeli League First Team selection.

Touchy?
Didn't say anything about Toppings in that post.
Topping could start if we didn't have Randle.
I have TopDog as a high floor/low ceiling type.

I'm all about improving our team.
And this year was another short punt.

ObiT likely not better than Randle this year and next.
So the only real way to get significant benefit from ObiT is to move Randle.
I'd like our #8 pick to start and play big minutes.  ObiT is 22, not a pup.

Giles signed with POR for a 1 year min deal reportedly.
While we're busy bringing in Ed Davis and flipping him for future 2nd rounders and patting ourselves on the back...

It's quite possible the plan this year is to give paydays to CAA clients and Kentucky alum, and then develop a real plan next year.  Sure hope we didn't draft ObiT because the GM's son is his agent.  It starts seeming like some GOP grift.  Btw, Dolan's a big Trump supporter ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14748 on: November 23, 2020, 04:34:59 AM »

Dolan is a piece of shit, like Kiid. We know this.

The vets we signed are quick and high motor. Less jogging, and much less standing around.

Portis
Gibson
Harkless
Dotson
Ellington


Noel
Spellman
Burks
Rivers

Every one of the new guys is more talented than the ones they have replaced. That’s not even counting what the rookies bring to the table.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14749 on: November 23, 2020, 06:36:46 AM »

Portis was energetic, just unfocused.
A mistake player.

I like the Nerlens signing.

Burks, Rivers, Bullox
Seems like one will get rerouted to a playoff team ...

If ObiT is stuck behind Randle, then we didn't add one starter for this season ...
A 20W team that doesn't add one new starter ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14750 on: November 23, 2020, 10:39:22 AM »

Embrace The PAIN

It Is Your Friend & Constant Companion

Stay Tuned On Monday For New Thrills & Chills



Knicks got much better Sunday
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14751 on: November 23, 2020, 10:45:44 AM »

Rondo - Jr. Smith
Bogdanovich - Frenchie
RJB - Avdija - Knox
Randle - Wood
Mitch - Noel


Bullock, Burks, Rivers?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #14752 on: November 23, 2020, 10:58:30 AM »

In an alternate universe the NY Hawks:
- drafted Avdija as their starting SF.
- offer sheeted SG Bogdanovich at $18M.
- picked up Rondo and Dunn for 2/$15M & 2/$10 respectively =  $11M this year.
- signed Gallo for $20M
- signed Christian Wood for 13M

Rondo - Jr. Smith 
Bogdanovich - Frenchie
RJB - Avdija - Knox
Randle - Wood
Mitch - Noel

That'd be a helluva lot more interesting than whatever we're going to court.
Rondo @ $7M or Elf @ $5M?  Rondo ...
We wouldn't have to sign Dunn since we have Franc, though Dunn is better

We'd be a much better shooting team with Bogdanx2 and Avdija.
Have a nice set Wing rotation with Bogdan-RJB-Avdija.
Solid Bigs with Mitch-Wood-Randle

Rondo a placeholder until we get a quality starting PG
Wood ready to replace Randle.

Btw, Landry Fields is the assistant general manager of ATL

Like this stuff I don't understand in the least. Talk about dreaming small.
Why are you plugging Rondo into your alternate universe?
Why not plug AD into your alternate universe?
Hell of a lot more impactful and EQUAL CHANCE either would sign here.
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« Reply #14753 on: November 23, 2020, 11:02:38 AM »

From the "I guess an agent CAN run a franchise successfully" department


Pelinka chose a younger and more dependable scorer (Schroder) over an inconsistent shooter (Green) and an unpredictable No. 28 pick. He did not fret over losing Dwight Howard since his hopes for a larger role contradicted the team’s plans to use him only when the matchups called for it. Nor did Pelinka fret over losing a wing defender (Avery Bradley) since the Lakers won an NBA title just fine without him, partly because of Caldwell-Pope’s presence. The Lakers still still need to address their backcourt with Rajon Rondo’s departure. But they added another trusted veteran in Gasol. And they would not have landed him if not for Pelinka’s prudence with avoiding to match Rondo’s market value and with performing a sign-and-trade to Cleveland.
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« Reply #14755 on: November 23, 2020, 11:15:34 AM »

There's a progressing thought process that Wizards can be a better team by giving up picks and John Wall.  WIZ has plenty to build with around BEAL - and by taking maybe one more player that is viable moving forward - and losing Wall's contract - losing the pick(s) it takes might not be too costly.

Picture Wizards doing this vs not doing it two/three years down the road.

Now - which team makes sense?  Which developing player do you want back?

Spurs. Knicks in the process.  Not sure who else.

https://www.nba.com/wizards/roster
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« Reply #14756 on: November 23, 2020, 11:52:11 AM »

If Rondo signed with ATL, why wouldn't he be willing to come to NY?
I was trying to posit a very doable/available scenario.
Basically Rondo would be our stopgap and that'd be the one position we'd still need to address.

Remains to be seen if SACking match the Bogman offer.
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« Reply #14757 on: November 23, 2020, 11:59:31 AM »

I dont think Rondo is what L Rose envisioned as his starting PG

Rajon likely takes a NY offer of 15/2 if they tell him it is his show

I am OK that we didnt.  Keeping everyone motivated with current setting.
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« Reply #14758 on: November 23, 2020, 12:00:35 PM »

Our guard play should be improved, especially if DSJ and Frank take required third year steps.
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« Reply #14759 on: November 23, 2020, 12:04:21 PM »

If Rondo signed with ATL, why wouldn't he be willing to come to NY?
I was trying to posit a very doable/available scenario.
Basically Rondo would be our stopgap and that'd be the one position we'd still need to address.

Remains to be seen if SACking match the Bogman offer.

lol, lol, lol, sure, everybody wants to come to New York.
Rondo doesn't do "regular season." In New York, there's only regular season.
He was never coming.
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