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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bankshot1]

I knew Henry as a Knick from the "glory days" but i WAGGED Mike

[facilitatorn]

how about Henry and Mike Bibby

Correct!

Nicely done.

[carlos123]

Don’t mean to be a spoiler, but you people could have just googled it, you know, something like “father and son who played for the new york knicks”. First pair that comes up is the Bibbies.
Interesting question anyway, Kamster. There are also answers for nba father/son duos.

[bodiddley]

Mike Bibby, when the Knix were cycling through aged PG's.
Steve Francis, Chauncey, Bibby, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd (who was fantastic for us).
Bibby and Baron were even on the same team.
Wasn't that how we got Linsanity?
Baron was injured and Bibby aged and ineffective.
And our other young guys, Toney Douglas, weren't up for the task ...

[bodiddley]

Damn, good advice.
And here I was trying to get Clyde's number in the Virgin Islands


Googling kind of short-circuits a trivia question.
It's a challenge.  The answer itself isn't really important.

[chipstern]

Well, two of Facil's bigs, Whiteside and Kaminsky, signed with the Kings. 

Dedmon? 

Appears to have signed a 2 X $14 Million Contract with Atlanta, who have been aggressive in beefing up Trae Young's supporting cast. 

C: Dedmond

PF-C: Capela, Fernando, Okongwu

SF-PF: Gallinari, Collins, Hill

SG-SF: Bogdanovic, Hunter, Reddish, Heuerter, Snell, Mays, Goodwin

PG: Young, Rondo

I eagerly await BoD's poignant wouldacouldashoulda. 

But surely a tip of the hat is in order for the Hawks, a solid veteran haul in Gallinari, Bogdonavich and Rondo to go with three good draft classes in a row.  Nice roster construction. 

The difference being between us and....THEM, their puppy Trae Young has essayed a great leap forward yet to be attained by RJ, Mitchell, Knox, Smith, Nitilikina, and the outlines of their next steps were more clearly drawn than our own.  Which might explain why Rondo was a tenable target for the Hawks, but not for our Knicks, who basically were not charting out so clear a path forward these past two years. 

Yet, even as we speak, in the on-deck circle, WIN NOW THIBODEAU is tasked with arriving at a direction and a culture choosing from the latest opening casting call of talent, to see, which men will be left standing come the summer of 2021. 

While acknowleding our inevitable pre-season expectations and dire projections, midst the pandemic, while anticipating regime changes and the Georgia Senatorial Runoffs, my thoughts and prayers, so to speak, are with Stacy Abrams, and the good citizens of Georgia, to whom I offer a hearty shout out, that the new directions forged for your basketball franchise, might, The Universe Willing, betoken an equally positive, progressive change for our nation as a whole. 

I am, as always, hopelessly optimistic, well, keenly anticipating training camp and the pre-season, and a chance to engage the multiplicity of narratives and competitive back stories which await. 

I AM AND REMAIN A KNICKS FAN, as I have been, God help me, since attending my first Knicks game back in February of 1961.  How will our latest reboot play out?



In the meantime, I have a rooting interest in the people of Georgia and their Atlanta Franchise.  You dig?  The playoffs and a Democratic majority in the United States Senate? 

Georgia On My Mind?



Hope springs eternal.

[kidcarter8]

Steve Francis, Chauncey, Bibby, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd (who was fantastic for us).
Bibby and Baron were even on the same team

A list of greats that didnt have good enough supporting casts

[bodiddley]

Most of those were great PG's or at least very good starters years prior to their Knick stint.  We got most of them after they had already blown a gasket.
Which is why almost all of that list retired after just one or two seasons as a Knick.(I'd have to look it up to be sure).

Bibby was especially decrepit for us.
Baron was intriguing until he started leaving body parts on the hardwood.
I think Stevie Franchise had a drinking problem at that stage of his career.
Etc.

It's a fine idea to have super-vet PG's to lead and guide and mentor, but the Knick problem was we were counting on such graybeards to be our starting PG's and log big minutes.  Which never worked out ...

[kidcarter8]

DUNN also in ATL, right?

Capela getting hosed again - was poised for a huge season.

Q:  Are the Hawks are DEFINITE top 8 team?

Who are the FOUL FIVE in the East (11-15)?

[bodiddley]

ATL did a terrific job.
This off-season and the last 3 years really.
Drafted well, were patient, and decided to pounce in FA with cap space this year.
Most of what they did this off-season could have been done or tried by the Knix but we didn't try.

I wouldn't want the Gallo signing given his age and injury history, though a reunion woulda been nice.  It'd be a much more interesting and better NYK team if we had added Rondo & Bodganovich.  We'd have a semi-legit starting 5.  Though light on shooters.  Was it doable?  I don't think players were especially clamoring to play with Trae, just that ATL was willing to make the offers (and yes, they do have a somewhat more advanced and coherent roster than NYK, which coulda been decisive if we had joined the FA game).

Rondo - Bogdan - RJB - Randle - Mitch
Draft a shooter -- Avdija/ Obi/Vassell.
(I think TyH is too similar to Bogdanovich)

Really Rondo isn't the right guard for such a team, but he's similar to and better than Elf.  I would have been pleased adding Bodganovich and the draft pick (ObiT or Avdija).  At least we'd, be making our incremental step and building for the future.
Instead of our 3rd year of new faces on one year contracts.

Was the plan this year just Do No Harm?
Shoulda come up with a plan this year instead of wait til next year ...

[bodiddley]

I really like Collins.  Think he has some Karl Malone to his game.
DeAndre Hunter is promising.

I'd keep tabs on ATL, a guy like Reddish or even Collins (if Okongwu is a beast) could get squeezed for minutes and become available.  I'm not sure why they're not higher on Collins, but now he has Gallo and Okongwu on his tail.  Gallo isn't really an SF or combo-F anymore, as he's bulked up and his mobility has decreased.  I guess with the OBiT pick we're not really looking to add a Collins.

ATL can try lots of lineups, since they are now quite deep.
The key is to have defenders around Trae and shooters too.
Trae - Bogdan - Gallo -- that's 3 pretty talented snipers.
Collins & Hunter can hit 3's too.
And Capela will open things up with PnR screen and rolls.

[kidcarter8]

ATL is adding free agents to supplant minutes of their recent draftees.

Isnt this what you criticized the Knicks for?

[bodiddley]

It's not useful if you add in one year vets who won't be here long-term. (Knix)
Different if you're adding in vets who are building blocks and long term starters. (ATL).  But also maybe some of the Knix yute -- Franc/Knox/Smith -- just didn't merit more minutes.  RJB played plenty.

ATL just needs one of Hunter/Reddish to prove out.
I'm not sure about the Gallo signing, but perhaps they just see it as a good investment, as he had some suitors (supposedly). 

Hawks added assets.  Knix only managed that with MaMo.
I wouldn't be surprised to see ATL move Gallo/Reddish or Collins/Reddish in the next year or two.  Even possibly one of Okongwu/Capela.  But for now they can try combos and see what works.  And see how Hunter and Reddish and Huerter develop.

While evaluating

[kidcarter8]

Nets keep Tyler Johnson

Good player.

Meanwhile. I wonder if Knicks are in on this guy

Real Madrid lost star guard Facu Campazzo to the NBA (the Denver Nuggets to be specific) and there is a reported possibility that this may also happen with another player of the team. According to Marca, Real Madrid forward Gabriel Deck will be using the exit clause on his contract with “Blancos” and sign with an NBA club even next week if his team doesn’t present him with an extension offer really soon. There are some NBA teams that have “shown an interest” for the Argentinian player and he’s ready to make the jump, unless something changes with his contract situation with Real

[kidcarter8]

Hawks are going nowhere this year and by winning more games are just limiting what they can do in next year's draft.  8th seed is a LOSER for building teams.

No?