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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15330 on: December 11, 2020, 12:14:56 AM »

There are actually a few Pistons I’m interested to see

Blake Seku Grant Rose and all three first rounders Hayes Stewart Bey.
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« Reply #15331 on: December 11, 2020, 12:22:13 AM »

Watch the white guys as well.  Svi is a hell of a talent.  Cant quibble we didnt take him since we were gifted with MR.
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« Reply #15332 on: December 11, 2020, 12:23:31 AM »

Forgot about Svi. Might be why they felt ok letting go of Kennard. I was wondering who their snipers would be.

If I have this right, they changed the playoff format but not the lottery this year, meaning there is a possibility of grabbing the 9th or 10th slot, having a great character and profile building playoff run, then, if you have another unprotected pick of a team that also falls in the lottery, of heading into the offseason with two high lotto picks to consider.

There’s not much of a chance, but it is a sweet spot to contemplate, with the chip,1,2 being the zebra striped uniswan event.
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« Reply #15333 on: December 11, 2020, 12:31:36 AM »

Theres another new kid - Syrvidis - something like that - as well
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« Reply #15334 on: December 11, 2020, 12:58:35 AM »

Don’t think he’s ripe yet & he might be a 4.

They picked up Musa. S I and Musa will be fun to chase around.
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Nostalgia In Times Square
« Reply #15335 on: December 11, 2020, 11:26:18 AM »

I DVR'd a broadcast of the legendary 1999 opening round death march to Baatan by the first and eight seeds in the East, the Heat and the Knicks. 

Games 1-2-3-4 saw one team dominate the other. 

Game 5 went back and forth, back and forth, a real tenacious nail biter, right down to that memorable Allan Houston basket and fist pump. 

Patrick Ewing played heroically, given how hurting he was.  I know by the time we got out of the East and went on to play the Spurs in the finals, he was gone, though I don't honestly recall the how and why.

What was interesting was the starting lineups. 

Heat

Mourning
PJ Brown
Mashburn
Majerle
Hardaway

And they had the likes of Terry Porter and Tim Weatherspoon coming off the bench. 

Knicks

Ewing
Kurt Thomas
LJ
Houston
Ward

Sprewell was first off the bench, LJ sliding over to PF. 

Then Camby, Chris Childs

Two sets of short rotations. Rick Brunson got a bit of daylight when CW and CC got into foul trouble. 

Was a reminder that even given his offensive limitations, Charlie Ward was a good facilitator and a ferocious defender.  Likewise, Childs, whose offensive portrait in the near field was a little more effective.  Never had the PG of our dreams, and JVG stubbornly refused to task Spree with PG responsibilities, even though he often initiated the offense. 

One of the great undermanned, overachieving Knicks teams.  And it was eye opening to see who effective Camby was coming off the bench at C-PF.  And while injuries plagued him throughout his career, trading him and the pick that could've yielded us Hillario or Stoudamire, endures as one of worst moves in the history of a franchise.  After a transitional recoup year with Denver (funny how often Denver has fucked us in the ass on big trades), MC had four very effective years with the Nuggets, where he was a defensive force, averaging 3-4 blocked shots a year. 

Now is the point where Kiid steps forward to diss Camby's playoffs peformance in 1999-2000, when his mind was clearly not on the game (on a sister who had been sexually assaulted, thank you very much), and to stand up for McDyess, who blew out his limbs one day after mocking Camby for his injury woes in the press.  McDyess did indeed come back, post-Marbury trade, to be an effective role player, much in the manner of how Ron Harper did, in coming back from likewise debilitating injuries, as a defensively oriented specialist.  Likewise was just observing on Basketball-Reference.com how Jamal Crawford was hitting threes at a .455 clip for D'Antoni when Donnie Douche bag offloaded him for Al Harrington and Zach Randolph for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley in his brilliantly crafted scheme to attact LeBron and Chris Bosh...   

To be a Knicks Fan is to SUFFER. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15336 on: December 11, 2020, 11:54:59 AM »

Was a reminder that even given his offensive limitations, Charlie Ward was a good facilitator and a ferocious defender.  Likewise, Childs, whose offensive portrait in the near field was a little more effective.  Never had the PG of our dreams, and JVG stubbornly refused to task Spree with PG responsibilities, even though he often initiated the offense.


Ward shot 39% from deep that year (.396 in playoffs), 83 from the line

Better player than ever given credit for
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15337 on: December 11, 2020, 12:09:21 PM »

Real good team by the way.  Losses during the season weren't  a good accounting of our strength.
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« Reply #15338 on: December 11, 2020, 12:12:21 PM »

To be a Knicks Fan is to SUFFER.

The suffering begins to end tonight

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« Reply #15339 on: December 11, 2020, 12:21:11 PM »

I thought I received an email saying this site was down.  WTF
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« Reply #15340 on: December 11, 2020, 01:20:36 PM »

To be a Knicks Fan is to SUFFER.

The suffering begins to end tonight

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A New More Hopeful Style Of Suffering. 



After enduring a succession of dubious coaches and managing regimes, Rose/Perrin/Aller/Perry and Thibodeau/Payne/Bryant seem to offer a baseline of accountability and minimally some semblance of, if not an out and out plan moving forward, least ways, the patience to try and do things right and not pop a woody at the first shiny objects to appear on the horizon. 

NOT WAITING ON GODOT....

Or, as the Red Auerbach of Irish Scribes put it....

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #15341 on: December 11, 2020, 01:25:30 PM »

Was a reminder that even given his offensive limitations, Charlie Ward was a good facilitator and a ferocious defender.  Likewise, Childs, whose offensive portrait in the near field was a little more effective.  Never had the PG of our dreams, and JVG stubbornly refused to task Spree with PG responsibilities, even though he often initiated the offense.


Ward shot 39% from deep that year (.396 in playoffs), 83 from the line

Better player than ever given credit for

Was not as sexy on the offensive end as Timmy Hardaway SENIOR, but a real gamer.  And his trey percentages went up over time. 



I've posted this before, but I have an abiding memory of Ward planting his feet, and without flinching, absorbing a full speed offensive foul from Shaq that sent him recoiling into the hoops stanchion like Wile E. Coyotoe.  He got the call, and popped right up, when be all rights he should have been on a fucking gurney on his way to intensive care. 
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« Reply #15342 on: December 11, 2020, 02:00:05 PM »

Ian Begley: Obi Toppin said the pace of the NBA game is something he’s adjusting to but, in general, Dayton has prepared him well for this level....said he’s been matched up against Julius Randle during training camp scrimmages. Obi said he’s also matched up against Nerlens Noel and Mitchell Robinson in scrimmages. Toppin said Randle has been really helpful in teaching him/pointing things out to him during camp. – via Twitter IanBegley

For what it's worth....

Modern NBA

Small Ball

Obi Toppin
6'9" 240

Omari Spellman
6'8" 245

Might Thibs be experimenting with giving Obi and/or dark horse Omari minutes at the five where matchups allow? 

Would seem to suggest in the short term that Julius is our PF of the moment going forward. 

Interesting, don't you think, that Obi has been matching up against 4s & 5s, and not 3s, as some of us (well...ME) were projecting? 

Wonder who Knox has been matching up against in practice.  Brazdeikis, MKG, RJ, Bullock? 

Thibs still sorting out what he has, and what combos can work. 

Minimally, taking minutes against two big defensive centers, one would think Coach is casting around for ways of keeping Obi involved and getting him meaningful minutes on the floor. 

Stay tuned. 

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« Reply #15343 on: December 11, 2020, 02:09:45 PM »

Would seem to suggest in the short term that Julius is our PF of the moment going forward.


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« Reply #15344 on: December 11, 2020, 02:40:09 PM »

Would seem to suggest in the short term that Julius is our PF of the moment going forward.


Never ever in doubt

Most people on the internet and on this forum have him and a garbage trawler out of town. 

Thibs has been boosting him since the first pre-camp encounters....liked his attitude, his conditioning, and his leadership.   

Perhaps, PERHAPS, long term, he is trade bait, a la Morris. 

Right now, not feeling it.  In the here and now, he is our bell cow. 
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