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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[chipstern]

Berman's rather preposterous.  or click-baiting.

One good quarter of one pre-season game against 5 Cavs who haven't played int he NBA.  Just a tad early to see the future and gloat.

Wasn't Knox a pre-season stud his rook year?

Wouldnt expect you to be positive

Articles arent click bait - they are actually in the newspaper

That does not lend them any more credence. 

[chipstern]

Why would Philly trade Ben Simmons? 

Why would Miami sunder their chemistry and offload excellent youngYoungYOUNG talents on the upswing to bring on an egomaniacal talent, no matter how gifted, who couldn't abide a player who epitomizes winning, competitive culture like Chris Paul.  Give up Duncan Robinson and/or Tyler Herro?

Seriously. 

Harden is perhaps the preeminent offensive force in the modern game, and he showed in the bubble that he is a fine facilitator and defensive player when so motivated.

But the idea that winning cultures such as Miami and Milwaukee, let alone teams on the upswing like Philly and Brooklyn would gut their teams and sunder their cultures to accomodate this martinet. 

Harden has poisoned the trade waters irreperably. 

He might want to take a deep fucking breath and take a long look at the likes of Christian Wood, John Wall and DeMarcus Couins, let alone returning warriors such as Eric Gordon and PJ Tucker.  They have the makings of a very competitive, contending team in the West.  Be a TEAM MATE, Mate.

Who is HOU supposed to ask for in a Harden deal?  Keep in mind - PHI, BKN and MIA were chosen by James, not the Rockets

Right now the only team that really had the resources to indulge Houston's lust for draft picks is....

Surprise.

The OKC Thunder.

I suspect that is not Harden's ultimate destination. 

Not OKC's. 

[kidcarter8]

Good list Chip thanks

I think some of the "why would they leave?" questions might be answered with dollar signs.  We will see.

[kidcarter8]

Knicks have the picks for Harden.  Let's build a hypothetical

Barrett (not saying I do it), Randle, 2 number 1s, but not our own '21.

What else?

[chipstern]

Knicks have the picks for Harden.  Let's build a hypothetical

Barrett (not saying I do it), Randle, 2 number 1s, but not our own '21.

What else?

Five Pom Pom Gurls, Four Negative Nancies, Three Turtle Doves, Two French Hens, And A Partridge [Family] In A Pear Tree....

Last time we went all in on a shiny object, well, it didn't work out very well. 

[bodiddley]

I'm certain the Knix will trade for Harden...


In 3 or 4 years and likely after he's had an injury or nervous breakdown to boot.

[kidcarter8]

By the way Chip - just looking at the other side of it - and certainly respecting the building (on the rise) teams in the East that you mention in asking why they want JH -

Who won last year?  One of the West risers from previous seasons or a West team that went out and grabbed their roster piece by piece after a number of quite uncertain years?

(Didnt Lakers leapfrog the builders by adding a stud+?  And give up fine young talent in the process?)

[kidcarter8]

Said another way - isnt Ben Simmons akin to Brandon Ingram?

[chipstern]

Said another way - isnt Ben Simmons akin to Brandon Ingram?

NO. 

Lakers gave up a significant package. 

But they were getting back ANTHONY DAVIS. 

I am not dismissing JAMES HARDEN by any stretch of the imagination. 

But I do not see him as being as impactful a culture changer as AD. 

Least ways, Lakers still had somevery good assets, and played the free agent market creatively to assemble a competitive squad around LeBron and AD. 

Simmons?  Ingraham? 

Your guess is as good as mine. 

But if I am Morey, I do not gut the team and shred chemistry to make a Hershel Walker Trade. 

Was Melo the premier player in the Knicks-Nuggets Trade?

By all means. 

Did we gut our team to make the deal?

Sure did, and Melo was surrounded by the ghost or Amare and Billups, and little fucking else. 

Oh, and the second #1 Denver extorted from us?  Which allowed them to swamp first rounders?

Jamal Murray.

How's that working for us? 

Turtle V. Hare?

I opt for the turtle. 

[kidcarter8]

Five Pom Pom Gurls, Four Negative Nancies, Three Turtle Doves, Two French Hens, And A Partridge [Family] In A Pear Tree....


In the spirit of Christmas....

Three french hens and two turtle doves.

[kidcarter8]

Last time we went all in on a shiny object, well, it didn't work out very well.


Well, you have to complete the puzzle

[Jerrya]

Quickley is becoming one of my favorite Knicks!  Should be the starting PG soon. The difference between him and the shit we have is he can shoot— that’s Important

He can shoot, he can dribble, he has good court vision and is aggressive.

[kidcarter8]

Oh, and the second #1 Denver extorted from us?  Which allowed them to swamp first rounders?

Jamal Murray.

How's that working for us?

Turtle V. Hare?

I opt for the turtle.

You suspect we would have drafted Jamal?

heh

Take a look at the post Carmelo deals made by NYK.  My point again being you have to continue with the build.  (bear in mind I didnt like/want the Melo deal, preferred to wait, though seeing him with Nets would have been painful)

By the way - in the deal where we lose the Murray pick - we added the #9, which had we kept it could have been Sabonis - as long as you like hypoteheticals.

(That pick was dealt for Andrea Bargnani)

But anyway - deals after acquiring Melo included

- drafting forum fave Iman Shumpert (over NY's own Tobias Harris)
- dealing for Ty Chandler
- replacing an old Billups with names such as Bibby, B Davis and J Lin
- clamping on to JR Smith for dear life
- adding Kidd
- trading for Camby, Felton and K Thomas (contracts rather than cap room)
- Q Richardson, R Wallace, K Martin - vets, vets, more (do they mesh?) vets
- *draft T Hardaway Jr (some hope)
- re-sign JR
- re-sgn Prigioni
- sign - ahem - Ron Artest
- re-sign Kenyon Martin (come on!)
- Deal for Barnani (inc pick that  would be Sabonis and of course our dear Marcus Camby)

Can I stop and ask now - what the fuck were we doing post Melo deal?  You really want to blame it on the one deal in that time that kind of made any sense?

[kidcarter8]

At least all that shit got us the chance at PHIL JACKSON, which we of course then handled dreadfully

[kidcarter8]

Quickley is becoming one of my favorite Knicks!  Should be the starting PG soon. The difference between him and the shit we have is he can shoot— that’s Important

He can shoot, he can dribble, he has good court vision and is aggressive.

Poise
Calm
ONIONS!

Can IQ run it?  Not sure.  But this is why the one year deal to Payton was wise.  Ig he can, there isnt an extra deal kicking around.

(expect Payton to be among the Feb or pre Feb deals as long as we arent - cough - contending)