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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16635 on: January 25, 2021, 12:48:31 AM »

Took us too long to get them out of their zone.

Burks had some zip.

Not as disappointing an outing as it was heading into halftime. I think we got some useful film out of the exercise.

Utah up next.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16636 on: January 25, 2021, 12:54:21 AM »

No McCollum or Nurk; Hood & Kanter starting in their place.
Burks starting for NYK

1Q
Mitch 0-2, both blocked by Covington. Who also got down on the pine ripped away the loose ball and made a sweet pass from the floor to Kanter for a layup.
Blazers going Zone early -- that's the scouting report on the Knix
Elf all over Dame, but Lillard looking smooth & unruffled

Knix getting killed.
Quickly looking pretty good; Rivers a mess.
Giles with some nice hustle – also missed 3 bunnies

Not sure why, but RJB was uncharacteristically silent 1st half
Quickie messed up last possession of the half; letting POR get a fats break bucket

3Q
Burks back to all-star mode (though worst Knick +/-).
Notice it's Burks left trying to close out on POR 3-ballers.  Not his forte.
RJB still MIA.  But Knix hanging around.
Melo shooting poorly (2-11 so far), but making contributions

4Q
Knix do a lot of taking a foul to slow down early offense
Usually Bullox.  But Knix doing it twice this game w/out Bollcoks. 
Why do we do this?

Quickie getting the Knix back in it.
Odd game – Quix and Burx combining for 38.
Trent & Simons = 24 on 6-11 on 3’s.
Lillard the difference, but it’s role player G’s doing a lot of the damage.

Kant D(!) frustrating Randle
Simon says “3”
Knix getting a lot of turnovers once they started doubling late.
Blazers announcers were surprised Knix didn’t double-team a hot Lillard in the 3Q & 4Q to get the ball out of his hands.

Lillard 66 straight made FT’s.
Career high for IQ – was rooting for him to get 30.

Knic got scrappy and made it a dogfight.
Some iffy late calls.  I didn't think Quick should get FT's on a rip-thru; Kanter forced Randle's arm to pop Covington in the choppers.  Though in an odd way semi-helpful, as that meant Knix got the ball back after POR FT's with no time off the clock.

Nice to see Knix compete with both RJB & Randle tired.
Lotta POR role players stepped up: Simons, Trent, Kant, Giles, DJ Jr.
Knix really needed one more guy to get hot or make an impact Tops/Knocks/AuRevoir didn't do much off the bench
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« Reply #16637 on: January 25, 2021, 02:19:45 AM »

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Immanuel Quickley is the first rookie with 30+ PTS and 5+ 3PM in a game off the bench in Knicks franchise history.
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« Reply #16638 on: January 25, 2021, 02:20:54 AM »

IQ isn't starting because ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16639 on: January 25, 2021, 03:27:09 AM »

Jump passes immediately comes to mind. Other than that...
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« Reply #16640 on: January 25, 2021, 06:59:54 AM »

Thibs likely wants to continue with the solid D and the benefit of keeping his starting unit together.  Elf is a pest on D.  Was this the 2nd game Knix didn't have the same starting 5?  And only one player switched (Bollocks hurt; Burks filling in).

We could use the extra 3-point shooting, as Elf clanks.  But IQ has been streaky on 3's.  Prior to this 5-8 gem, he was 3-11 last 3 games.  Earlier had a 1-12 4 game bricky streak from deep.  If IQ was a reliable 3-baller that might force Thibs hand.

Starting, NYK would rely on Quickie handling PnR's and executing the D schemes against starting PG's.  Do you really want Quick guarding Scurvy and Dame? 
While running the O.  That's a lot on a rook's plate. 

I like the way TomThumb is handling it.  Elf starting and Quix finishing.  Adjust minutes according to who is playing well.  Love having an excellent FT shooter out there at the end of games.  Elf & Quick are proving a pretty solid PG tandem.  Jr. Smith a total afterthought.  Good job rook.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16641 on: January 25, 2021, 09:12:16 AM »

lol, you cannot get more eaten alive than Elf was ingested by Dame.
No worries about Quick guarding those types. No downside compared to the current.
There is no benefit to keeping this starting unit together.
The density on O with Elf suffocating things is like, black hole dense, IQ & Burks are instant open uppers. RJB will prob demand a trade by Feb if it doesn't change.
It will change soon enough, no worries Kam.

3-11. 28%. That Quick bad streak is BETTER THAN ELF'S SEASON AVERAGE, lol. Actually, its his lifetime career average.

(Elf is so lucky there are no fans at MSG. The howling would be deafening).
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« Reply #16642 on: January 25, 2021, 10:05:20 AM »

Re. Smith Jr

One thing with Thibs - we won't be saying he is playing a guy to up his trade value.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16643 on: January 25, 2021, 10:08:21 AM »

Is it just me or does Toppin look slow?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16644 on: January 25, 2021, 10:16:17 AM »

Not playing DSjr INCREASES his trade value. Harder to tell that he's an instant 10 point deficit if he never gets in a game.


*** his current trade value = one pack of Watermelon Now & Laters.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16645 on: January 25, 2021, 10:17:37 AM »

Someone on twitter said that "Toppin moves like an old man, yet jumps like a kangaroo"
I haven't seen ObiT enough, but will try to observe.


Lillard was playing at a crazy high level.
Elf had much better luck harassing Scurry.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16646 on: January 25, 2021, 11:40:48 AM »

Someone on twitter said that "Toppin moves like an old man, yet jumps like a kangaroo"
I haven't seen ObiT enough, but will try to observe.


Lillard was playing at a crazy high level.
Elf had much better luck harassing Scurry.

Alec Burks

18 points in 27 minutes on 6-9 FGs

5-8 Trey

4 boards, 1 assist, 3 steals

Sayeth BoD: "Yawn.  Overrated Journeyman."

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16647 on: January 25, 2021, 11:53:24 AM »

Well Bo can think what he likes about Burks, but the funny part is his continued insistence that Thibs values Bulloxks more...all while Thibs has given more minutes to Burks..

EVERY SINGLE GAME, PRE AND POST INJURY
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« Reply #16648 on: January 25, 2021, 12:44:32 PM »

Well Bo can think what he likes about Burks, but the funny part is his continued insistence that Thibs values Bulloxks more...all while Thibs has given more minutes to Burks..

EVERY SINGLE GAME, PRE AND POST INJURY

Well, Thibs likes Reggie's D, but Reggie is hurting, so we shall see when Bullock comes back. 

Bo thinks we should have signed BB to the contract Atlanta gave him.  We disagree. 

Bo thinks we should have made a run at Christian Wood.  We agree.  Know he was on our radar before we drafted Obi.  We appear to have struck gold on High IQ. 

As per the issue of starting? 

Last night Elfrid played 24 and Immanuel played 24. 

IQ is wending his way to signficantly more minutes.  Worth recalling that it took IQ a number of games coming back from injury to shake off the rust on get into rhythm. 

We know Thibs LOVES High IQ.  I get the sense he wants to make his a starter in all but starting. 

Remember a very talented Jazz PF/SF name of Thurl Bailey? 

There was a period of time early on in the Strockton/Malone/Eaton Epoch when the Jazz used to start Marc Ianaroni and bring Thurl in off the bench, affording him cushier matchups as a 6'11" PF/SF. 

Proving?

Not a damn thing. 

But I think Thibs is trying to ease IQ in, not that he doesn't believe in him, quite the contrary, and he came damn close to helping us pull out a game we had no right to be in after a horrific first half. 

I don't think Thibs wants to lose Elfrid, who seems to shine maybe 1-out-of-3 games, what with Frank coming back and Austin Rivers also competing for minutes. 

Austin appears to be hurting, because after a hot start, he has come down to Earth. 

Me personally? 

I would like to see an IQ/French Frank combo, with Frank D-ing up and playing both on and off the ball, with Burks and RJ and Bullock fighting for minutes at the 3. 

But as per IQ? 

It's coming. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #16649 on: January 25, 2021, 01:20:17 PM »

TyH would have been much better than Bogdanovich (or Topping).
TyH and Wood (+Quickly) would have been terrific

The IQ/Rivers pairing had been working well.

"Thibs doesn't play rooks."  - Doug McDermott
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