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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17205 on: February 18, 2021, 05:09:58 PM »

I have watched a bunch of Gonzaga games this year.  Kispert can shoot it lights out but i'm not sure why they have him at 17 but teammate Drew Timme is projected to go so low at  57. I would take the value of a Timme draft choice over Kispert.  Timme is bigger and has the same or better stats across the board except is only shooting 43% from 3 and 68% from the line.  Timme takes far fewer threes but I'm sure that would change in the NBA.   Kispert is more one-dimensional (half his shot attempts are 3 pointers) of a prospect ala Doug McDermott.  Not bad at all .... but Timme could be an undervalued guy. The kind Pat Riley would scoop up in the 2nd round for Miami.   Maybe even draft both of them!

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2250
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17206 on: February 18, 2021, 05:28:50 PM »

When I saw Kispert he reminded me of BOBBY JONES

I think he is the better athlete of the 2.  Not always right but that plays when getting into first round.
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Knicks have nothing to lose by trading for All-Star center [Marc Berman, NIMROD]
« Reply #17207 on: February 18, 2021, 06:45:46 PM »

My GOD

https://nypost.com/2021/02/18/knicks-have-nothing-to-lose-by-trading-for-andre-drummond/

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This makes ZERO sense for the Knicks.

Nothing to lose?!

Only thing you have to lose is an asset. Oh and room in the already clogged paint. And defensive versatility. Don't forget team chemistry, as well.

Other than that, nothing else, I guess.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #17209 on: February 19, 2021, 12:58:10 PM »

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Assuming Harden joins Jaylen Brown and Trae Young as East backcourt reserves, that leaves East coaches just four spots for a group of players that includes 2020 All-Stars Butler, Bam Adebayo, Khris Middleton, Domantas Sabonis, Ben Simmons and Jayson Tatum plus Malcolm Brogdon, Tobias Harris, Gordon Hayward, Zach LaVine, Julius Randle, Fred VanVleet and Nikola Vucevic.

Randle, Vuc, Sabonis, Bam and Simmons all seem very deserving.

Bo would leave off Harden.  Missed 14 out of 31 games.  That's nearly half the season.  Plus screwed over his old team.  Drop Harden and all 5 above make the AS team.
KD would be borderline -- missed 12 of 31.
Also, Butler has missed too much time.

FVV and Tatum have been impressive, though I think Tatum has been slumping (haven't followed BOS in a few weeks).
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« Reply #17210 on: February 19, 2021, 03:07:29 PM »

I don't think it's that close. The stats are gaudy. There are so many arguments for Julius — his impact is undeniable. And every team targets him, because we have no other stars. Does anyone think that Khris Middleton would do as well over here if, say, he took the place of Julius?

Maybe I'm blinded by my Knick fandom. Don't know. But it seems awfully clear to me.
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« Reply #17211 on: February 19, 2021, 04:16:39 PM »

I don't think it's that close. The stats are gaudy. There are so many arguments for Julius — his impact is undeniable. And every team targets him, because we have no other stars. Does anyone think that Khris Middleton would do as well over here if, say, he took the place of Julius?

Maybe I'm blinded by my Knick fandom. Don't know. But it seems awfully clear to me.

To me, the predominant players are all of the bigs: Sabonis, Bam, Julius and Vucevic. 

But they are all worthy. 
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« Reply #17212 on: February 19, 2021, 05:34:50 PM »

A wonderful portrait of Julius on JJ's podcast. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2nnE9JoJPBpDJUDSqZ6Zt6_UVihJ-HPsWMEkO_cW1UILuUSS7qxQ1j8mQ&v=Db31ESX-Vm8&feature=youtu.be

Apros pos of JJ Reddick, he is no spring chicken at 36, and perhaps from age, or perhaps from usage, there has been a fall off in his play under Stan Van Gundy. 

Last season in 26.2 minutes a game, based on 6.6 shots, he was converting treys at a .453% clip, this season in 18.2 minutes, only [ONLY] .368%, however his FT% is .972% based on 35-36 shots, whereas last season he finished with .892% based on 165-185. 

Not saying we SHOULD, but that we MIGHT consider giving NO some cap relief for JJ's expiring $13 million, maybe for one of our future #2 picks, though we would have to pry a body loose for a roster spot, say, Austin Rivers, who I like, but we still have Frank, and I am not sure I would parlay Frank and or Kevin for a 36 year old, even if he puts me in mind of Pablo Prigioni, in terms of peidgree, experience, leadership and still significant skill set. 

JJ Redick is a down cat, a good teammate, and has a crib in Brooklyn. 

From what we saw against Orlando, it would not hurt to have a sniper like that to unleash in the fourth quarter.  And like Derrick, would have much value as both a sniper and a mentor as we hunker down for a playoff push. 

Oladipo.  Levine.  You kidding me.  We'd have to gut our team and our assets.  Why do people think the Bulls are shopping Zach?  Seriously? 

Marc Berman's wet dream?  Andre Drummond?  Bad fit.  Tyson Chandler?  If it comes to that.

Anyway, this is a really nice interview, and Julius comes across as warm cat, a down dude, and a good Daddy.

Let alone, A FUCKING ALLSTAR. 
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« Reply #17213 on: February 19, 2021, 06:04:52 PM »

Love me some Luka. 

But in what quadrant of the known galaxy is this MF not atop every all star ballot, let alone a perennial starter?  SERIOUSLY? 

An iron man, a leader, and who at 30, is getting better and better and shows no signs of having peaked. 

Oh, and totally loyal to his coach, his team and the city of Portland.  Not looking to pull a James Harden. 

A M-A-N. 
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« Reply #17214 on: February 19, 2021, 09:26:59 PM »

I hadnt heard anyone targeting Randle, elephant.

Can you recall any murmurs that we could trade him?

Or did you mean they target him - as in guarding him closely and/or with multiple players?
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« Reply #17215 on: February 19, 2021, 09:34:44 PM »

He means Randle is the clear main focus of opposition defense, our obvious A1A alpha dog player.
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« Reply #17216 on: February 19, 2021, 09:46:43 PM »

He means Randle is the clear main focus of opposition defense, our obvious A1A alpha dog player.

Fac, Chamaco must know what elephant meant. Even he can't be so dim!

I think he was just trying, unsuccessfully, to be witty and ironically funny.

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« Reply #17217 on: February 19, 2021, 10:18:12 PM »

Alas, 0-for-7 in 21 minutes.

But with 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 3 blocks. 

Go figure. 
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« Reply #17218 on: February 19, 2021, 10:19:23 PM »

Alas, 0-for-7 in 21 minutes.

But with 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 3 blocks. 

Go figure.

PS: Grant is 5-20. So it's a group grope on offense. 
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« Reply #17219 on: February 19, 2021, 10:20:04 PM »

Leave Harden off the AS team.  Played just 17 of 31 games for BKY.
Another 8 for HOU, where he wasn't in shape, was disengaged, missed a few games because he partied without a mask, and bailed on his team.  That's an all-star?

Randle, Sabonis, Simmons, Bam, Vuc all deserving.

FVV and Tatum not far off.



Westbrook: 40 / 30 / 62 shooting splits.
That's real bad.
I saw a Wiz game the other day where Westbrook just shot WAS out of a tight game with a number of clanks in clutch time.  He also made two hustle plays saving balls from going out of bounds.   But just running around as a one man team isn't basketball.
Yuck.  Rustbrook has been one of the least clutch stars his whole career, dating back to OKC days.
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