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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Minny did very well.
If PHI could have added Butler while keeping Covington, they'd be in great shape.  As it is they add Butler's D but lose Covington's (he was guarding PG's to end a game recently, and can guard 1-4, whereas Butler can't move up to handle Bigs).  They lose two 3-point shooters for Butler.  Btw, Covington a much better player than Saric.

PHI must have gotten assurance that Butler would re-sign with them.
Now they have to worry that Butler will mesh with the team and not dominate the locker room.  I don't think PHI has the depth to make such a trade.   Now they have to count on creaky vets Wil & Amir.

I would have offered only Saric, McConnell & one of Amir/Wil.  Or if you really wanted Butler, been willing to do Saric, McConehead, Shamet.  Going forward, PHI doesn't need all of Fultz, Zhaire, Shamet.
Fultz - Butler - Covington - Simmons - Embiid would be murderous.

I'd much rather lose Shamet than Covington.  Part of the problem is that both MIni and Philly have surplus PG's.

Good haul for Minny - gives them a 3&D reolacement for Butler and adds depth (though thins them out at SG (where Wig can play).  Opens minutes for Okogie.
PHI gave up too much and imbalanced their lineup, weakening their bench.

[facilitatorn]

If there is someone you really like in the lottery, playing Kanter big minutes is the ticket to improving our lotto position.

If Kanter gets us Zion to take his spot next year then he will have been a great help to the Knicks though never a great Knick.

[bodiddley]

Zion was 6'6" 280 in high school.  Then dropped 30 pounds.
Lets see how he does in College . . .

[kiiidcarter8]

 SIXTY TWO in one half for JIMMER

24-34 from the field for the game.  Sharks unfortunately lose on a buzzer beater 137-136

75 points
62 in second half
40 in 4th quarter

7-10 on 3s
20-21 from ft line

8 rebounds
7 assists
4 steals

[kiiidcarter8]

If Knicks get KD and stay pat after that are we better than Boston?

How about KD and a top 5?

Celtics as we know will be bottom scraping this draft as they wonder if they erred with Tatum and if Kyrie lied to them.

[bankshot1]

If Knicks get KD and stay pat after that are we better than Boston?

How about KD and a top 5?

Celtics as we know will be bottom scraping this draft as they wonder if they erred with Tatum and if Kyrie lied to them.

kid your obssession and obtuseness re young Mr. Tatum is fascinating.

No matter where the Celts pick settles from the 76ers re Fultz trade, (my hope remains a nice lottery pick-its long season) it should have occured to you that the 76ers by getting Butler and adding another ball dominant guy, are de-emphasizing Fultz's role in Philly. at a minimum Fultz needs the ball, and he ain't gonna be getting it, not with 3 hungrier and better guys who will demand it. 

Put another away the clock is ticking for Mr Fultz in Philly. 

But like most things that take some thought and understanding this escaped you.

and whether you understand it or not, Tatum is the real deal, and the trade was a steal,

Of far greater interest than rehashing your misunderstanding of that trade, is the battles to come atop the East.

Raptor-Celts-Bucks-76ers

the depth in the East is getting pretty deep.
   

[Kam]

Raptor-Celts-Bucks-76ers

the depth in the East is getting pretty deep.
 

Yep.


Curious.  How would you rank the East best?

My Top Players in the Eastern Conference.

1. MIL  Giannis
2. TOR Kawhi
3. PHI  Embiid
4. PHI  Simmons
5. PHI  Butler
6. BOS Irving
7. MIL  Middleton
8. CHA Walker
9. TOR Lowry
10. ?   Junior?

[bankshot1]

Raptor-Celts-Bucks-76ers

the depth in the East is getting pretty deep.
 

Yep.


Curious.  How would you rank the East best?

My Top Players in the Eastern Conference.

1. MIL  Giannis
2. TOR Kawhi
3. PHI  Embiid
4. PHI  Simmons
5. PHI  Butler
6. BOS Irving
7. MIL  Middleton
8. CHA Walker
9. TOR Lowry
10. ?   Junior?

Honestly I don't think about it.

I'd probably add Victor O to your list, he's impressed me over the past couple of years and John Wall

your 1-2-3 looks reasonable, but IMO Butler and Simmons too high.

[kiidcarter8]

stop with the tanking talk.  Ny is not winning anything with or without EK.  you need to develop Robinson for the future because NY is not giving EK a large piece of their cap.

team is simply not good enough right now to complete.

let's see what we look like a year from now.

KP back,  Knox and Robinson get a year under heir belt.  we get another lottery pick.  someone takes our money.  hopefully.

we shall see.  the present is not good.  the future is the unknown.

Nice thought - to develop Robinson

But Knicks have to also keep Kanter's value up.  He is almost DEFINITELY being dealt.

To develop Mitchell you would need to post him up - and at times bring him out to receive facing the basket.  Not sure this is plan A, B or Z for these Knicks for this season.   MR's high flying act will have to suffice (and I am fine with that)

[kiidcarter8]

Meanwhile THJ continues to play at an All Star level (20.3 PER amidst his improving defense and leadership)

But sometimes you have to wait a year.  As we saw with KP.....maybe Tim makes it NEXT season off what he does this campaign

[kiidcarter8]

Raptor-Celts-Bucks-76ers

the depth in the East is getting pretty deep.
 

Yep.


Curious.  How would you rank the East best?

My Top Players in the Eastern Conference.

1. MIL  Giannis
2. TOR Kawhi
3. PHI  Embiid
4. PHI  Simmons
5. PHI  Butler
6. BOS Irving
7. MIL  Middleton
8. CHA Walker
9. TOR Lowry
10. ?   Junior?

Honestly I don't think about it.

I'd probably add Victor O to your list, he's impressed me over the past couple of years and John Wall

your 1-2-3 looks reasonable, but IMO Butler and Simmons too high.

Yeah - he forgot Vic (top 5) and a couple others

[thebizneverloses]

SIXTY TWO in one half for JIMMER

24-34 from the field for the game.  Sharks unfortunately lose on a buzzer beater 137-136

75 points
62 in second half
40 in 4th quarter

7-10 on 3s
20-21 from ft line

8 rebounds
7 assists
4 steals

Pierre Jackson got 65/8/5 opposite Jimmer. Pierre Jackson.

Third tier league, at best.

Reminds me of the time I played pick-up against a point guard who had just finished his first year playing pro in the Adriatic League. He was shooting from two steps in half court, etc, scoring at will while mostly looking just to set people up. There were decent players, I had thought, who normally came out to this weekly game but this 5'8 dude was destroying us.

That's Jimmer.

You're posting breathless highlights like it matters in any way in an NBA context.

[bodiddley]

Very little D in China.
Plus, JimJam is allowed to shoot anything at anytime.
It's all a little crazy.

Blake, Drummond, Wall, Beal.
This year so far Ibaka and Whiteside are killing it.

[Kam]

Butler going to the 76'ers this season swings the balance.

If he stays long-term in Philaldelphia it doesn't change the face of the East very much.

Boston and Philly were always gonna be near the top.

Glad he didn't go to Miami, as that is a team we should be competing with next season.

[Nagel]

stop with the tanking talk.  Ny is not winning anything with or without EK.  you need to develop Robinson for the future because NY is not giving EK a large piece of their cap.

team is simply not good enough right now to complete.

let's see what we look like a year from now.

KP back,  Knox and Robinson get a year under heir belt.  we get another lottery pick.  someone takes our money.  hopefully.

we shall see.  the present is not good.  the future is the unknown.

Nice thought - to develop Robinson

But Knicks have to also keep Kanter's value up.  He is almost DEFINITELY being dealt.

To develop Mitchell you would need to post him up - and at times bring him out to receive facing the basket.  Not sure this is plan A, B or Z for these Knicks for this season.   MR's high flying act will have to suffice (and I am fine with that)

everyone already knows what EK can do now.  so keeping his value up is makes no sense what so ever.  his game won't be changing.  he bounds and he scores down low.  that is it.