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Re: Knicks
« Reply #20775 on: October 13, 2021, 03:29:24 PM »

You are no doubt a good man in other circles, FacMan.  But have lost your way here.

Be well.

Thanks.

If you cannot find a country with low enough standards to take you in, I recommend that you try to settle on the pacific garbage patch and try to eek out some sort of a living there.
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« Reply #20777 on: October 13, 2021, 03:34:15 PM »

Facil, regarding your OKC trade scenario? 

Kyrie had a championship run with one of the all time greats in LeBron James. 

He wanted out of Cleveland. 

Boston gave up a King's ransom in assets, and divested themselves of key pieces to open up cap space to team him with a talented young core.  Said he was going to reup. 

He left the Celtics. 

Wanted to team up with Kevin Durant, who extended himself to bring Kyrie on board to play for the team he was a fan of as a kid. 

Even with a roster filled with talent, a growing fan base, a generous supportive owner, and a clear run at an NBA championship for the city of Brooklyn, Kyrie has prioritized being a symbol of vaccination resistance to those people who prioritize their bodies over the greater community good. 

Kyrie is a great talent, and is given to charitable and noble outreaches. 

We differ on this being one of them. 

He is going to make 17 million dollars this year for copping a pose and vogueing a la Madonna, or those millionaire celebs saving the Brazilian rainforests or standing up for the environment by flying to Green Party rallies in their private jets.  He is going to collect half of his contractual monies, tantamount to what Evan Fournier will be paid this season to play full time for the Knicks.

He is getting paid for doing nothing.  He has utterly fucked Nyets GM Sean Marks, owner Joe Tsai, his team mates and the people of Brooklyn.  Durant and Harden and everyone is saying "the right thing" vis a vis his personal choice and principles. 

Kyrie's sense of entitlement is EPIC. 

Trades?

Seriously? 

Who in their right minds would commit to this remarkably self absorbed manchild and put their entire enterprise and the livelihoods and aspirations of multitudes of people at risk? 

The Nyets, it would seem, are hedging their bets by paying him, perhaps projecting re-signing him as a free agent in some Post-Pandemic scenarios.  Paying him ANYTHING is a colossal miscalculation.  Much as the Sixers combined fines with putting Gentle Ben's salary in an escrow account until he came to his senses, the Nyets should simply pocket their 35 million and show this motherfucker the door. 

FUCK KYRIE IRVING. 
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« Reply #20778 on: October 13, 2021, 03:41:06 PM »

Gosh... cut and paste breaks when it sees an apostrophe or an ellipsis. 

Can't paste ... this
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« Reply #20779 on: October 13, 2021, 03:41:56 PM »

Life in the Fast Lane

From the moment Tom Thibodeau took over as head coach of the Chicago Bulls, he was saddled with a reputation of believing wholeheartedly that slow and steady wins the race.

Gifted one of the fastest and athletic point guards in the history of basketball, Thibs nonetheless had Chicago's offense running at a bottom-10 pace. Whether Derrick Rose was off the court or on it, it didnt matter.


Through the rest of Thibodeaus Bulls tenure and nearly the entirety of his Minnesota one, that did not really change. Chicago was in the bottom-four in pace for three straight seasons after that first go around, and topped out at 19th in Thibs final year there. Then in his two full seasons in Minny, the Wolves ranked 23rd each year.

Thibodeau himself will be the first to remind you that the second of those campaigns saw KAT, Jimmy & Co sport the 4th ranked offense in the league, so it aint like slow was not the way to go, at least for them. But then in his final half season, something funny happened. On the day Thibs was fired, the Wolves ranked 12th in pace, which was by far the highest number one of his teams ever achieved.

Which brings us to the tin-foil hat theory of the day, and the reason why I do not necessarily think what we are seeing from the Knicks - current owners of the 13th fastest offense in the league - is foolz gold. If you believe that the preseason is a time for experimenting with stuff you
are not completely comfortable trotting out in games, it seems Thibodeau was working his way up to having a faster team over the course of several years.

After never having his team play fast during their preseason outings in Chicago, Thibs had the Wolves playing at the 9th fastest pace of any NBA team during his first preseason there, then 8th the year after that, and then 5th in his third and final season. The games may not have counted, but the trend was clearly pointing up.

And then last season, pffft. The Knicks played at the slowest pace in the league, something Thibs apparently felt mighty comfortable with from the outset of camp, as the Knicks were 29th in the preseason as well.

But they did not have Derrick Rose to start the year surely they improved after that!

Indeed they did, all the way up to 29th.

While Rose certainly helped, if you look at the on/off numbers, they indicate that the team actually played faster with Elfrid Payton on the floor. The fact is that Thibs knew that the best way to maximize a roster with so little offensive firepower was to grind the game down to a fine powder and hope that opponent got lost in the dust. For the most part, it worked.

Except fast forward to playoff time, and the only team left blindly feeling their way through the darkness was New York. They did not have another gear, and the result was ugly.

But they also did not have much of a choice. As Thibodeau correctly identified, New York did not have the personnel to aptly run like the wind. That has very much changed, and now, New York can put four players on the court at all times who can both move with the ball and shoot it. The early results have been encouraging.

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« Reply #20780 on: October 13, 2021, 03:44:15 PM »

And he will pay for it, Chip - monetarily - and dearly - unless he does get vaccinated.

Recall major leaguers who have their "visa problems" and miss parts of their training camps.  A bit of a ruse.

Kyrie could still end up getting the jab.  I have predicted he will.

Stay tuned.

And lets not crucify the guy all year if he does come back and is playing well.  COVID sucks - and has produced consequences none of us deserve.  This is no exception.
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« Reply #20781 on: October 13, 2021, 03:48:12 PM »

"getting the jab"

heh

Isn't it funny how only idiots say that?  As if it is just a painful chore, rather than a life-saving modern fucking miracle.
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« Reply #20782 on: October 13, 2021, 03:56:45 PM »

"getting the jab"

heh

Isn't it funny how only idiots say that?  As if it is just a painful chore, rather than a life-saving modern fucking miracle.

Very true, Kam. Very true.

Chip, I was not implying OKC wants Kyrie for his own sake. They can take assets from the Nyets like Cam Thomas, since Brooklyn has the ticking clock running on Harden and Durant making them desperate, by continuing the Thunder practice of harboring the leagues broken and overpaid.
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« Reply #20783 on: October 13, 2021, 05:10:48 PM »

"getting the jab"

heh

Isn't it funny how only idiots say that?  As if it is just a painful chore, rather than a life-saving modern fucking miracle.

Very true, Kam. Very true.

Chip, I was not implying OKC wants Kyrie for his own sake. They can take assets from the Nyets like Cam Thomas, since Brooklyn has the ticking clock running on Harden and Durant making them desperate, by continuing the Thunder practice of harboring the leagues broken and overpaid.

I understand.

Worth  noting that Horford and Walker were very high character team first types.

Cam Thomas is going to Inherit many of Irving's minutes.

Irving is untradeable.

No reason to sunder a jewell like Thomas to rid themselves of a tarnished turd like Kyrie.

PS: I was on record as being opposed to pursuing Kyrie as a FA when we had the hots for Durant.
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« Reply #20784 on: October 13, 2021, 05:20:30 PM »

The Nyets, it would seem, are hedging their bets by paying him, perhaps projecting re-signing him as a free agent in some Post-Pandemic scenarios.  Paying him ANYTHING is a colossal miscalculation. 


They HAVE to pay Kyrie for the games they are not allowing him to play
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« Reply #20785 on: October 13, 2021, 05:21:35 PM »

Cam Thomas is going to Inherit many of Irving's minutes.


He will make it a bit easier - since his scoring accounts for some lost

But Patty Mills and Bruce Brown benefit most
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« Reply #20786 on: October 13, 2021, 07:14:12 PM »

Full practice today.

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« Reply #20787 on: October 13, 2021, 08:27:59 PM »

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« Reply #20788 on: October 13, 2021, 10:08:09 PM »

3-0, still rolling. Kemba gets his rest day. Resting Rose for number four is also a good idea.

Taj Gibson is a fucking gem.
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« Reply #20789 on: October 14, 2021, 12:23:57 AM »

3-0, still rolling. Kemba gets his rest day. Resting Rose for number four is also a good idea.

Taj Gibson is a fucking gem.
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Aamir Simms, the undrafted 6'8" forward out of Clemson got some serious burn before he had to leave the game after knocking knees with a Piston.  He played some serious D.
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