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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21450 on: November 30, 2021, 01:38:14 PM »
After how his year fell apart last season, getting paid to workout and recover in his home town for a season to come back as a better built player on a cheap expiring deal next year for a chance to show the league what the next chapter can look like does not seem like a bad place for Kemba to be.

If there is interest, we could trade him alone or in a package now or later. He might even resign with us if it makes sense and come back and play with the guy he was traded for. You never know.

I think Thibs can get the most out of Burks, especially if he can keep his turnovers down as he steps in to his new role.
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« Reply #21451 on: November 30, 2021, 02:07:33 PM »
For an organization that has been lacking in stability the only change between last year and this is elevating Burks, adding Fournier with cap space, and drafting the rookies while losing Bullock and Payton to free agency.  The new additions have already made their presence felt.

The season started with 40% of the starting lineup shaken up and even that stays stable as Burks and Fournier are the new faces in the starting lineup.

Burks and Fournier as an upgrade over Payton and Bullock.  And a restocked bench with young hungry defensive scrappers and shooters. 

The time to buy Knicks stock is now.
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« Reply #21452 on: November 30, 2021, 02:13:33 PM »
I agree - if the cashout point is not TITLE based.

Need that ALPHA guy.
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« Reply #21453 on: November 30, 2021, 02:18:12 PM »
Thibs bet is two-fold. 1. this is going to get Randle going, and 2. the defense is going to become a lot better.

He is right on the second front. So far this season, without Walker on the court, New York has allowed just over 100 points per 100 possessions, which is an elite number. Another encouraging stat, in 354 possessions of Julius Randle and RJ Barrett without Kemba, the Knicks have a positive 10.7 net rating.  Interesting corollary, with Jules and RJ but no Walker or Mitch, that number goes up to plus 17.0 in 225 possessions.
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« Reply #21454 on: November 30, 2021, 02:24:56 PM »


It seems that once Walker and Barrett fell off a cliff individually, they took New Yorks offense into the canyon with them. Kemba is now out of the picture, and Burks has been one of the best shooters in basketball for a month now. If RJ can start hitting shots like he was to start the year, all will be right in the world.
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« Reply #21455 on: November 30, 2021, 03:02:08 PM »
Barrett started - first 4 games - 18 for 46, 6-23 from 3

Had 3 good games - 29/52, 12/19

And is .333, .250 over last 13.

Has shot 50% in 5 of 20 games
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« Reply #21456 on: November 30, 2021, 03:03:10 PM »
So...

do we see OBI play some 3?
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« Reply #21457 on: November 30, 2021, 03:16:08 PM »
Tommy Beer: Knicks are listing the following players as questionable for Nyets tonight

Mitchell Robinson
RJ Barrett
Nerlens Noel
Taj Gibson
Derrick Rose
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« Reply #21458 on: November 30, 2021, 03:16:42 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on November 30, 2021, 03:03:10 PM
So...

do we see OBI play some 3?

I would guess that Thibs has seen it in practice and Obi hasn't been able to guard the position or else we'd have seen it already.
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« Reply #21459 on: November 30, 2021, 03:19:17 PM »
Why?  Burks and Barrett played every game

Now Burks is a 1
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« Reply #21460 on: November 30, 2021, 03:29:28 PM »
Mitchell and RJ with Non-Coivd related illness
Nerlens [knee]
Taj [Groin]
Rose [Ankle]

Leaving us with...

C-PF: Randle, Toppin, Sims
SF-PF: Knox
SG-SF: Fournier, Grimes, Selden
PG-SG: Burks, IQ, McBride, Walker

Interesting. 

Opportunity knicks for Kevin Knox at SF...

Also, might the Knicks bring up 6'11 PF Luka Samanic from Westchester for a look see? 

He is on a two-way contract. 

Might Thibs HAVE TO give Walker some minutes, or does Miles McBride finally get some actual game time burn? 
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« Reply #21461 on: November 30, 2021, 03:34:36 PM »
I think the team has enough to compete/win even with all the injuries.   I predict that either IQ or Quentin Grimes or both have big scoring games.
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« Reply #21462 on: November 30, 2021, 03:41:51 PM »
First day new contracts can be traded.

Of course does not preclude nonsensical projections, such as Houston emerging as a trading partner for the Knicks. 

Wall

COUGH

Nevermind that Wall is every bit as gimpy as  Kemba.

$44,310,840  $47,366,760

We'd have to trade half our roster. 

Houston/Philly?

Wall & Wood and Draft Assets

For

Simmons
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« Reply #21463 on: November 30, 2021, 04:53:28 PM »
Might Thibs HAVE TO give Walker some minutes, or does Miles McBride finally get some actual game time burn?


Walker will not be a bench player, per Thibs
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« Reply #21464 on: November 30, 2021, 05:10:22 PM »
Quote from: Kam on November 30, 2021, 03:34:36 PM
I think the team has enough to compete/win even with all the injuries.   I predict that either IQ or Quentin Grimes or both have big scoring games.

Thibs mentioned "the rotation we had in Atlanta game" as a distinct positive.

5 out offense could be on tap tonight
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