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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21465 on: November 30, 2021, 05:14:56 PM »


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In light of Thibs removing Kemba Walker from his rotation, sources say three teams have already reached out to the #Knicks inquiring about a potential trade for Walker.
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« Reply #21466 on: November 30, 2021, 05:18:49 PM »

Choice of announcers tonight

Kevin Harlan and Reggie Miller - TNT

YES does not have the game
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21467 on: November 30, 2021, 05:20:26 PM »


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In light of Thibs removing Kemba Walker from his rotation, sources say three teams have already reached out to the #Knicks inquiring about a potential trade for Walker.

I wonder why
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« Reply #21468 on: November 30, 2021, 05:34:07 PM »


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In light of Thibs removing Kemba Walker from his rotation, sources say three teams have already reached out to the #Knicks inquiring about a potential trade for Walker.

I wonder why

Maybe the Lakers want to add to their 2015 All Star team.
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« Reply #21469 on: November 30, 2021, 06:46:48 PM »


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In light of Thibs removing Kemba Walker from his rotation, sources say three teams have already reached out to the #Knicks inquiring about a potential trade for Walker.

Nothing jumps until December 15. 

Hey, maybe the Nets make an offer. 

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« Reply #21470 on: November 30, 2021, 07:39:51 PM »

All the players reported out?

All are in. 
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« Reply #21471 on: November 30, 2021, 09:22:31 PM »

Damn

One Hell Of A Game. 
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« Reply #21472 on: November 30, 2021, 09:31:00 PM »

6 or 7 gamer in May
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« Reply #21473 on: November 30, 2021, 09:32:39 PM »

Randle
Obi
Burks
IQ
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21474 on: November 30, 2021, 09:51:49 PM »

Fournier for OBI - need a 3.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21475 on: November 30, 2021, 09:52:14 PM »

Fuckin MONEY!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21476 on: November 30, 2021, 09:56:44 PM »

Mitch the foul machine needed to not be out there in the end.

Ouch.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21477 on: November 30, 2021, 10:22:38 PM »

Mitch did not foul there at the end and Harden got away with a walk the possession prior.

KD and Harden are already seeing massive returns from their donations to the referees benevolent fund. Randle should match or exceed their gift, now that he has gotten a bag.

Coming out of halftime was still a problem, but there is a lot to work with here.
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« Reply #21478 on: November 30, 2021, 10:26:38 PM »

So Burks had a huge game

And was -11

Silly stat
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« Reply #21479 on: December 01, 2021, 06:34:39 AM »

Sure ... if you don't understand it.

First off +/- is a team stat or more accurately a 5-man unit stat.
It isn't a great single game or single player stat, though sometimes it does reveal who was the weak link.  In the aggregate and over enough games (and seasons) it does provide useful info on individual players.

In this game, Burks -11 reflects the fact that our core starters (note that Randle and Mitch had a similar +/-) were bested by BKY's; and since we only lost by 2, our bench strongly outplayed theirs.  Gee, funny how the silly stat reflects what happened in the game.


I tend to think of +/- as partially underscoring who was/wasn't playing D.  But more importantly, players who make underappreciated contributions such as screen setting, hockey assists, deflecting the ball and making other hustle plays, who usually are rewarded by +/-, since such non-boxscore stats impact winning.

For years on GS, Iguodala has been the king of no-stat, high +/- games.
Where his conventional counting stats are often negligible but his contributions to outscoring the other team is significant.  Of course it helps to have all-star teammates.  As +/- remains fundamentally a unit stat, from which individual contribution to winning can be parsed.


Grimes -12 in 3 mins is unfortunate, but he came in and BKY went on a 10-0 run, Of course Grimes isn't responsible for that early 3Q Nets run, but if I were the Knix coaching staff, I'd be looking at that stretch and the unit we had and the mistakes we made.  Cause that was a key part of the L.  The first bucket being KD going right at Grimey and shooting an easy 6' over him. Followed by Randle jacking a heavily contested 20' over Durant.  Then a very casual turnover/pass from Burks.  Then Fournier dribbling nowhere and throwing a poor pass to Mitch, stolen by BKY.
Gee, might be good to have a PG out there ...
Then Mitch stood by while harden rammed down an O-board.
So not surprising that Burks, Randle and Mitch had circa -10's for the game.  All  culprits in the BKY 3Q 10-0 run.

Or if that isn't helpful just go with your gut that the thing you don't understand is stupid, ignorance is strength, and you're smarter than the rest.
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