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« Reply #21810 on: December 19, 2021, 12:16:39 AM »

GORDON ain't coming.
Book it.


heh

And he keeps on striking. A-fin-mazin!!!

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21811 on: December 19, 2021, 07:28:06 AM »

Quite a 3Q.
BOS suffers from the same problem as the Knix, a lack of starting PG, so it gets ugly for stretches when things go off the rails.  Rather quiet game from Smart.  3 FG's, no FT's, 1 rebound.  Knix just 3 points from the suddenly non-existent bench.

FourEva looking pretty damn good when he drives and stays focused for more than a quarter or the first half.  Kemba can play.  Knix look better with a genuine ballhandler/ballmover.  Who knew?  Perhaps NYK record would be significantly better if Thibs hadn't benched Walker needlessly.  2 more W's and the Knickers would be at .500.

Tatum sure is up for pounding the ball and settling for long jacks.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21813 on: December 19, 2021, 10:07:53 AM »

FourEva looking pretty damn good when he drives and stays focused for more than a quarter or the first half.  Kemba can play.  Knix look better with a genuine ballhandler, ballmover.  Who knew? Perhaps NYK record would be significantly better if Thibs hadn't benched Walker needlessly.  2 more Ws and the Knickers would be at .500.



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« Reply #21814 on: December 19, 2021, 01:59:25 PM »

Good news is the guys I want gone may have shown some value despite their contributions to an avoidable loss. Just hope some GM somewhere missed the fourth quarter.



The NBA Season is THIS CLOSE to shutting down, and Facil is focused on trades. 

Ah SO....
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21815 on: December 19, 2021, 02:55:29 PM »

Quite a 3Q.
BOS suffers from the same problem as the Knix, a lack of starting PG, so it gets ugly for stretches when things go off the rails. 

Schroder is the starter most games

Is said to be headed for a deal - but I am not so sure.
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« Reply #21816 on: December 19, 2021, 05:22:32 PM »

So, let me see if I understand. 

The Knicks are floundering because, ostensibly, based on one's point of view, we have made some miscalculations with veterans. 

Ergo, the solution is to cash them in ON OTHER VETERANS. 

Never you mind that the one consistent bright spot in the Knicks' season, again, open to debate, has been the play of players drafted in 2021, 2020, 2019 and 2018. 

And with all due respect to 6'3" Eric Gordon, who is indeed a dawg [Phool could have signed him as a FA, but instead, opted to sign Courtney Lee, three years older, who is no longer in the league], following this path forward down the rabbit hole of logic, better to take on a big contract with two years guaranteed on a 33 year old player, than to empower QUENTIN GRIMES, who has already showed tangible signs of being a dawg himself, on both sides of the ball, is 21 years old, a robust 6'5" and shooting .469% from three, on an admittedly very small sample size. 

But the grand jury has come back with an indictment of Evan Fournier, never you mind Thibs urging patience, and so we enter THE GRASS IS ALWAYS GREENER ZONE, and begin reshuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. 



Be that as it may, as a PP in good standing, I must defer to my worthy constituents, and co-sign veterans on the back end of their careers, as the NEXT MEN UP in putative pursuit of an early playoff exit, as I ride into the sunset. 



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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21817 on: December 19, 2021, 07:42:26 PM »

Ergo, the solution is to cash them in ON OTHER VETERANS.


uh...

what?

Draft picks and matching contracts net us an improvement.
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« Reply #21818 on: December 19, 2021, 10:20:05 PM »

Ergo, the solution is to cash them in ON OTHER VETERANS.


uh...

what?

Draft picks and matching contracts net us an improvement.

What part of Chip-s post do not you understand?

Oh, wait, you do not understand ANY PART OF IT.

It aint difficult, but you are so, so f-in DUMB!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21819 on: December 19, 2021, 11:48:54 PM »

I'd rather have Fournier than Gordon.
Unless you think we need another vet voice/leader.
But even to what end?  We have Rose & Taj.  Is a vet leader going to get this team anywhere?

I'd rather try to light a fire under Fournier.  And play Grimey.
Maybe just play FourEva 1st halves and 20 mins a night until he stops tuning out.
To some extent, Thibs was already doing that.

A team like Minny could use another vet presence.  Such as a Gordon type.
Right now they have Pa Bev pushing the yutes and showing what hard work looks like.
Could use one more oldhead to steady and focus things.
Though with Edwards in place, they'd be better off adding an F (like a Covington type).
(Jimmy Butler and Taj couldn't get the Minny yute to focus and play D, so not sure who you could add to kick them in gear -- Pa Bev was a good start).
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21820 on: December 20, 2021, 12:07:26 AM »

Any Knick trade should be for a starting level PG or a 3&D switchable F.

Do we make a play for Brunson?
What would DAL want?  Mitch, maybe Fournier.  Steady vet Rose (plus) for yuteful PG Brunson?  Mitch & Rose for Brunson & flotsam?  Noel & Rose = Brunson and jetsam.

Siakim?
TOR has OG, Barnes and Boucher.  And Siakim is expensive.
Siakim would fit the Knix well.

Covington
Seems to have lost a step on-ball defending, but still a good help defender.

Just off the top of my head.
I'll have to check rosters (and contracts).
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21821 on: December 20, 2021, 12:19:27 AM »

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for all his defensive shortcomings, Knicks are now 10-9 with Walker in the lineup and 3-8 without him. Evan Fournier, who was also terrific against the Celtics, is almost equally problematic as a defender, and overall the defense got worse after Walker's benching.
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Re: So, so dumb
« Reply #21823 on: December 20, 2021, 09:14:56 AM »

Ergo, the solution is to cash them in ON OTHER VETERANS.


uh...

what?

Draft picks and matching contracts net us an improvement.

What part of Chip-s post do not you understand?

Oh, wait, you do not understand ANY PART OF IT.

It aint difficult, but you are so, so f-in DUMB!
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Try responding to the final sentence rather than being butthurt by a reply not directed at you

Might make for decent conversation if you can handle that.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #21824 on: December 20, 2021, 10:10:39 AM »

Before Kemba was benched earlier this season I said that Randle must give Kemba the keys to the offense.  Thibs didn't see it that way.   Thibs was wrong.

By pretty much any metric, Randle has been one of the worst high usage players in the NBA, while Walker (again, when he has had the chance to run the show) has been one of the best.

https://knicksfilmschool.substack.com/p/new-solutions-bigger-problems
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