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Re: Bears Repeating
« Reply #2190 on: November 23, 2018, 03:18:18 PM »

Again, at the risk of repeating myself. 

I just love that picture of Mudiay and Ntilinka exulting in Burke's success. 

Says it all. 

Competition yielding individual growth, and joy for a team mate and the greater good, not jealousy. 

TEAM FIRST. 

Happy that Mudiay is finding confidence in his jumper. 

And praying for Frank at add another inch or two to his frame and that pterodactyl wingspan. 

Hope you had a peaceful day with your family, Kiid.

Thanks, bro

Yeah.  It was cool.

Had the hoops night Wednesday, including Duke-Zags, which I nailed - football day yesterday - and of course time with la familia.

Today its some Black Friday (read:  kids take my money) and high school football.  Some poker tonight.  Great week and still the weekend to play with.

Life is good.  Hope you had a great day yourself.

(Maybe Bank can confirm how many minutes Frank was checking Jayson)

Sorry kid I can't confirm French Frank's defensive contribution-I put the game on mid 2nd qtr, Celts were already down about 15 and within minutes were down 26. Only thing I really checked at the half was the Celts 3s, and they were 1 for 13. Don't win a whole lotta games hitting 7%. So garbage time kicked in early. I poured myself a double, probably a triple, and didn't pay close attention until the game got close with a few minutes left.

But I can find out FF's #s if its important.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2191 on: November 23, 2018, 04:31:02 PM »

While it hasn’t generated the kind of chemistry and discipline to get regular wins yet, Fizz seems to have the young vets performing, at least in the past week or two, at or beyond career bests. He is also getting more focused and impactful play from the youngins. He moved everyone in that 10 man rotation through the starting lineup, and while our pups cycled back out the experience gave them firsthand knowledge of what they will have to do to take and hold that job. You see it in the performances of Trier, Frank, Mitch, and Knox over the last couple of games. It will be interesting to see what becomes of Mario. Can he rise to par? If so, in what capacity?

I think we can stay as close as 4 to 6 spots off the bottom record while still competing and improving, especially if KP stays under wraps into the spring. It’s low odds Zion territory, but it’s still a neighborhood where a team can find seriously helpful talent.

Most importantly, if we keep things up, we’ll be fun to watch all season.

I believe Fizz would like Mario to function as a sixth man/instant offense plug-in at SF & PF. 

So far...seems to be overthinking things...pressing...trying to PROVE he deserved the shot Perry gave him. 

Knick on wood.  I am hoping he finds his BURKE Moment, wherein he concludes, THIS IS WHO I AM, a tiger cannot change its stripes. 

We shall see.  We are not even into December yet.  Looking at his post-All-Star break highlights with the Magic from last season is tantalizing. 

As for FIZZ and his rotations...

He is genuinely trying to give everyone a look, a shot, to build their confidence (and team spirit) by showing confidence in them. 

Remember how many big minutes Baker got. 

Dotson was nailed to the pine, then got showcased.  Now sitting and waiting....knowing his time will come again. 

Likewise Burke.  Who seems to be thriving in coming off the bench with the second unit, and finishing off with the best five at fourth quarter crunch time. 

Not so much that he has players on a yo-yo, as media pundits such as Berman suggests, as he is still sorting out what he has, which combos work, and when to pull the trigger; finding a balance between offensive/defensive lineup balances. 

EVERYONE has been up and down, but Burke's emergence is really a testament to the confidence and trust Fizz is working to instill.

Or as Padre Riles liked to put it, "I know you're ready, but are you prepared."

Likewise, while I recognize the good-humored snark in Don Carlos' desire for lots of close losses, my attitude about the lottery is that the draft will take care of itself. 

We didn't get Towns, and ended up with Porzingis. 

We didn't get Doncic, and ended up with Knox. 

We didn't get Bomba and ended up with Robinson. 

I would offer up my mother to Hamas for the opportunity to draft Zion (luckily, she is dead, and thus, very open-minded about such a transaction), but hey, look at what Philly did with multiple lottery picks.  Simmons and Embid?  Winners, who missed out on one and two seasons respectively.  Elsewise?  Noels...Okafor...Fultz...

NOTHING IS WRITTEN. 
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Re: Lotto
« Reply #2192 on: November 23, 2018, 06:01:54 PM »

Chip, missing out on KAT and Doncic was missing out on two stars, KP consolation prize notwithstanding. I’m not buying what you selling.

GO KNICKS, PLAY HARD, LOSE TIGHT!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2193 on: November 23, 2018, 06:57:57 PM »

I think Fizz would prefer to start Mitch and have Kanter rampage against 2nd units.  But Mitch was getting into early foul trouble.  hence the flip.

This is a development year, so Mario will get ops/reps.  But since Knox returned, there's less time for Mario.  Of course, with lance out, things are fairly open for Mario.

One interesting development this year is how vets have been removed from the equation.  Courtly is either injured or forgotten.  Maybe we'll showcase him for a trade later.  Noah was sent packing (with suitcases full of money).  Lance had minor surgery that likely could have waited if we were a playoff team.  Basically Kant and Tim, young vets at 26, have graduated to old vets.

Edit: I didn't realize Trey Burke just turned 26 two weeks ago.
Born in 1992, same year as Tim and Kant.

Only 167 minutes this season have gone to a Knick over age 26.
And that's all Lance.
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Re: Post Script
« Reply #2194 on: November 23, 2018, 08:17:16 PM »


Ntilkina hit a Trey Burke midrange jumper, and had two really impressive penetration-finishes. 


I did a double-take when i saw that shot. It was pure Burke.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2195 on: November 23, 2018, 09:45:50 PM »

Dang, forgot about the Knick game.

Was watching Hou@DET and Cha@OKC.
Some undrafted guy Deonte Burton provided OKC with lots of 2nd half energy.  Kemba looked super-confident and great 1st half, then looked beat late 2Q and started playing terrible.  A real odd change.
 
Tuned in with 7 minutes left Knix down 7 or 8.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2196 on: November 23, 2018, 09:48:16 PM »

Knix with 21 assists.
Mud suddenly taking over the 4Q.

Never liked Ian Clark -- mistake player.

Knix win with Mud & Trier.
NOPe lost their mojo.
KNix were playing harder.
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« Reply #2197 on: November 23, 2018, 10:07:55 PM »

This was fun.

Maybe I should abandon the beautiful tank and become a full fledged POSITIVE PUSSY.

What’s a Knicks fan to do?

Playoffs anybody???
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Re: Little things
« Reply #2198 on: November 23, 2018, 10:08:06 PM »

Knicks leaders:

Deflections - THJr/Meech (Dot and Mudiay close)
Loose balls recovered - THJr (Dot and Kanter close)
Screen assists - Kanter (Vonleh and Meech close, nobody else though)
Charges - THJr (nobody close)
Contested shots - Meech! (Kanter and Vonleh very close, THJr not far off)
Pts off turnovers - THJr (a bit back are Burke and Kanter)
2nd chance points - Kanter (nobody close)
Opponent points off turnovers (not a good thing) - THJr (Dot right behind him)
Opponent points in the paint - THJr
% pts assisted - Lance (Knox right there)
% pts unassisted - Burke
Usage - THJr
Opp FG% - Dot (Vonleh and Franc right there)
Opp turnovers - Franc (Vonleh and THJr kinda close)
+/- : Knox! (Franc and THJr a bit back)
Drives - Burke (THJr and IsoZo follow)
Box Outs - Kanter (Vonleh and Lance are quite a ways back, and the team rebounds poorly off of Vonleh and Meech box outs)
Average running speed - Lance (Mudiay right behind him)
eFG% on catch and shoot - IsoZo, by a mile (do not let Kanter shoot catch and shoot jumpers)
eFG% on pull up jumpers - Mudiay (THJr right behind him, Burke a bit farther back)

The moral of this story: Timmy is not providing empty stats, he's a real team leader. Kanter, his atrociously weak defensive help aside, provides more value than many believe he does. Vonleh is putting in work. Burke provides something very unique to the team. All the rookie contract kids are a ways behind these guys in terms of contributing today, much as we are excited by them and their upside.

A lot of Kanter's 2nd chance points are a direct result of him missing the first chance.
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Re: Kanter & Robinson
« Reply #2199 on: November 23, 2018, 10:12:19 PM »


And sorry Don Carlos but I am rooting for wins.  Given that Cleveland is in TOTAL TANK MODE, our shot at Zion seems, for practical reasons, remote.  ]

Familiarize yourself with the odds.  The bottom 4 have the same shot.

http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2200 on: November 23, 2018, 10:17:20 PM »

By the way, Wiz were 2-9.

4-4 when Dwight plays more than 8 minutes.

Missing Gortat.

Heh.
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Re: Little things
« Reply #2201 on: November 23, 2018, 10:18:03 PM »

Knicks leaders:

Deflections - THJr/Meech (Dot and Mudiay close)
Loose balls recovered - THJr (Dot and Kanter close)
Screen assists - Kanter (Vonleh and Meech close, nobody else though)
Charges - THJr (nobody close)
Contested shots - Meech! (Kanter and Vonleh very close, THJr not far off)
Pts off turnovers - THJr (a bit back are Burke and Kanter)
2nd chance points - Kanter (nobody close)
Opponent points off turnovers (not a good thing) - THJr (Dot right behind him)
Opponent points in the paint - THJr
% pts assisted - Lance (Knox right there)
% pts unassisted - Burke
Usage - THJr
Opp FG% - Dot (Vonleh and Franc right there)
Opp turnovers - Franc (Vonleh and THJr kinda close)
+/- : Knox! (Franc and THJr a bit back)
Drives - Burke (THJr and IsoZo follow)
Box Outs - Kanter (Vonleh and Lance are quite a ways back, and the team rebounds poorly off of Vonleh and Meech box outs)
Average running speed - Lance (Mudiay right behind him)
eFG% on catch and shoot - IsoZo, by a mile (do not let Kanter shoot catch and shoot jumpers)
eFG% on pull up jumpers - Mudiay (THJr right behind him, Burke a bit farther back)

The moral of this story: Timmy is not providing empty stats, he's a real team leader. Kanter, his atrociously weak defensive help aside, provides more value than many believe he does. Vonleh is putting in work. Burke provides something very unique to the team. All the rookie contract kids are a ways behind these guys in terms of contributing today, much as we are excited by them and their upside.

A lot of Kanter's 2nd chance points are a direct result of him missing the first chance.

Heh.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #2202 on: November 23, 2018, 10:21:27 PM »

Fun game for sure, but kinda think we don't take it if MitchRob doesn't go full-on Zaza Pachulia. He better get over that if he wants to keep his teeth. Somebody's gonna get real mad sooner or later.
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Do you guys remember Kurt Thomas
« Reply #2203 on: November 23, 2018, 10:21:30 PM »

Kurt could get a low double-double AND ALSO be a real asset on defense.

Since then we've had a bunch of double-double guys who are just turnstyles.

Yeah, you can stuff your stats if you increase pace and trade baskets.
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« Reply #2204 on: November 23, 2018, 10:29:37 PM »

The tank may have misfired this week, but i'm not upset. It's always worth it to stick more pain to the Celtics, and dropping them to 9-9 was fun.  And nobody expected a full season without a winning streak.  Currently at 2.  Nice to beat another good team while we're at it.

PS:  I fully expect the tank to be rolling down Beale street Sunday night
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