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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24600 on: August 15, 2022, 05:37:17 PM »
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keeping Grimes AND IQ  is not a bad thing at all.  Backup plans in case Rose doesnt make it full season. 

Reddish is a throwaway for me - not saying he wont play well elsewhere.

Now....

OBI's future is what we are surrendering.  The picks do not bother me, though I would try to keep one of the 2 for next year.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24601 on: August 15, 2022, 05:55:29 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on August 15, 2022, 05:37:17 PM
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keeping Grimes AND IQ  is not a bad thing at all.  Backup plans in case Rose doesnt make it full season. 

Reddish is a throwaway for me - not saying he wont play well elsewhere.

Now....

OBI's future is what we are surrendering.  The picks do not bother me, though I would try to keep one of the 2 for next year.

Yeah, I agree with this. I don't have the investment in Reddish...and neither yet do the Knicks. And losing Fournier can expedite Grime's development.

Obi is where it hurts. But whenever you trade for a star, you've got to give up something that hurts.

FWIW, I think Utah and their fans would love Obi. Make the losing sting a little less. And he might get a lot more playing time out there.

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« Reply #24602 on: August 15, 2022, 08:33:32 PM »
I hope Ainge gets an offer he likes better from elsewhere than what we are willing to give up.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24603 on: August 15, 2022, 09:16:42 PM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on August 15, 2022, 08:33:32 PM
I hope Ainge gets an offer he likes better from elsewhere than what we are willing to give up.

I'm not sold on the idea that they even trade Mitchell. 

CLEARLY, Ainge is willing to sell him for a King's Ransom, and Gobert is the template. 

But Mitchell is what, 26, and signed for three more years?

Latest poop has the Jazz trying to pull off a sign and trade with the Cavs for Sexton, to team him WITH Mitchell, which makes more sense. 

Don't think they could palm off Conley on the Cavs, which is in the range Sexton wants to be paid, at 22 million.  Unless of course Ainge is willing to pony up multiple #1 picks, and see how he likes it to be on the receiving end.  An insane contract they gave Conley on the tail end of a fine, and overpaid career. 

Likewise, Bogdonavich on and ending at $19.5 and some draft capital could probably get it done. 

Mitchell, Conley, Sexton, Clarkson, Alexander-Walker Beverley would be a pretty stacked set of failitators and wings. 

Anyway, just spitballing, because Ainge's expectations of a Knicks deal, and fans projections, are delusional. 

Sometimes the best move is NO MOVE AT ALL. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24604 on: August 15, 2022, 09:30:33 PM »
Cavs would take Clarkson back.

Good thought, this deal.  Sexton has another gear to get to.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24605 on: August 15, 2022, 09:31:45 PM »
What would Cavs give to end up with Mitchell/Garland?
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« Reply #24606 on: August 15, 2022, 09:34:43 PM »
Just some workout tapes, and the level of competition is nothing to get keyed up about, but Cam is looking healthy and focused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmHMCpcMv48
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24607 on: August 16, 2022, 09:18:59 AM »
Just a thought for a slow time -

if so high on Reddish and with deals for the "we are not sure how much $$ he is worth" Barrett available, why wouldnt we have just given Cam the THREE spot and dealt RJ ahead of the contract mess?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24608 on: August 16, 2022, 10:59:19 AM »
Knicks slapped in face - will open the season on Day Two -and on the road (in Memphis 10/19)

Beating Ja would be a great way to set the season ablaze.
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« Reply #24609 on: August 16, 2022, 12:46:51 PM »
RJ is a shooting guard. Cam is a small forward. Both are talented and capable players. There is no mess.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24610 on: August 16, 2022, 12:51:50 PM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on August 16, 2022, 10:59:19 AM
Knicks slapped in face - will open the season on Day Two -and on the road (in Memphis 10/19)

Beating Ja would be a great way to set the season ablaze.

Remember well the 2006 season opener in Memphis. Helluva game, multi-overtime thriller, though did not lead to follow through for the season.
Isiah's debut as coach, lol. Also Kyle Lowry's NBA debut - looked great, still can't believe we passed on both him and Rondo for Balkman, ouch!

https://www.espn.com/nba/recap/_/gameId/261101029
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24611 on: August 16, 2022, 01:00:57 PM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on August 16, 2022, 12:46:51 PM
RJ is a shooting guard. Cam is a small forward. Both are talented and capable players. There is no mess.

Cam is a BIG Wing, capable of coverage at the 2-3-1.  He has many areas for potential improvement, such as rebounding, better 3 point consistency, and getting to the FT Line more often considering he is an excellent FT SHOOTER.  But he is a GOOD DEFENDER, and that is his point of entry into rotation minutes.

RJ, as well as Fournier AND Grimes, are also BIG WINGS, checking in at 6'6", 6'7" and 6'5" respectively. 

Competition between Reddish, Barrett, Fournier and Grimes for minutes next to Brunson will be a big part of training camp.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24612 on: August 16, 2022, 01:04:09 PM »
How then does competition between Rose, Quickley and McBride play out for the 16-20 potential minutes behind or abreast of Brunson?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24613 on: August 16, 2022, 01:46:39 PM »
Quote from: facilitatorn on August 16, 2022, 12:46:51 PM
RJ is a shooting guard.

 

No, not really.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #24614 on: August 16, 2022, 02:02:12 PM »
Guard/small forward minutes

Brunson 30
Barrett 34
Rose  22
Quickley  12-14
Fournier 20-26 (start to season, shooting stroke-dependent)
Grimes 20-24
Reddish 0
McBride  0

last 2 get some time when any of the other 6 are out a game.
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