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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[Kam]

I LOVE Brunson's game.

A more refined Charlie Ward

A winner.

And tough.

Perfect for New York, no?

Play of the game:

That the play starts off with seven footer Mo Bamba trying and failing to post up human fire hydrant Jalen Brunson is the icing on the cake.

And what a pass by Toppin.



Moments like this convince you that we're only getting a glimpse into his hoops intellect and awareness.

[chipstern]

Jalen is impactful.

Obviously we have no superstars since we whiffed on Mitchell by failing to offload most of our second unit yute and six #1 picks.

God forbid that for once the Knicks grow their own.

lmao..this is such nonsense mr. potato head. By all accounts the offer we wouldn't meet was Barrett + Quickley + 3 unprotected.

Far from leaving the shelf bare, it would have left our garden robustly well-stocked: Grimes, Obi, Reddish, Deuce, Mitch, Jericho...
And all our vets...plus 3 first rounders from others, plus our own picks every other year. It's called sitting pretty.

Empty post-apocalyptic supermarket? Nope - try talk of the league.

I'm enjoying our present show just fine, but quit making up trash to hash.

By ALL Accounts?

Says

U

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[kidcarter8]

I like what the Magic are building.

Just kept hanging in there, even when we applied the defensive screws in the second half.

And when they made a run and closed to what, six, Jalen with the bucket plus the AND + 1

Leadership.

Meanwhile, Orlando

Carter, Bamba, Wagner
Banchero, Bol
Wagner, Isaac

Bol Bol put on a show.

Damn

Has had a long road to last night, overcoming injuries, experience baby steps.  Is this year four?  Denver gave up on him.   Prescient of Magic to take a flyer on him.  Looks like they've got themselves a unicorn.

Banchero makes ORL a much better team

This is why if you dont have a top 5 pick you try to get one.

[kidcarter8]

Box score it up....

Always like to look at points vs shots attempted

The good -

Banchero   21 on 13
Bol     19 on 10
Carter    17 on 10

Mitch   14 on 7
Toppin    10 on 6
Julius     25 on 19
Jalen     21 on 16
FunCam    7 on 4  (underutiized)


The bad.......


Anthony   14 on 18
Wagner     14 on 15

Barrett    20 on 19
Fournier   8 on 8



Floor game madness (assists, steals, blocks) ......

Banchero just 4 total in 33 minutes (must improve this)
Wagner    5 in 36
Anthony     5 in 29
Bol's 4 blk in 20 the only real positive

NY...........

As bad as he shot, QUICKLEY was tops,  9 in 23 minutes
Jalen     8 in 33

The bad.....

Hartenstein    1 in 19
Evan     2 in 27
RJ   1 in 37.

[kidcarter8]

lmao..this is such nonsense mr. potato head. By all accounts the offer we wouldn't meet was Barrett + Quickley + 3 unprotected.


Certainly depends on who you blieve.   NY media did a nice job shielding Leon.  Never quite sure how many picks in these scenarios Ainge needed.

Moving forward though - I guess if you liked that deal (I would have been fine with it but preferred something with Grimes where we could keep then possibly deal RJ later), the tradeoff is Barrett's current new contract cash vs what we were paying into the bank account of D Mitch.   Bears watching if we want to keep analyzing this deal.  I am sure Chip will alert us when a draft pick we kept out of the deal (whether true or not) does fairly well here or is moves for something even (in his mind) better.. He's good at that shizz.
   

[facilitatorn]

Whos report on what deal when are we believing exactly?

There were so many different ones reported out over the weeks of wrangling. Some I liked better than others.

[facilitatorn]

Utah owes a good deal of its hot start to the haul it got from Cleveland.

I do not see Cleveland being much farther along than the Jazz were when they had Mitchell. This is all before the exchange of draft picks.

[lesterluv]

I think "not much farther along than the Jazz were" would be an extremely acceptable place for the Cavs to be at this stage. They didn't make the playoffs last year.

With very significant upside still likely for Garland, Mobley, and yes, Donovan Mitchell, among others; numerous years of prime ahead for still more.

And they're really fun to watch, isn't that what it's ultimately about?

* If it's all about a title shot, which is certainly not precluded for them anyway, I've damn sure wasted my last few decades.

** As for the trade, several of the most reputable reports after our deal went south had the desired offer from Ainge pegged along the way I outlined it earlier. But who really the fuck knows. I expect it would also have, along the lines of the final Cavs deal, included some pick swaps. Not terribly pertinent to me. Those swaps being most dangerous for single superstar dependent or aging core teams. Neither applicable to us. Anyway ...wrtfk. Done and dusted.

*** Rumor has it that Bo's dying wish was to send that same package to the Heat for the earthly remains of Kyle Lowry.

[lesterluv]

Speaking of fun to watch, the Pelicans WITHOUT BI and ZW are putting on a show!

[kidcarter8]

Zion's out already?

Heard Kawhi is missing his second game.

Insanity.

[kidcarter8]

Utah owes a good deal of its hot start to the haul it got from Cleveland.

I do not see Cleveland being much farther along than the Jazz were when they had Mitchell. This is all before the exchange of draft picks.

I remind you

ITS ABOUT GATHERING ASSETS

(though maybe there is some "Cle. didnt know what to do with the white guy Markaanen" to it)

[kidcarter8]

Speaking of fun to watch, the Pelicans WITHOUT BI and ZW are putting on a show!

Dyson Daniels playing a role.  Nice.

[Kam]

The main issue I see with the starters is Randle needing to make the adjustment to Kemba.    Even though Payton was the starter last year, Randle really ran the offense. 

Take a look at Randle's amount of dribbles per touch this season.  Given a better PG this year and he is still dribbling the same amount.  More in fact.  As Randle's answer is always play harder.  Well this time he needs to play smarter.  He needs to trust Kemba with the ball and go back to less ISO, more finding ways to score without being the black hole on offense he sometimes is.


2017-18, LAL: 16.1 points in 26.7 mpg, 51.1 touches/gm, 1.35 dribbles per touch

2018-19, NOP: 21.4 points in 30.6 mpg, 59.5 touches/gm, 1.80 dribbles per touch

2019-20, NYK: 19.5 points in 32.5 mpg, 68.8 touches/gm, 1.67 dribbles per touch

2020-21, NYK: 24.1 points in 37.6 mpg, 83.6 touches/gm, 2.27 dribbles per touch

2021-22, NYK: 21.0 points in 35.6 mpg, 75.6 touches/gm, 2.28 dribbles per touch

2022-2023, NYK:  1.48 dribbles per touch (and 2.8 minutes per game with the ball in his hands.)

Julius has (thus far) answered the questions about him deferring to a "true PG" and shut up the critics who wanted to trade him (hi there!)

Keep up the good work Julius!

[elephant]

Dribbles per touch. I didn't even know they kept that stat. A great barometer.

Just 3 games of course, but this is awesome.

[lesterluv]

it's early on, but eye test shows the same and we approve!