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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[elephant]

Reddish never got the defensive rotations. For the Knicks of today that is job one.

Are you sure this is true?

I wasn't a Reddish fanboy. Warmed to him this year for his play. Didn't see him as a defensive liability, but maybe I wasn't looking close enough.

[elephant]

And it has made trade prospects absurd. If you trade Reddish, who are we getting with more skills and potential than he has? And where will they play? In short what are the Knicks looking for?


Obviously looking to use Cam and his salary in a package deal for a top player.  If they just wanted to deal him he would be gone to  LA already for a couple second rounders.

Then that begs the question. What top player do they have in mind?

[chipstern]

You apparently have some "Well Known" information that the rest of us are not privy to.

What is the alleged very reasonable deal Leon turned down?

[lesterluv]

Some pretty good reporting had the final deal as RJ + Quick + 3 unprotected

** some versions had us refusing Grimes in place of RJ, Obi replacing Quick, but whatever, all reputable sources had that third unprotected as the bone that stuck in the craw..

We sweating RJ, just a few short weeks removed from being named most damaging player in an NBA starting lineup? **

** to his own team

We sweating Brickely lol...?

We sweating the picks?

Fact: No Donovan Mitchell team has every had a 1st rounder higher than...21, something that doesn't look likely to change this year.

What are we sweating?

[kiidcarter8]

And it has made trade prospects absurd. If you trade Reddish, who are we getting with more skills and potential than he has? And where will they play? In short what are the Knicks looking for?


Obviously looking to use Cam and his salary in a package deal for a top player.  If they just wanted to deal him he would be gone to  LA already for a couple second rounders.

Then that begs the question. What top player do they have in mind?

Lately reported as Lavine.

[chipstern]

Some pretty good reporting had the final deal as RJ + Quick + 3 unprotected

** some versions had us refusing Grimes in place of RJ, Obi replacing Quick, but whatever, all reputable sources had that third unprotected as the bone that stuck in the craw..

We sweating RJ, just a few short weeks removed from being named most damaging player in an NBA starting lineup? **

** to his own team

We sweating Brickely lol...?

We sweating the picks?

Fact: No Donovan Mitchell team has every had a 1st rounder higher than...21, something that doesn't look likely to change this year.

What are we sweating?

Your contempt for RJ is well documented.

Three unprotected #1 picks?

Sounds like Ainge.

Love DM, but two unprotected + RJ AND Quickley sounds plenty generous.

I'd be surprised if Ainge wasn't pushing for more players let alone draft picks, based on the Minny and Cavs deals.

I'm content to have turned down Ainge.  And to have erred on the side of caution

[elephant]

6th place bitches!

Fortunately, Thibs got bailed out at the end. His utter inability to manage the final minute continues to amaze.

Meanwhile Mitch is still stumped by the Spur machine. Weird.

[chipstern]

Beavis & Butthead?

Brunson & Randle?

All is not lost.

Spurs gave us fits.

Beavis bailed us out, huh?

[facilitatorn]

A win is a win. Glad we got this one. Brunson is finding a nice gear again.

How would we feel about RJ with the second unit when he gets back? It would add punch to our reserves without disrupting the unit that is off to hot starts.

[chipstern]

A win is a win. Glad we got this one. Brunson is finding a nice gear again.

How would we feel about RJ with the second unit when he gets back? It would add punch to our reserves without disrupting the unit that is off to hot starts.

Thibs has been rotating by pulling RJ early, the inserting him with the second unit, when he sits Julius.

I like the idea of RJ in the Havlichek role [we should be so lucky].

Next three games against Raptors, Bucks and Pacers really tough.

[carlos123]

Some pretty good reporting had the final deal as RJ + Quick + 3 unprotected

** some versions had us refusing Grimes in place of RJ, Obi replacing Quick, but whatever, all reputable sources had that third unprotected as the bone that stuck in the craw..

We sweating RJ, just a few short weeks removed from being named most damaging player in an NBA starting lineup? **

** to his own team

We sweating Brickely lol...?

We sweating the picks?

Fact: No Donovan Mitchell team has every had a 1st rounder higher than...21, something that doesn't look likely to change this year.

What are we sweating?

Hey, doggie 🐶, relax.

Your boy Donovan only scored 20 today 😁

[facilitatorn]

Just caught the Raptors run to force overtime. Yikes.

[elephant]

A win is a win. Glad we got this one. Brunson is finding a nice gear again.

Brunson is great.

After all this time, to finally get a point guard like this?

Our best addition in years. He's not a superstar, but if anyone leads us to the promised land, it might just be him.

[facilitatorn]

Brunson more than holds up his end and he can be part of some very good D. Props all round for that.

I have four starters I am happy with and would not seek to displace and four other rotation guys that I am happy with, warts and all.

The first batch is Mitch, Jules, Grimes, and Brunson. The second batch is RJ, Quickley, Deuce, and Jericho.

I am more or less indifferent toward everyone else on the roster.

Robinson
               Sims
Randle
               Barrett
Grimes
               McBride
Quickley

Brunson

The fact that we manage to cobble another body out of Rose, Fournier, and Hartenstein does not preclude their packaging for some to provide more meaningful individual help.

I am not opposed to muddling through as things are as there are numerous big wings in the upcoming draft. Two swings in the mid to late first round could go a long way toward filling out this roster.

[chipstern]

Believe you are selling Hartenstein WAY short.

PS: I am all in on the notion of RJ as a sixth man with the second unit and expanding rotation to 10

Robinson, Randle, Grimes, IQ, Brunson

Sims/Hartenstein/Toppin, RJ,
Fournier/Reddish, McBride/Rose

Obviously, RJ & Grimes are interchangeable on first/second units and IQ taking minutes at PG and OffGuard due to his improved efficiency and defense.

Having those two mid first round #1 picks could surely yield some 3&D forwards with wingspan along the lines of Sochan and  Dotson.

Also, is Jokubaitis still in our plans for 2022-23?  Is Keels progressing in the G League?