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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7740 on: October 11, 2019, 01:47:34 PM »

Dennis Smith Jr. (back) is doubtful to play in Friday's preseason game against the Wizards.

DSJ was again limited at Thursday's practice, so we'd be shocked to see him take the floor tomorrow night. All this time off is hurting him in his pursuit of the starting PG gig, which he appears to be ceding to Elfrid Payton. Smith Jr. has disappointed us plenty of times in the past, and him being in danger of losing his starter gig to Payton is telling.



DSJ out.  Knox, Ellington and Dotson out as well

PORTIS will play.  May see Kadeem Allen.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7741 on: October 11, 2019, 07:51:01 PM »

Wiz are woeful, but good for the team to build some confidence.

Like the energy, ball movement and confidence.

RJ another strong start
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7742 on: October 11, 2019, 07:51:17 PM »

Gotta work on the J though
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7743 on: October 11, 2019, 09:00:00 PM »

Well....

bad info on Ellington, who is in fact getting minutes tonight

Solid bench guy
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7744 on: October 11, 2019, 11:31:01 PM »

When they said bring back the 90’s I didn’t think they’d start with the offense.

We might have really missed Kevin Knox tonight. That or the Wiz are just that much better without Hachimura.
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« Reply #7745 on: October 12, 2019, 09:25:54 AM »

Well, that was bizarre. 

For most of the first quarter the Knicks looked like an energized and coherent playoff contender on both sides of the ball. 

Then, just for spite, to deflate the spirits of two of my recently recruited positive pussies, they had an acid flash back to this past spring. 



What exactly is it in the Knicks DNA, that no matter the coach or the personnel, that their opponents simply seem to rain threes on them like the Soviets unloading a barrage of Katyusha rockets on the Wehrmacht at the Gates Of Berlin, circa April, 1945. 

Things seemed to deflate when Frank came on in the second quarter.  Then, oddly, they made a late run when Frank came on in the fourth. 

Wiz dared Peyton to score, and he wilted at the challenge.  Dennis Smith will most def get an opportunity to make a case for his ability to rudder the offense, and to create his own.  Elfird, Dennis, Frank?  How they are deployed will probably be transactional, as per match-ups, hot hands, defensive assignments.  Will take a while to sort out. 

Mitchell reverted to his rookie form, with lots of goofy fouls. 

Morris was effective throughout, while our other bigs, Gibson, Portis and Randle, were up and down. 

RJ a hot start, going to the rack, then a clang fest, then a late couplet of sweet looking three.  Go figure.  And FTs again a concern.  Oh, and Beal seemed highly motivated against him and whomever the Knicks tossed his way.  Impressive performer.  [PS: Time for BoD to mock me for opposing proposed fantasy trades for BB, as if the Wiz would EVER consider moving him to a division rival, let alone THIS DIVISION RIVAL.  Anyway Bo, point taken.]

Trier had some moments, and looked to create opportunities for his team mates, as well as hoist more threes.  However, like Taj and his mates, an offensive foul fest. 

Garden fans on an emotional roller coaster, given how dynamic we looked early on, and both the depth of despair which shortly thereafter ensued.  Was impressed by how motivated the Wiz were, and who good their stretch bigs Wagner and Bertrans [sic?] looked. 

When the Knicks' lack of familiarity with each other became terminal on offense, as Breen and Clyde pointed out, seemed to effect their D. 

Hawks next on Wednesday.  Like the Wiz and ourselves, a youngish team on the re-make. 

We shall see. 

PS: Looking forward to Pharoah's breakdowns of our breakdowns. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7746 on: October 12, 2019, 03:39:41 PM »

At the advice of my lawyer — Rudolph Giuliani — I will not be watching the game, which I had to DVR.
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« Reply #7747 on: October 12, 2019, 04:39:32 PM »

At the advice of my lawyer — Rudolph Giuliani — I will not be watching the game, which I had to DVR.



The first quarter should suffice, like watching a porn film in reverse, beginning with the money shot, and rewinding to some episodes of foreplay gone terribly awry. 

PS: My understanding that as a puppy, Rudy had a tryout with the Washington Generals, not as a ballplayer mind you, but to be deployed as sideshow clown during half time festivities--hit the target and he falls into a pool of water. 
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Ooops...Pre-Season Roundup
« Reply #7748 on: October 12, 2019, 05:24:17 PM »

Anthony Davis is surely a Top 10 NBA player.  A remarkable physical specimen and talent. 

He is only 26, and over the course of 34.6 minutes a game, he has averaged 23.7 ppg on .517% shooting, with a .795 FT%, with career averages of 10.5 boards, 2.1 assists, 1.4 steals and 2.4 blocks.  YIKES. 

The only thing that has ever held him back is a proclivity for injuries. 

In 2016-17 and 2017-18, he topped out at 75 games, and averaged 28 points a game. 

Last season, before shutting down, he only logged 56 games. 

His first four seasons: 64, 67, 68, 61.

I've always been a huge fan, and as he has NOT to my knowledge re-upped with the Lakers, he could be a free agent next summer, and his agent has made slurping sounds about the Knicks. 

I'm not buying into that mirage, but still...

Meanwhile, the Mavs' putative all-star PF Kristaps PORZINGIS, faced off against the Bucks all-world PF Giannis ANTETOKOUNMPO. 

WARNING: Not hating, just reporting.

KP clocked in with 11-5-3.

The Greek Freak was 34-11-4. 

KP was 2-9 from trey. 

The Greek Freak was 3-4. 

If Giannis, like Simmons and Ball, players long known for highly suspect jump shots, starts hitting from trey with consistency, well, human sacrifice might be the only viable response, a chicken at the very least, from NBA opponents. 

Look for Milwaukee vs Philly in the NBA finals, least ways, to be in on the final scrum. 

Meanwhile, the Mavs Donic tallied 27-7-2, with 10-11 FTs and 5-8 from trey. 

The Pelicans.  Zion ain't Lyin'

But Nickeil Alexander-Walker, a 6'5" combo guard from, Virginia Tech, was 7-9 from the field versus the Jazz: 4-5 from trey, 4-4 FTs, with 4 assists and 2 boards in SIXTEEN MINUTES.  Yikes.    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, the up and coming combo guard traded to OKC in the Paul George trade, is his cousin. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7749 on: October 12, 2019, 06:01:55 PM »

Fiz's downfall will be that he wants to play everybody.  He feels he can help all their careers - and that this is his job

Wrong!!!
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« Reply #7750 on: October 12, 2019, 07:21:19 PM »

Fiz's downfall will be that he wants to play everybody.  He feels he can help all their careers - and that this is his job

Wrong!!!

Mmmmmmm, a dispiriting three quarters of retrograde for sure...

But I don't think Fizz and the coaching staff have sorted things out yet. 

Last year MIGHT HAVE BEEN about looking out for players' with their careers (Mudiay springs to mind), and trying to ascertain which Pups were keepers. 

But this year? 

Goals are decidedly different. 

I presume your comment is a thinly veiled Snark Bark aimed in the relative direction of Frank "Long Arms" Ntilikina, and a thumbs up for your previously stated conclusion that Elfrid should be getting 30 minutes a night and Dennis 18 off the bench. 

Your lack of any positive support for and objections to French Frank moving forward, have been duly noted. 

Only one game, but worth noting that Peyton was a -24 in 26 minutes, Frank a +0 in 19. 

Likewise, Ellington a -8 in 22 minutes, Trier a +1 in 17. 

In Monday's game?

Elfrid a -11 in 25 minutes, Ntilikina a +16 in 23 minutes. 

So?

So WHAT. 

But again, I don't see Fizz after two pre-season games trying to "play everyone" rather to see what he's got, and which combinations will give him the best chance to win. 

Clearly there is a mandate to develop youth. 

But there is also a mandate TO WIN.  Forward progress. 

ROTATION PROJECTIONS
1-5
6-10
11-13
14-15

Robinson-Randle-Morris-RJ-?????

Portis-Gibson-Knox-?????-?????

????? = Ellington/Trier

????? = Peyton-Smith-Nitlikina

??? = Dotson-Bullock-???

?? = Brazdeikis-?
 
Pre-season is an opportunity to give everyone on the 15 man roster some daylight, whereas 11-15 might very well be nailed to the pine during the regular season, injuries notwithstanding. 

So no, I don't think Fizz is inclined to play everybody, but trying to arrive at a functional 10 man rotation, while keeping 11-13 engaged. 

Are you more inclined towards an 8 man rotation?

Not sure that is feasible given the kind of pace and pressing D which Fizz ostensibly wants to deploy. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7751 on: October 12, 2019, 08:07:29 PM »

No

Not that at all

Frank's option wont be picked up - and he goes on the infamous trade heap this forum already has created

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7752 on: October 12, 2019, 08:11:53 PM »

I dont think Robinson needs to start
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« Reply #7753 on: October 12, 2019, 08:26:47 PM »

No, Robinson does NOT need to start. 

Might be better on a second unit with Gibson and Knox up front. 

Knicks not picking up Ntilikina? 

Mmmmmm....you a betting man? 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7754 on: October 12, 2019, 08:30:09 PM »

Robinson-Randle-Morris-RJ-?????

Portis-Gibson-Knox-?????-?????

????? = Ellington/Trier

????? = Peyton-Smith-Nitlikina

??? = Dotson-Bullock-???

?? = Brazdeikis-?




Well done

Trier and Frank are ELEVEN and TWELVE, not 9 and 10
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