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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[Kam]

2 more years of a not cheap contract.  Randle something of an anachronism. 

I thought just next season is guaranteed.  Team option on year3. No?

[Kam]

Lots of teams have good shooting backcourts now and weak frontcourts.  Randle would be welcome in Phoenix, Atlanta, Golden State, Washington, Sacramento, etc...and those are just the bad teams.  There will be playoff teams who have injuries.


The Bulls wanted Randle in the offseason according to Woj.

[bodiddley]

Lots of teams have good shooting backcourts now and weak frontcourts.  Randle would be welcome in Phoenix, Atlanta, Golden State, Washington, Sacramento, etc...and those are just the bad teams.  There will be playoff teams who have injuries.

GS has Paschall and Omari Spellman who are both bull type PF's.
Pasch is just 6'6" which probably explains him falling to the 2nd round.
Putting up numbers similar to Randle in his rook season (fewer assists and boards but much better shooting %'s)
Cardinal Spellman is a 6'8" bruiser who has shot 35% on 3's in his two years.  So they don't need/want Randle.
GS also has Looney, WCS and Dray Green.


PHX has Ayton and Baynes as inside scorers.
Saric and FranktheTank as stretch 4's
They could use a Defensive PF.  ie not Randle.

PHX has Rich Holmes and Bagley.  I like both better than Randle.
Dedmon Walking and Giles Goatboy.

ATL needs a lot, but is pretty set at PG (Trae) and PF (Collins).

As for WASh, Rui is their PF of the future.  And they have Bertans.
They don't need another weak defending PF.  They don't need another PF with all the holes they have.  While Thomas Bryant and Mahinmi are bullish inside guys.

I don't think you put much thought into this . . .

[kiidcarter8]

Lots of teams have good shooting backcourts now and weak frontcourts.  Randle would be welcome in Phoenix, Atlanta, Golden State, Washington, Sacramento, etc...and those are just the bad teams.  There will be playoff teams who have injuries.


The Bulls wanted Randle in the offseason according to Woj.

Good thought

A lot of youth in Chicago - and they want to win soon.  Good landing spot if we were to deal Randle.

Maybe Bo can put together a package for us on that

[kiidcarter8]

2 more years of a not cheap contract.  Randle something of an anachronism. 

I thought just next season is guaranteed.  Team option on year3. No?

Yes.  Year 3 can be bought out for 4 mil of the 19.

So a team that deals for Randle is on the hook for 22.9 mil past this year.  This year would at least even out, given the players sent the other way.

If it is the Bulls I'd think part of what is coming back would be signed past 2019-20

[Kam]

Lots of teams have good shooting backcourts now and weak frontcourts.  Randle would be welcome in Phoenix, Atlanta, Golden State, Washington, Sacramento, etc...and those are just the bad teams.  There will be playoff teams who have injuries.

GS has Paschall and Omari Spellman who are both bull type PF's.
Pasch is just 6'6" which probably explains him falling to the 2nd round.
Putting up numbers similar to Randle in his rook season (fewer assists and boards but much better shooting %'s)
Cardinal Spellman is a 6'8" bruiser who has shot 35% on 3's in his two years.  So they don't need/want Randle.
GS also has Looney, WCS and Dray Green.


PHX has Ayton and Baynes as inside scorers.
Saric and FranktheTank as stretch 4's
They could use a Defensive PF.  ie not Randle.

PHX has Rich Holmes and Bagley.  I like both better than Randle.
Dedmon Walking and Giles Goatboy.

ATL needs a lot, but is pretty set at PG (Trae) and PF (Collins).

As for WASh, Rui is their PF of the future.  And they have Bertans.
They don't need another weak defending PF.  They don't need another PF with all the holes they have.  While Thomas Bryant and Mahinmi are bullish inside guys.

I don't think you put much thought into this . . .

Spellman is a fringe NBA player.   Paschall is a tweener.   Otherwise you're touting rookies and 2nd year guys.  Baynes and Bertans over Randle? Bryant and Mahinmi? Come on.

How about the Bulls send us Thad Young and change for Randle.

[bodiddley]

Spellman is a fringe NBA player.   Paschall is a tweener.   Otherwise you're touting rookies and 2nd year guys.  Baynes and Bertans over Randle? Bryant and Mahinmi? Come on.

How about the Bulls send us Thad Young and change for Randle.

Baynes is a backup C.  Bertans a backup PF.
Presumably a team brings in Randle and his $15M to start, not come off the bench.

I'm touting rooks and 2nd year guys because they are good and their teams are not, so they have time to develop these guys.  Why bring in some semi-expensive flawed guy about to shuffled on to his 4th team in 6th year?  One stop away from the journeyman label ...

Randle is a PF. He has no other position.
If your starting C is an inside guy than Randle mucks up spacing.
If you have a quality starting PF, you don't trade for Randle.

Simply:

GS:  PF: Dray/Paschall  C: Looney/WCS. 
4 solid Bigs.  They don't need/want Randle. 
Spellman merely 5th Big.  With Pasch and Spellman they already have two bruisers.  They could use a real C maybe.

PHX:  Ayton/Saric provides spacing.  Baynes and Tank another inside outside combo.  Randle doesn't work next to Ayton (or Baynes).

[bodiddley]

Randle a tough guy to fit on teams in today's NBA. 
The major trends these days are everybody shoot's 3's to create spacing (and score 3 points) and having switchable defenders to guard all that spacing. 

So teams are looking for stretch 4's who can open the court, allowing driving lanes and letting an inside C thrive.  Or alternatively they want their inside Bigs to rim protect. 

Randle doesn't defend, doesn't shoot 3's, and isn't a switchable fellow.  Being a boarding inside-scoring PF is anachronistic if that's all you do.

[bodiddley]

CHitown?

Looks like it'd have to be Thad -- the wrong side of 30 and no outside shot.
He can guard PnR's and his 58% FT will fit right in.

Or if Bulls want to ditch OP III's big money.

Both seem like blah moves to me.

What the hell happened to Markk's shot?
Did he have a shoulder injury or something.
He's started December well.  But his shooting #'s are low this year.

[chipstern]

Born: June 21, 1988 (age 31 years), New Orleans, LA

Height: 6′ 8″

Current team: Chicago Bulls (#21 / Small forward, Power forward)

And this advances our culture moving forward how, exactly? 

[bodiddley]

Okay:

Randle & Knox & Portis = Markkanen & Otto Porter

Portis just in there as an ending deal.
Allowing Bulls to get out from under Op3'S $28M a year early.

Bulls get scoring.
Knix get shooting.

CHI would have to be worried about Markk's shooting or OP3's health.
And not concerned about poor D.

interesting trade.  I'd like to get Markk.

[Kam]

Born: June 21, 1988 (age 31 years), New Orleans, LA

Height: 6′ 8″

Current team: Chicago Bulls (#21 / Small forward, Power forward)

And this advances our culture moving forward how, exactly?

Moving Randle is addition by subtraction. Who we get back is only somewhat relevant.

[lesterluv]

Let's be fair and see how he responds to coaching. He apparently hadn't had any thus far this season.

[FWK00]

Born: June 21, 1988 (age 31 years), New Orleans, LA

Height: 6′ 8″

Current team: Chicago Bulls (#21 / Small forward, Power forward)

And this advances our culture moving forward how, exactly?

Moving Randle is addition by subtraction. Who we get back is only somewhat relevant.

I more or less agree with this.  Its not that Randle is a bad player per se, its that he creates a roster bottleneck - the coach has to do something with him.  That's more work than managing the other four.

[FWK00]

Let's be fair and see how he responds to coaching. He apparently hadn't had any thus far this season.

He's got four games to learn the game of basketball.  I don't think he's a fast learner.