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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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bodiddley

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9390 on: December 13, 2019, 05:05:59 PM »

Morris has more value to a playoff team than to us.
Sell High.
Beware a contract year phenom.
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« Reply #9391 on: December 13, 2019, 05:53:09 PM »

Morris has more value to a playoff team than to us.
Sell High.
Beware a contract year phenom.

And get back what exactly? 

A late first rounder? 

Be still my heart. 

Of a piece with rearrange the fucking furniture trades I've seen floated by such otherwise sentient observers such as Facil which suggest it would make sense to take on the contract of 31-going-on 32 Thaddeus Young, whose 12-13-14 million dollar cap hit would remain on our books through 2022. 

Oh, and as for the beware contract year phenoms? 

Uh huh. 

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/morrima03.html

Apparently his phenomenon stage has been on an upward ascent since 2015-2016. 

Couldn't be that he is actually getting better and coming into his own when presented with the opportunity to be a first option.

"No, a contract year phenom and a good player on a bad team."

Uh huh. 

A .489% from trey [66-135] and and .854% from the FT [88-103] line. 

Yeah, I could see where he doesn't fit. 

Not to mention the message it sends to other free agents about your longevity in NYC. 

Sigh

Imagine what this stats might look like if Elfrid had been healthy and at the rudder these six weeks. 
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« Reply #9392 on: December 13, 2019, 06:10:23 PM »

So you're going to re-sign him into his 30's to go with our not-ready-yet yute?


Knicks should be plenty ready next year in time for the new coach's arrival.

Morris would be a good keep - but he will cost.

Maybe Biz has an alternative in mind, someone younger - or wants Knox to be a starter

Remember though, Bizness - our goal - the TEAM'a goal - is to contend for the playoffs, not grow our "yute".
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« Reply #9393 on: December 13, 2019, 06:18:21 PM »

Miller has said he likes the starts Frank has been getting the team off to.


heh

Well, we WERE leading 8-3 when he left vs Warriors.

But leaving with the contest with foul trouble

a)  3 minutes into the game
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b)  2 minutes into the second quarter

I would not call impressive

Prior to that - I cited the slow starts half one and two the prior game - wont go further than that -

Mitchell was in Frank's year, right?  If Dolan is touting - stating he wanted Mitchell I cant see him also sending word from above that Frank has to be the starter

This is all you, MILLER. On with it now.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9394 on: December 13, 2019, 06:35:26 PM »

I dont know, Chip - I dont really mind the contract year argument.  Morris DID ascend in both his contract years to date - 3 if you include this one.

I am with you - dont sell cheap on Marcus.  But I do like the 2020 draft.  Adding a pick would be wise.

So, OFFER the extension prior to the deadline rather than re-signing Morris in the summer.  If he says no, deal away.
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« Reply #9395 on: December 13, 2019, 06:38:23 PM »

I also think Morris likely expects to be traded.  Any thought that it would be an insult - a deterrent for any future signings - is silly.
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« Reply #9396 on: December 13, 2019, 06:56:41 PM »

Since Frank's "breakout" 14 point game he has averaged - in 5 games - 15 minutes and 1.4 field goals (7- 21) per outing.  8 assists, 9 turnovers, 1 steal, 0 blocks

Still not actually guarding point guards.  Not putting a defensive stamp on games at all, despite showing good 1 v 1 skill when there is no screen available to his man.  Getting beat 1 v 1 more often than you would like.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9397 on: December 13, 2019, 07:25:40 PM »

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Of a piece with rearrange the fucking furniture trades I've seen floated by such otherwise sentient observers such as Facil which suggest it would make sense to take on the contract of 31-going-on 32 Thaddeus Young, whose 12-13-14 million dollar cap hit would remain on our books through 2022. 

Says the guy making the case to resign the 31 year old Morris for what exactly? More than 14 mil is for damn sure.

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« Reply #9398 on: December 13, 2019, 07:54:46 PM »

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Of a piece with rearrange the fucking furniture trades I've seen floated by such otherwise sentient observers such as Facil which suggest it would make sense to take on the contract of 31-going-on 32 Thaddeus Young, whose 12-13-14 million dollar cap hit would remain on our books through 2022. 

Says the guy making the case to resign the 31 year old Morris for what exactly? More than 14 mil is for damn sure.

Morris just turned 30.
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« Reply #9399 on: December 13, 2019, 08:29:31 PM »

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Of a piece with rearrange the fucking furniture trades I've seen floated by such otherwise sentient observers such as Facil which suggest it would make sense to take on the contract of 31-going-on 32 Thaddeus Young, whose 12-13-14 million dollar cap hit would remain on our books through 2022. 

Says the guy making the case to resign the 31 year old Morris for what exactly? More than 14 mil is for damn sure.

Morris just turned 30.

But he's an old soul.
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« Reply #9400 on: December 13, 2019, 08:31:34 PM »

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Of a piece with rearrange the fucking furniture trades I've seen floated by such otherwise sentient observers such as Facil which suggest it would make sense to take on the contract of 31-going-on 32 Thaddeus Young, whose 12-13-14 million dollar cap hit would remain on our books through 2022. 

Says the guy making the case to resign the 31 year old Morris for what exactly? More than 14 mil is for damn sure.

Morris just turned 30.

And is a tad better than T Young
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9401 on: December 13, 2019, 09:24:39 PM »

 MILLS and PERRY are Jokes..
We  more than tripled Perry's salary from what he was making with the KINGS, and gave him a role he never had.

So not only does MILLS over pay every Bull shit role player he signs, he does the same with everyone one on the staff..

This guy has done nothing right in his entire tenure.  Time to go.
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« Reply #9402 on: December 13, 2019, 09:29:20 PM »

Lakers lining up LeBron, Davis, Howard, Green, Caldwell Pope vs Heat.  Killing em with size
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #9403 on: December 13, 2019, 10:14:58 PM »

CLANK!

Nice start, Frank.
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« Reply #9404 on: December 13, 2019, 10:45:03 PM »

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