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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bankshot1]

How exactly did the Celtics let Baynes walk?  Color me baffled.

Fucking NBA cap rules.

Celts loved him he loved Celts, and he was a presence in the paint, but they were short cap space to make moves  (Kemba) so he got shipped to the Suns and they got back a #1.

 

[kiidcarter8]

Devin Booker has been a monster for a while. 

WOW. 

How exactly did the Celtics let Baynes walk?  Color me baffled. 

Wasn't one of our reigning handicappers pissing on Oubre as overrated and not worht a better contract and touting someone named Sadoransky [sic?] instead? 

Oubre really cooked our goose.  Pretty impressive wing.  RJ might take notice. 

MM and Portis kept us in the game.  Randle only 5-17, and pretty slipshod shooting in general: 10-37 from trey and 20-30 from the charity stripe, which really bit us in the ass. 

Did I neglect to kvell enough about Devin Booker?  Damn.  A 90% FT shooter, shoots a steady 50% from the field, doesn't force up every damn shot from three, and is good for 6-7 assists a game. 

We should be so lucky. 

Oh well...Clippers on Sunday should be scarier still.

Yeah - could have had Booker in the KP draft

Character counts

[kiidcarter8]

Baynes was actually traded WITH a first rounder for next year's MIL first. 

[kiidcarter8]

Wonder if we could swing some sort of Morris for Montrezl deal,  The idea being he'll be pricey as an RFA.  NY would love Montrezl throwing himself and others around.


I think I will take the first rounder

[bodiddley]

With Montrezl making just $6M, we'd need LAC to add in MoHark.
I'd do a deal of Randle & Taj for Montrezl, Mo Hark & Zubac.

Er, Clips have been starting MoHark at PF (and sometimes PatPat).  So Randle would be an upgrade.  But I guess I stick them starting Taj at C.

It's hard to get the numbers to work, cause you need Montrezl and MoHark to match Randle (or Morris') salary.  Knix tossing in other players makes more Clip salary needed.  They could throw in Mcgruder's $4.5M and we could give them a backup PG they need.   But do they need one of ours.

Anyway, we could make Montrezl an RFA offer over the Summer.  Can't have enough PF's  . . .

And then we'd need to pay Montrezl.  But he'd be a lot more fun than Randle.

[chipstern]

How exactly did the Celtics let Baynes walk?  Color me baffled.

Fucking NBA cap rules.

Celts loved him he loved Celts, and he was a presence in the paint, but they were short cap space to make moves  (Kemba) so he got shipped to the Suns and they got back a #1.

Huh, well, that's not too damn painful. 

A protected #1 I would presume, if not someone else's #1 that Phoenix happened to have in the larder. 

[chipstern]

With Montrezl making just $6M, we'd need LAC to add in MoHark.
I'd do a deal of Randle & Taj for Montrezl, Mo Hark & Zubac.

Er, Clips have been starting MoHark at PF (and sometimes PatPat).  So Randle would be an upgrade.  But I guess I stick them starting Taj at C.

It's hard to get the numbers to work, cause you need Montrezl and MoHark to match Randle (or Morris') salary.  Knix tossing in other players makes more Clip salary needed.  They could throw in Mcgruder's $4.5M and we could give them a backup PG they need.   But do they need one of ours.

Anyway, we could make Montrezl an RFA offer over the Summer.  Can't have enough PF's  . . .

And then we'd need to pay Montrezl.  But he'd be a lot more fun than Randle.

No, your "criticism" of Julius Randle has been quite muted.

Cough. 

[bankshot1]

How exactly did the Celtics let Baynes walk?  Color me baffled.

Fucking NBA cap rules.

Celts loved him he loved Celts, and he was a presence in the paint, but they were short cap space to make moves  (Kemba) so he got shipped to the Suns and they got back a #1.

Huh, well, that's not too damn painful. 

A protected #1 I would presume, if not someone else's #1 that Phoenix happened to have in the larder.

Yup-it was a protected (1-8 I think) Bucks '20 #1 that will probably be 30-32.

Celts were swimming in 1s last year (they had potentially 4-Sac, Memphis, Clippers, and their own) so with the Baynes trade they got cap space to sign Kemba and shifted a 1 into the next year.  So this year they have Memphis (protected 1-6) their own and the Bucks. It looks like Memphis might cash around 10. I hope it rolls over into '21.

[kiidcarter8]

Basically gave up Baynes for nothing.

Summing up Boston's use of draft picks

Had the 20 and 22 for 2019

Dealt the 20 - losing out on Tybulle (20th to Philly) and Clarke (21 to Memphis) - 2 guys playing good ball their rookie years

Picked Grant Williams at 22

With the 24 they received in the Tybulle deal Celts swapped again - in the Baynes trade  -  netting the space and the late 1 in 2020

Also coming to Celts in the deal of the #20 was the #33 which they used on Carsen Edwards

Both Edwards and Williams have played this year for Celts.

Of course those juicy picks from the Tatum deal arent so juicy after all,,,,hasnt lined up for Ainge as he has liked.  And jury is out on if Tatum is title pedigree

[bodiddley]

I'm assuming Randle is attractive enough to LAC that they give up some decent assets for him.

But really it doesn't work well without adding a 3rd team.

I've just added LAC as another team that needs a starting PF (along with POR and UTA).  And Knix have a PF surplus.

[bankshot1]

kid's obssession is unabated.

The Baynes trade created cap space to sign a max player-Kemba.

Baynes was the cost of doing business.

And the Tatum trade was a great trade pure and simple.

The cash-in was a lottery pick.

and was whether it was the Lakers or the Kings pick.

But Ainge had little control of the Lakers falling just outside the protection in '18, or the Kings playing better than expected and the Celts getting into the lottery in '19.

It was a great trade.

And only a fool, too afraid to admit they were wrong, would continue to argue your baseless position.

Bigger picture Ainge took an aging team headed for mediocrity and got them to the be included in the convo for NBA contenders.

that you do not understand this, or too cowed to admit your ignorance, is not surprising.

I would remind you again you're been on the clock, and now for far longer than Fultz has ever taken the NBA court, but its increasingly clear you are too feeble to answer the question posed.


LMAO

[kiidcarter8]

But really it doesn't work well without adding a 3rd team.


Doesnt work AT ALL giving up Zubac

[kiidcarter8]

kid's obssession is unabated.


Not sure what you think I am obsessed with

I touted your guy Tatum throughout his one Duke season - and I think he is a fine pro

That you overrated the "haul" Ainge (another fave of mine) received is not my problem.

As with Trump forum, your fault is in the extremity of your viewpoint.

As you were...

[kiidcarter8]

I'm assuming Randle is attractive enough to LAC that they give up some decent assets for him.

But really it doesn't work well without adding a 3rd team.

I've just added LAC as another team that needs a starting PF (along with POR and UTA).  And Knix have a PF surplus.

I think we really only have two power forwards - and their defense is unappealing.

Portis is who they might look at

[facilitatorn]

kid's obssession is unabated.


Not sure what you think I am obsessed with

I touted your guy Tatum throughout his one Duke season - and I think he is a fine pro

That you overrated the "haul" Ainge (another fave of mine) received is not my problem.

As with Trump forum, your fault is in the extremity of your viewpoint.

As you were...

As in all forums, your ass and your mouth are indistinguishable. Pip pip. Cheerio.