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kiidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7560 on: September 06, 2019, 05:14:52 PM »

I like the idea of Frank, RJ, and Trier as a 3 guard alignment. You could give them lots of space by running them with Morris and Portis, a lineup that rebounds much better than it protects the rim.

I donít expect anyone but Randle to see 30 minutes a game this season. Morris could do it, but there is too much talent that need time at SF in Knox, Iggy, and Barrett.

My major hope and concern is whether or not we can field a decent defensive squad throughout the season.

OMG

To what end?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7561 on: September 06, 2019, 07:13:41 PM »

Defensive size, athleticism, and versatility. It lets Frank play the supporting role to two guys happy to finish. It puts Trierís Energy, Physicality and Stroke to challenge opposing points, whoíll draw him as a matchup with Frank gobbling steals and RJ supporting boards. Any of the three can set up an action. Any of the three are more dangerous on attack on the move off the ball. The defensive help plays from Frank and Trier alone give you the luxury of putting floor spreaders to help offensive spacing.

If Frank and/or RJ can shoot steadily, you can put Mitch and Randle in to cause problems on another order of magnitude.

DSJ, Payton, and Dotson will have something to say about how much those three play.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7562 on: September 06, 2019, 09:56:17 PM »

Which team's 1/2/3 can they compete with?
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« Reply #7563 on: September 06, 2019, 09:57:36 PM »

Oh, wait - I forgot.  Doesn't matter since we aren't trying to win

Heh
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7564 on: September 08, 2019, 01:04:04 AM »

Catching a France-Lithuania replay.
To speak Francly, Nkilitina's offense is offensive.
They have him bring the ball upcourt, stop beyond the 3-point line and make the first safe easy pass.  The one time there was a large seam and he drove, he stopped short of the help defender, looked around, and made a decrepit bounce pass back out that was easily stolen.  It was a very deliberate pass and looked like Franc put a little backspin on it that caused it to be extra-slow.  Weird.

Midway through 1Q, Franc tried an elbow 3 that was offline wide right.  A couple minutes later, Franc shot from the FT line and somehow missed the rim, got his own awkward rebound and passed back out.
Really looked remedial on O.  He got an assist hitting a cutting Gobert on a fast break.

Franc's D looked quite good.  As soon as France doesn't have the ball, Franc becomes engaged, seeks out his man, takes angles, looks like he's played hoops before.  Had one nice early rotation to get in front of a driving Lithuanian Big.  Guy scored, but Franc was in perfect position.  Got called for a foul shadowing a guy over a screen, but had been attached to that guy for 6+ secs. 

Franc was a total zero on O and looked real active involved on D.
That was an 8 min stretch.  Clearly Franc is out there on Team France for his D.  Their backup PG is very shrimpy.

Edit:  Franc's 3Q stint.
Played stout D.  Twice posted up by F's.  Kuzminskas got called for an O-foul for hooking Ffranc (fairly minor, but Franc stayed in position).    And Franc did another good post D but got called for a foul for getting his arm in too much.  Solid D.

On O, Franc continually picked up his dribble well beyond his range.  Made grade-school basic telegraphed passes.  And once drove in, ripped off a spin move and couldn't make the shot.  He just looks so mechanical of offense -- slow, deliberate, thinking.  Even on simple passes, he seems to have a slight hitch as though making sure the pass is safe.  Weird.  It looks more mental than physical.  His body language and rhythm changes once he's on D.  On O he's tentative and slow-motion.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7565 on: September 09, 2019, 02:37:48 AM »



Cargo ship overturned off Georgia.
More than 2 football fields long.  it has a basketball court on deck (you can see in the photo.
When it went fully upside down, it oddly looks like a whale:

And reportedly it was much more difficult to play hoops ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7566 on: September 09, 2019, 08:25:19 AM »

RE: Ntilikina

Lets face it - our "braintrust" was misled by one or two performances in a U18 tournament.

Sick.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7567 on: September 09, 2019, 10:23:18 AM »

Just hasn't developed as expected.
His defense is fine.
Needs a good deal of work and more confidence on O.
Not easy predicting how 18 and 19 year olds will develop.
I think Barrett has a lot of holes in his game and much to work on.

Between Franc and Knox and Barrett Knix have chosen to go awfully young/raw/upside  in recent drafts.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7568 on: September 10, 2019, 02:48:46 PM »

I think itís safe to say that there is an understanding we havenít been and still arenít ready for contention. Getting guys to develop together and build chemistry has been the move, but it only pays off if the organization can manage their continued growth.

Perry helped by bringing in Taj, Morris, Bullock, and Ellington. These guys are successful because they are technical rather than that they are physical outliers for their positions. We also brought our most proven player development guy up from Westchester to the main team.

Weíre still at a point where we need the youth to succeed, but we are no longer dependent on a single kid to save the franchise.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7569 on: September 10, 2019, 10:48:03 PM »

Just hasn't developed as expected.
His defense is fine.
Needs a good deal of work and more confidence on O.
Not easy predicting how 18 and 19 year olds will develop.
I think Barrett has a lot of holes in his game and much to work on.

Between Franc and Knox and Barrett Knix have chosen to go awfully young/raw/upside  in recent drafts.

I dont think he is a defensive ONE.

Which I guess is OK.

Mills cooked him good the other day.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7570 on: September 10, 2019, 10:49:21 PM »

The analyst in the AUS vs FRA game said, "Knicks expect big things from (Frank) this year."

Really?
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« Reply #7571 on: September 10, 2019, 10:50:21 PM »

Just hasn't developed as expected.
His defense is fine.
Needs a good deal of work and more confidence on O.
Not easy predicting how 18 and 19 year olds will develop.
I think Barrett has a lot of holes in his game and much to work on.

Between Franc and Knox and Barrett Knix have chosen to go awfully young/raw/upside  in recent drafts.

ONE of the three was an elite pick.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7572 on: September 11, 2019, 02:29:42 AM »

According to a poll of the incoming rooks, picking 3rd we drafted the 3rd best Dukie ...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7573 on: September 11, 2019, 08:24:08 AM »

Could be..........
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7574 on: September 11, 2019, 09:36:04 AM »

SPOILER ALERT






Credit Frank.

Not only was Ntilikina on the court in the 4th quarter.. He sizzled.  7 pints in 4th on jumpers.

Helped bottle up Mitchell, who had scored 14 in the 3rd quarter - and Kemba, who sadly struggled all night.

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